• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 22:56
CEST 04:56
KST 11:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S RO12 Preview: GuMiho, Bunny, SHIN, ByuN3The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL39Code S RO12 Preview: Cure, Zoun, Solar, Creator4[ASL19] Finals Preview: Daunting Task30[ASL19] Ro4 Recap : The Peak15
Community News
Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2)3Weekly Cups (May 19-25): Hindsight is 20/20?0DreamHack Dallas 2025 - Official Replay Pack8[BSL20] RO20 Group Stage3EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1)71
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation The Memories We Share - Facing the Final(?) GSL Is there a place to provide feedback for maps? Code S RO12 Results + RO8 Groups (2025 Season 2) CN community: Firefly accused of suspicious activities
Tourneys
EWC 2025 Regional Qualifiers (May 28-June 1) WardiTV Mondays RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series DreamHack Dallas 2025 Last Chance Qualifiers for OlimoLeague 2024 Winter
Strategy
[G] Darkgrid Layout Simple Questions Simple Answers [G] PvT Cheese: 13 Gate Proxy Robo
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 476 Charnel House Mutation # 475 Hard Target Mutation # 474 Futile Resistance Mutation # 473 Cold is the Void
Brood War
General
Will foreigners ever be able to challenge Koreans? BW General Discussion BGH auto balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Battle.net is not working Which player typ excels at which race or match up?
Tourneys
[ASL19] Grand Finals [BSL20] RO20 Group Stage [BSL20] RO20 Group D - Sunday 20:00 CET [BSL 2v2] ProLeague Season 3 - Friday 21:00 CET
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Mechabellum Monster Hunter Wilds Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
LiquidLegends to reintegrate into TL.net
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread TL Mafia Plays: Diplomacy TL Mafia: Generative Agents Showdown Survivor II: The Amazon
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread US Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NHL Playoffs 2024 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Cleaning My Mechanical Keyboard How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL.net Ten Commandments
Blogs
Research study on team perfo…
TrAiDoS
I was completely wrong ab…
jameswatts
Need Your Help/Advice
Glider
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Poker
Nebuchad
Info SLEgma_12
SLEgma_12
SECOND COMMING
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 14254 users

Path of Exile - Page 864

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 862 863 864 865 866 1744 Next
Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
OR
post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
Private league ladder (finished): https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/TeamLiquid and friends
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 16:53:17
December 11 2014 16:51 GMT
#17261
If armor is buffed this patch enemies would also benefit and be more resilient to phy dmg now.

And I was pretty much speaking from an EK perspective and if 100% conversion to lightning is possible, most likely with the help of a new unique chernobog equivalent. And yeah curse on hit allows you to apply multiple curses so easily these days.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 16:54 GMT
#17262
Keep in mind that before 1.3 there has been exactly 2 methods in the entire game that allowed a conversion of phys to lightning (Lightning arrow and Lightning Strike). In the past I think it was to balance how OP consistent shock stacks would have been with lightning conversion but now that shock is a reasonable status ailment they can play around with it a bit more.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 11 2014 16:55 GMT
#17263
Yeah back then with max 3 shock stacks 90% more DMG a gem like that would be imbalanced
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 16:56 GMT
#17264
back in the day it was 120%
path of lightning arrow was a hell of a game
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 11 2014 17:00 GMT
#17265
On December 12 2014 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
back in the day it was 120%
path of lightning arrow was a hell of a game


Still my favorite build I've ever played.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 11 2014 17:01 GMT
#17266
Back then even Lightning Strike wasn't unpopular. But I god damn hate that skill. I tried to copy that Flicker Ninja build back then, which mostly used LS. But for me that was too much of a hassle to use.
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
December 11 2014 17:01 GMT
#17267
I just want my electric knives. Hope the new uniques aren't that crappy or all simply LLD nonsense
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 17:19 GMT
#17268
On December 12 2014 02:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
back in the day it was 120%
path of lightning arrow was a hell of a game


Still my favorite build I've ever played.

Lightning arrow is still absurdly satisfying to play (the sounds on it are great etc) but its hard to run bow skills that need lmp AND chain just to have enough AoE potential these days. Toss in WED, PPAD and all of a sudden ur a 5link. Hope u have ur mana solved. And leech solved. etc. Tornado shot only requiring one "aoe" support is too good to pass up, especially when you get like 110% dmg instead of 70% dmg. Although admittedly nothing's AoE can quite match up to LA.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 11 2014 17:28 GMT
#17269
On December 12 2014 02:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 02:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On December 12 2014 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
back in the day it was 120%
path of lightning arrow was a hell of a game


Still my favorite build I've ever played.

Lightning arrow is still absurdly satisfying to play (the sounds on it are great etc) but its hard to run bow skills that need lmp AND chain just to have enough AoE potential these days. Toss in WED, PPAD and all of a sudden ur a 5link. Hope u have ur mana solved. And leech solved. etc. Tornado shot only requiring one "aoe" support is too good to pass up, especially when you get like 110% dmg instead of 70% dmg. Although admittedly nothing's AoE can quite match up to LA.


