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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 00:58:50
January 25 2013 00:54 GMT
#3881
Or join a party and have someone tank it for you :D.

Also, Raise Spectre-ing a Defiler to spam Lower Elemental Resistance for my Freezing Pulse is the greatest thing ever ^^.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 01:06:39
January 25 2013 01:04 GMT
#3882
So I just put this build together on a whim. It's for my ranger. I'm going for big physical damage, life leech and blood magic.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAbwB0QR-BbUF-QguCIkJEAuRDPIQLRUgFfAZjhn-GtsbASF2I_Yk_SpNLOkwcTB8MfoyATJ-MpQ1kjboOdQ6QjpSOlg-zz8nS3hN407IUUdYr1pIXWhh626qb_J293fUd9d4DXpTfwJ_K4bOhxmNfY2_kyWVBZrxmyabjZ8noJ-hpKJAo4qkeKfUqW6qf6q4q9KsWa-nr-uxMLIZtMW18r3mwTPB1cSixqLKqc3qzqjPetN-1CPVANaK2OvcFd2o3vjfv-dU6Nbtg-4O73rv8PT49qP5Vvlj_o_-uv7I


Key points:
Blood Magic
Acrobatics
Phase Acrobatics
Arrow Dodging
Lots of HP
King of the Hill


Any ranger experts want to tear my first build apart?
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
January 25 2013 01:23 GMT
#3883
On January 25 2013 10:04 crms wrote:
So I just put this build together on a whim. It's for my ranger. I'm going for big physical damage, life leech and blood magic.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAbwB0QR-BbUF-QguCIkJEAuRDPIQLRUgFfAZjhn-GtsbASF2I_Yk_SpNLOkwcTB8MfoyATJ-MpQ1kjboOdQ6QjpSOlg-zz8nS3hN407IUUdYr1pIXWhh626qb_J293fUd9d4DXpTfwJ_K4bOhxmNfY2_kyWVBZrxmyabjZ8noJ-hpKJAo4qkeKfUqW6qf6q4q9KsWa-nr-uxMLIZtMW18r3mwTPB1cSixqLKqc3qzqjPetN-1CPVANaK2OvcFd2o3vjfv-dU6Nbtg-4O73rv8PT49qP5Vvlj_o_-uv7I


Key points:
Blood Magic
Acrobatics
Phase Acrobatics
Arrow Dodging
Lots of HP
King of the Hill


Any ranger experts want to tear my first build apart?


I think you're trying to do too much with this build, but a few clarifying questions:

1) Hardcore or Softcore?
2) Do you have an idea of what skill gems you'll be using?

Upon first glance, I think you're stretching a little far to get Iron Grip and Blood Magic, for not very much return. It's unlikely you'll get much Strength from gear, unless you tailor to it specifically, and you only get it in the skill tree because you use the attribute highway to get to Iron Grip and Blood Magic. Maybe with a description of skill gems you want it will make more sense, but I don't get the inclusion of Blood Magic.

Also keep in mind that you used every single possible point in that build. While it's great to have an idea of what your max level character will look like, you don't want to have to wait until max level to be able to play your character the way he was designed. Take Blood Magic for example. It takes ~20 passive points to get from the Ranger starting area over to Blood Magic by only taking attribute nodes. Not only is that inefficient, but at what point in your character progression will you feel comfortable spending that many points on dexterity/strength nodes? It would cripple you in the early game, and if you wait to do it at level 60+, what's the point? At that stage you are already doing end game, so your build-defining keystones should already be present in your build.

If you really want to work Blood Magic into your playstyle, it may be easier to use the Blood Magic support gem rather than going for the keystone. It becomes more difficult to work it in to more than one ability, but I think you'll get a better character as an end result.

But those are just my first impressions...people are free to shoot me down if I'm way off base.
Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
January 25 2013 01:32 GMT
#3884
Holy shit pvp 3v3 on this is fun as hell. Me and a friend just won 15 3v3s in a row, if it wasn't for work tomorrow, would sit and pvp for hours
<3
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 01:51:46
January 25 2013 01:51 GMT
#3885
On January 25 2013 10:04 crms wrote:
So I just put this build together on a whim. It's for my ranger. I'm going for big physical damage, life leech and blood magic.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAbwB0QR-BbUF-QguCIkJEAuRDPIQLRUgFfAZjhn-GtsbASF2I_Yk_SpNLOkwcTB8MfoyATJ-MpQ1kjboOdQ6QjpSOlg-zz8nS3hN407IUUdYr1pIXWhh626qb_J293fUd9d4DXpTfwJ_K4bOhxmNfY2_kyWVBZrxmyabjZ8noJ-hpKJAo4qkeKfUqW6qf6q4q9KsWa-nr-uxMLIZtMW18r3mwTPB1cSixqLKqc3qzqjPetN-1CPVANaK2OvcFd2o3vjfv-dU6Nbtg-4O73rv8PT49qP5Vvlj_o_-uv7I


