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vlf
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal170 Posts
August 12 2011 00:18 GMT
#441
Chances are there will be a lot of cheating happening, like in most online games.

As for why, I'm not sure, but they must've wanted to mix things up.
çpç
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 12 2011 02:51 GMT
#442
On August 12 2011 08:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Can somebody explain to me how this game won't be hacked to death with bots while diablo3 will certainly be ruined by bots? This game must obviously be doing something very right. Why is there no gold in the game?


No one every said it wasn't going to be, altho being an indie title with a much smaller player base there will be a lot less value in things and attract less botters because of it
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 04:19:19
August 12 2011 03:00 GMT
#443
On August 12 2011 08:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Can somebody explain to me how this game won't be hacked to death with bots while diablo3 will certainly be ruined by bots? This game must obviously be doing something very right. Why is there no gold in the game?


Pretty sure D3 is going to have like no bots compared to D2. How many hackers have you come across in SC2 compared to SC1?

If Bnet 2.0 did one thing right, it was stop hackers/illegal programs.

Also, what are you talking about? There's like 150 people online right now in that game and it's in a closed beta, no fucking shit there's no bots right now rofl.

Still eagerly hoping for a beta key though, no luck so far.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 12 2011 03:10 GMT
#444
On August 12 2011 12:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 08:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Can somebody explain to me how this game won't be hacked to death with bots while diablo3 will certainly be ruined by bots? This game must obviously be doing something very right. Why is there no gold in the game?


Pretty sure D3 is going to have like no bots unlike D2. How many hackers have you come across in SC2 compared to SC1?

If Bnet 2.0 did one thing right, it was stop hackers/illegal programs.

Also, what are you talking about? There's like 150 people online right now in that game and it's in a closed beta, no fucking shit there's no bots right now rofl.

Still eagerly hoping for a beta key though, no luck so far.


I disagree I can go on google right now and find 10-15 different drop hacks/maphacks in under 30seconds, and bnet2.0 hasn't done anything to stop that. D3 is going to be botted to hell that's a fact just like wow and every other mmo or arpg out there and with blizzard's stance of just tempt banning hackers for 2-3days isn't stopping anyone.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
August 12 2011 03:13 GMT
#445
It shouldn't need to be said, but protecting a game's economy which uses real money is slightly more important than preventing silver players from using maphacks.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 12 2011 03:16 GMT
#446
On August 12 2011 12:13 NotJack wrote:
It shouldn't need to be said, but protecting a game's economy which uses real money is slightly more important than preventing silver players from using maphacks.


You would hope so that's for sure, will they has yet to been seen. Closest example we have is wow in which people have gone nearly 6 years of botting/hacking without so much as tempt bans in many cases.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
August 12 2011 03:24 GMT
#447
On August 12 2011 12:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 08:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Can somebody explain to me how this game won't be hacked to death with bots while diablo3 will certainly be ruined by bots? This game must obviously be doing something very right. Why is there no gold in the game?


Pretty sure D3 is going to have like no bots unlike D2. How many hackers have you come across in SC2 compared to SC1?

If Bnet 2.0 did one thing right, it was stop hackers/illegal programs.

I think that has more to do with SC2 being $60 than Battle.net 2.0.
NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
August 12 2011 03:27 GMT
#448
On August 12 2011 12:24 LoLAdriankat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 12:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Can somebody explain to me how this game won't be hacked to death with bots while diablo3 will certainly be ruined by bots? This game must obviously be doing something very right. Why is there no gold in the game?


Pretty sure D3 is going to have like no bots unlike D2. How many hackers have you come across in SC2 compared to SC1?

If Bnet 2.0 did one thing right, it was stop hackers/illegal programs.

I think that has more to do with SC2 being $60 than Battle.net 2.0.


I know it has a lot more to do with Battle.net 2.0, since a lot of the game not being on the client's computer is what makes the potential for security much greater. Are you saying $10 is what made them have to take care of their game?
walletwaffle
Profile Joined January 2011
67 Posts
August 12 2011 03:40 GMT
#449
On August 12 2011 08:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Why is there no gold in the game?



Read this Developer Diary.

I've played up through most of the first act on Cruel (the second difficulty) on hardcore mode. The item-based economy works fairly well as it functions a lot like a crude crafting system where your crafting items are actually useful. You end up having to make a decision on what to do with your orbs/augmentation items. Do you use them immediately to increase the quality of your items? Do you spend them at the vendor to buy that shiny belt? Do you trade them with other players for other orbs/scrolls so that you can buy that shiny helm? Or do you save them so that you can upgrade/purchase/trade for better items later?


I've been okay'ed to stream my gameplay so I will set that up shortly and hopefully be able to show you guys some of the game.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 04:22:58
August 12 2011 04:05 GMT
#450
On August 12 2011 12:10 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 12:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Can somebody explain to me how this game won't be hacked to death with bots while diablo3 will certainly be ruined by bots? This game must obviously be doing something very right. Why is there no gold in the game?


Pretty sure D3 is going to have like no bots unlike D2. How many hackers have you come across in SC2 compared to SC1?

If Bnet 2.0 did one thing right, it was stop hackers/illegal programs.

Also, what are you talking about? There's like 150 people online right now in that game and it's in a closed beta, no fucking shit there's no bots right now rofl.

Still eagerly hoping for a beta key though, no luck so far.


I disagree I can go on google right now and find 10-15 different drop hacks/maphacks in under 30seconds, and bnet2.0 hasn't done anything to stop that. D3 is going to be botted to hell that's a fact just like wow and every other mmo or arpg out there and with blizzard's stance of just tempt banning hackers for 2-3days isn't stopping anyone.