I like the old animation better.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 11 2014 17:33 GMT
#17270
My plan for the new hardcore league is now dual shockwave totems with the phys to lightning gem, lots of crit, pcoc ice spear flyin around, running hatred and herald of ice
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 17:40:55
December 11 2014 17:39 GMT
#17271
sounds good except for herald of ice. it does nothing for you, does it? the totems won't get more dmg since it's not an aura and your ice spear doesn't do dmg. or am I missing something?

also not sure how conversion works... would the totems get any cold dmg from hatred if they converse 100% phys to lightning?
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 17:43:02
December 11 2014 17:42 GMT
#17272
On December 12 2014 02:39 HolydaKing wrote:
also not sure how conversion works... would the totems get any cold dmg from hatred if they converse 100% phys to lightning?

Yes
there's also a 0.0% chance its 100% conversion even at 20/20

I dunno if herald of lightning would proc if ur totems killed shocked enemies but if it would that skill + curse on hit is op
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 17:51:37
December 11 2014 17:49 GMT
#17273
i do think herald of lightning would proc but it would use me as the source and not the totems. so positioning wise it wouldnt work well, otherwise id use it

holy you are kind of right. after researching it looks like the totems get the flat buff, but not the shatter effect. so i actually will go with herald of thunder over ice.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 17:51 GMT
#17274
I'm curious as to why you want to use phys to lightning anyway?

Is it just to allow you to scale the damage with elemental nodes?
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 17:52:04
December 11 2014 17:51 GMT
#17275
shock
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 17:56 GMT
#17276
I guess

I'm suspicious that just an added lightning gem might achieve the same thing and actually add damage but what do I know. 4% crit is an awful low base chance.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 18:07:28
December 11 2014 18:05 GMT
#17277
On December 12 2014 02:56 Sn0_Man wrote:
I guess

I'm suspicious that just an added lightning gem might achieve the same thing and actually add damage but what do I know. 4% crit is an awful low base chance.

Yes, I think you are not wrong in that. But he'll be able to shock more durable monsters and for a longer time. And depending on the monsters the dmg can also be higher with curses and lightning pen(and a lot lower if you meet a double resistance enemy).

Personally, I will not try it unless someone shows it's super strong. I always felt like the fact that monsters hardly have armour is one of the benefits of physical damage. But afaik dual shockwave totem with crit deals extremely high dmg anyway, so I doubt it can be weak. :D
Blackjack11
Profile Joined January 2014
Bulgaria0 Posts
December 11 2014 18:13 GMT
#17278
On December 12 2014 01:51 Probemicro wrote:
If armor is buffed this patch enemies would also benefit and be more resilient to phy dmg now.

And I was pretty much speaking from an EK perspective and if 100% conversion to lightning is possible, most likely with the help of a new unique chernobog equivalent. And yeah curse on hit allows you to apply multiple curses so easily these days.


As a matter of fact , buffing armor would also buff 2 handers , which solves 2 problems with a 1 change.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 18:24:27
December 11 2014 18:17 GMT
#17279
On December 12 2014 03:13 Blackjack11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 01:51 Probemicro wrote:
If armor is buffed this patch enemies would also benefit and be more resilient to phy dmg now.

And I was pretty much speaking from an EK perspective and if 100% conversion to lightning is possible, most likely with the help of a new unique chernobog equivalent. And yeah curse on hit allows you to apply multiple curses so easily these days.


As a matter of fact , buffing armor would also buff 2 handers , which solves 2 problems with a 1 change.

But just a bit, imo the biggest problem of 2 handers is the ridiculous elemental dmg of some bosses and occasionally also from rares. I mean, there always has been immortal call for physical dmg reduction if needed.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
December 11 2014 18:26 GMT
#17280
The best interaction I can come up with off the top of my head for phys to lightning was voltaxic but if ur actually attacking with it then there isn't much phys to convert really and if ur just using voltaxic for the conversion well what phys spell is so high damage that u can't mitigate reflect with cwdt immortal call and have to convert twice all the way to chaos to avoid reflect. I aint buying it.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Prev 1 862 863 864 865 866 1744 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 215
RuFF_SC2 124
ProTech62
Ketroc 31
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 1101
Icarus 9
Dota 2
monkeys_forever616
League of Legends
JimRising 1480
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0602
Mew2King218
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor162
Other Games
summit1g13637
tarik_tv12435
FrodaN5876
shahzam786
ViBE331
Maynarde287
WinterStarcraft245
Trikslyr61
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1043
BasetradeTV160
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH309
• Hupsaiya 67
• davetesta58
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo750
• Stunt173
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
8h 4m
Replay Cast
21h 4m
Replay Cast
1d 7h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 21h
Bellum Gens Elite
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Bellum Gens Elite
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Bellum Gens Elite
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
SC Evo League
5 days
Bellum Gens Elite
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
SOOP
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
AllThingsProtoss
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-05-28
DreamHack Dallas 2025
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL 2v2 Season 3
BSL Season 20
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
NPSL S3
Rose Open S1
CSL Season 17: Qualifier 1
2025 GSL S2
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
ECL Season 49: Europe
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025
YaLLa Compass Qatar 2025
PGL Bucharest 2025
BLAST Open Spring 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 17: Qualifier 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSLAN 2025
K-Championship
SEL Season 2 Championship
Esports World Cup 2025
HSC XXVII
Championship of Russia 2025
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2025
Murky Cup #2
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.