Key points:
Blood Magic
Acrobatics
Phase Acrobatics
Arrow Dodging
Lots of HP
King of the Hill


Any ranger experts want to tear my first build apart?
I can't check the exact build because the site is apparently down, but here's my advice from what you've said:+ Show Spoiler +

1- King of the Hill is rather lackluster. The reason is that you can't really have a high crit chance with a bow. Every bow has a base crit chance of 5%, the lowest of any weapon. There are good crit passives, that is true, but even then, it is barely worth investing into (until they rework diamond flasks anyway). If you get Blood Magic, you should definitely grab Resolute technique, and ignore anything related to crit/accuracy. Because you will need accuracy at some point. +30% is ok, +60% is good, but +100% is about what you'd want with a crit build. But, again, without godlike gear crits are not worth it for a bow. Leave the crits to wands, daggers, staves and spells. Oh, and knockback is a bit buggy at the moment.

2- Phase/Acrobatics + Arrow Dodging is really good, but don't overdo it. Evasion Passives are terrible, so concentrate on getting good evasion from your gear, and tons of life. You'll have a hard time getting good resists as a Ranger anyway, so you'll need all the life you can get.

3- Piercing Shot (the 35% passive) is the thing you want in that area. 35% pierce + the support gem gives you almost 100% pierce chance, at which point you don't need fork or chain. This helps to keep your mana costs low, so it is a great option if you don't grab Blood Magic.

4- Physical Life Leech with a bow is also lackluster. The reason is that no bow skill multiplies your physical damage. You also get a lot of elemental damage from gear + quiver, and the best skills (ice/lightning/poison arrow, elemental hit) don't end up dealing that much physical damage. Rain of Arrow gets good at higher levels, but the AoE passive is in the templar tree, surrounded by juicy elemental damage. Split Arrow is also greatly overrated now that chain has been fixed. You might get physical life leech to work with a frenzy build, but frenzy requires either BM or EB as the mana cost is absurdly high.

Well, that was way too long. Back to the game !
Benjamin99
Profile Joined April 2012
4176 Posts
January 25 2013 01:52 GMT
#3886
I'm playing in HC and looking for chain and life leech support gem and blood magic support gem and life gain on hit. Also high physical wand lvl 30-50. Also grace and disipline and wrath aura

If any1 got any of these and wish to help me out would be very appreciated i got several shadow skills also and a few support gems i can trade and orbs of course

You can whisper me on Lifeleechs
Stephano & Jaedong <-- The Pain Train. Polt and Innovation to EG plz
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 25 2013 01:54 GMT
#3887
I cant even load the website to checkout the build or to continue to plan out mine
Weird
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States832 Posts
January 25 2013 02:14 GMT
#3888
I've been getting a lot of random disconnects on this game. I have played a lot of online games (D3, Wow, SC2, DOTA) without a problem, but according to the FAQ on their website this is my ISP's fault.

So if I call them what do I say? And yes, I've already reset my router and all of that, this is not a wireless connection either.

Any ideas?

RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 25 2013 02:22 GMT
#3889
On January 25 2013 11:14 Weird wrote:
I've been getting a lot of random disconnects on this game. I have played a lot of online games (D3, Wow, SC2, DOTA) without a problem, but according to the FAQ on their website this is my ISP's fault.

So if I call them what do I say? And yes, I've already reset my router and all of that, this is not a wireless connection either.

Any ideas?



They've been having a lot of server problems and disconnects today so at least for today I think you can safely blame GGG for the dcs and not your isp.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 25 2013 02:49 GMT
#3890
Is there a irc room for poe? Or tl poe?
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 25 2013 02:56 GMT
#3891
On January 25 2013 10:51 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 10:04 crms wrote:
So I just put this build together on a whim. It's for my ranger. I'm going for big physical damage, life leech and blood magic.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAbwB0QR-BbUF-QguCIkJEAuRDPIQLRUgFfAZjhn-GtsbASF2I_Yk_SpNLOkwcTB8MfoyATJ-MpQ1kjboOdQ6QjpSOlg-zz8nS3hN407IUUdYr1pIXWhh626qb_J293fUd9d4DXpTfwJ_K4bOhxmNfY2_kyWVBZrxmyabjZ8noJ-hpKJAo4qkeKfUqW6qf6q4q9KsWa-nr-uxMLIZtMW18r3mwTPB1cSixqLKqc3qzqjPetN-1CPVANaK2OvcFd2o3vjfv-dU6Nbtg-4O73rv8PT49qP5Vvlj_o_-uv7I