Pretty sure permanently banning you from playing the game and forcing you to buy a new one is a good way to stop it. I doubt you'll be able to keep people from creating the programs, but who cares that they get made if no one uses them?

It's just not worth going to be worth risk for most people imo with Bnet 2.0 banning your entire game rather than just accounts that could be remade infinitely in D2/SCBW/WC3.

Could I borrow your crystal ball sometime though? I'd like to know some other facts about the future and which games are going to be ruined before they come out.

On August 12 2011 12:13 NotJack wrote:
It shouldn't need to be said, but protecting a game's economy which uses real money is slightly more important than preventing silver players from using maphacks.


You must have never played Eve Online, which has an amazing economy while being connected to real money through Plex, and they're both player-driven.
NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
August 12 2011 04:43 GMT
#451
On August 12 2011 13:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 12:13 NotJack wrote:
It shouldn't need to be said, but protecting a game's economy which uses real money is slightly more important than preventing silver players from using maphacks.


You must have never played Eve Online, which has an amazing economy while being connected to real money through Plex, and they're both player-driven.


I think you're a little confused, as I was saying D3 will have a secure economy. Remember to use context clues.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 05:13:49
August 12 2011 05:12 GMT
#452
On August 12 2011 13:43 NotJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 13:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


On August 12 2011 12:13 NotJack wrote:
It shouldn't need to be said, but protecting a game's economy which uses real money is slightly more important than preventing silver players from using maphacks.


You must have never played Eve Online, which has an amazing economy while being connected to real money through Plex, and they're both player-driven.


I think you're a little confused, as I was saying D3 will have a secure economy. Remember to use context clues.


Ah, I read into the "protecting" differently, thinking you were saying fixing the economy was more important than fixing the bots, my mistake.
Puph
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 05:21:57
August 12 2011 05:14 GMT
#453
On August 12 2011 11:51 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 08:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Can somebody explain to me how this game won't be hacked to death with bots while diablo3 will certainly be ruined by bots? This game must obviously be doing something very right. Why is there no gold in the game?


No one every said it wasn't going to be, altho being an indie title with a much smaller player base there will be a lot less value in things and attract less botters because of it


You really like to bash games in the alpha/beta stage don't you? lol

On August 12 2011 12:10 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 12:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On August 12 2011 08:33 PepperoniPiZZa wrote:
Can somebody explain to me how this game won't be hacked to death with bots while diablo3 will certainly be ruined by bots? This game must obviously be doing something very right. Why is there no gold in the game?


Pretty sure D3 is going to have like no bots unlike D2. How many hackers have you come across in SC2 compared to SC1?

If Bnet 2.0 did one thing right, it was stop hackers/illegal programs.

Also, what are you talking about? There's like 150 people online right now in that game and it's in a closed beta, no fucking shit there's no bots right now rofl.

Still eagerly hoping for a beta key though, no luck so far.


I disagree I can go on google right now and find 10-15 different drop hacks/maphacks in under 30seconds, and bnet2.0 hasn't done anything to stop that. D3 is going to be botted to hell that's a fact just like wow and every other mmo or arpg out there and with blizzard's stance of just tempt banning hackers for 2-3days isn't stopping anyone.


9-14 of those are bannable within the month guaranteed, the other one costs money. And is still bannable eventually. Also, I cannot find evidence of 2-3 day bans by blizzard for 3rd party program. Unless you are still talking about d2 which was long forgotten by blizzard a long time ago, clearly. And wow? f*** wow

more edit: You bashing too or what? Is D3 secure or will it be botted due to 3 day temp bans and such?
Intel Dual Core 4400 @ ~2.00GHz / 2046MB RAM / 256 MB ATI Radeon x1300PRO
NotJack
Profile Joined December 2009
United States737 Posts
August 12 2011 05:19 GMT
#454
I know it's an assumption, but I think the logic that Blizzard would only link themselves with RMT if they could control duping and botting is a pretty safe bet. Companies like Blizzard and Valve are 100 steps ahead of us, they aren't remaking CoD and adding throwing knives. If there's a duping fiasco that would destroy Diablo 3's reputation, and it's ludicrous to just say Blizzard has overlooked it.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
August 12 2011 07:03 GMT
#455
Good morning fellas.

A new day is here and the quest to get into the beta continues

Or I'll have to keep watching someone else play on stream
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
August 12 2011 07:04 GMT
#456
They recently changed the invite ticker again, this time inviting 1 random and 1 "veteran" each cycle. They haven't explicitly stated what makes someone a veteran, but they said its for people who were members of the site before the beta started.
Chance favors the prepared mind.
papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
August 12 2011 07:08 GMT
#457
On August 12 2011 06:29 zanzib wrote:
Ok my first few impressions,

Gameplay is pretty solid but its not very immersive. While it is dark, its hard to feel the atmosphere. It plays like Diablo except all your skills are passive, and you obtain skills from gems.

It gets repetitive pretty quick (it's still beta and has a lot of potential) but the items you can obtain now are relatively limited and needs a fair overhaul to keep the user base trying to perfect their gear and creating unique builds.

It's a great start for this game and for hack and slash fans is fun


I wonder what microtransactions there gonna be in the game. Do you know anything about that?
Khavok1
Profile Joined March 2010
Belize15 Posts
August 12 2011 07:40 GMT
#458
[/QUOTE]

I wonder what microtransactions there gonna be in the game. Do you know anything about that?[/QUOTE]

Only cosmetic things, nothing that effects gameplay.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
August 12 2011 07:58 GMT
#459
Holy shit guys look at the timer. Double the invites! One to random one to a veteran.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
August 12 2011 09:24 GMT
#460
Damn screwed myself on vet status, signed up before the cut off date but never bothered to post til after beta was announced
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
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