Key points:
Blood Magic
Acrobatics
Phase Acrobatics
Arrow Dodging
Lots of HP
King of the Hill


Any ranger experts want to tear my first build apart?
I can't check the exact build because the site is apparently down, but here's my advice from what you've said:+ Show Spoiler +

1- King of the Hill is rather lackluster. The reason is that you can't really have a high crit chance with a bow. Every bow has a base crit chance of 5%, the lowest of any weapon. There are good crit passives, that is true, but even then, it is barely worth investing into (until they rework diamond flasks anyway). If you get Blood Magic, you should definitely grab Resolute technique, and ignore anything related to crit/accuracy. Because you will need accuracy at some point. +30% is ok, +60% is good, but +100% is about what you'd want with a crit build. But, again, without godlike gear crits are not worth it for a bow. Leave the crits to wands, daggers, staves and spells. Oh, and knockback is a bit buggy at the moment.

2- Phase/Acrobatics + Arrow Dodging is really good, but don't overdo it. Evasion Passives are terrible, so concentrate on getting good evasion from your gear, and tons of life. You'll have a hard time getting good resists as a Ranger anyway, so you'll need all the life you can get.

3- Piercing Shot (the 35% passive) is the thing you want in that area. 35% pierce + the support gem gives you almost 100% pierce chance, at which point you don't need fork or chain. This helps to keep your mana costs low, so it is a great option if you don't grab Blood Magic.

4- Physical Life Leech with a bow is also lackluster. The reason is that no bow skill multiplies your physical damage. You also get a lot of elemental damage from gear + quiver, and the best skills (ice/lightning/poison arrow, elemental hit) don't end up dealing that much physical damage. Rain of Arrow gets good at higher levels, but the AoE passive is in the templar tree, surrounded by juicy elemental damage. Split Arrow is also greatly overrated now that chain has been fixed. You might get physical life leech to work with a frenzy build, but frenzy requires either BM or EB as the mana cost is absurdly high.

Well, that was way too long. Back to the game !



Awesome advice, I'm newb at knowing anything about the game my build was complete theory-craft just based on the passive tree.

What do you think of something like this?

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAbwB0QR-BYQFtQX5CIkLkQ-rEC0VIBXwGbQZ1Rn-GwEk_SU_LOkwcTB8MgEylDMMOdQ6QjpYS3hRR11oX-Fh4mHrayRsFm89b_J31HfXelN_An8rg9uGzocZh0GNfY2_kL6TJZUFlemXBprxmyabjZ8noJ-hpKJAo4qm4KfUqn-quK-nr-uw0rEwshm0GrTFxKLGosqPytPN6s5xzqjPetGp1CPVANaK2cbaZNqN3ILdqN7G3vbh2-LL5wrnVOd05-ro1upi73rwQvT49qP5M_lW-WP6sfxL_iv-yP_e
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
January 25 2013 03:07 GMT
#3892
Avoid all Dex nodes, they are basically worthless, unless you specifically need it to equip gear/skills (and you definitely don't). And you'll need a ton more life. At least grab Thick Sin and Alchemist. And Mana Flow since you don't have BM/EB. Plus you forgot the best bow crit passive of all, Deadly Draw, right in front of Arrow Dodge. Good luck on the 3rd try =)
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 03:23:02
January 25 2013 03:15 GMT
#3893
want to get Spell Totem so badly on my Witch Summoner

early solo leveling for Summoner is a whole lot worse in OB than it was in CB due to minion life nerf and difficulty revamp + A3
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
January 25 2013 03:30 GMT
#3894
I still dont understand why a game this good is free...
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
January 25 2013 03:33 GMT
#3895
welp, reroll time just died at lv14 on HC lol. :E

elite flicker stike skeletons just shit on my ranger in the shipyard. ~_~
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 25 2013 03:39 GMT
#3896
On January 25 2013 12:30 DannyJ wrote:
I still dont understand why a game this good is free...


lol I was saying the same thing when I first discovered it haha..
I guess they think they might make more money this way but i wouldve gladly paid 60$ for a full 6acts and possible expansions. It would be everything I dreamed d3 to be haha
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 25 2013 03:43 GMT
#3897
On January 25 2013 12:30 DannyJ wrote:
I still dont understand why a game this good is free...


Because this is a new company. If this game was (say) published by Blizzard, tons of people would buy it because people recognize the brand.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
January 25 2013 03:46 GMT
#3898
On January 25 2013 12:30 DannyJ wrote:
I still dont understand why a game this good is free...

For sure I've asked myself that question many times would have gladly dropped the standard $60 for it or $100 on a ce with some useless shit in it.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
January 25 2013 05:08 GMT
#3899
Look at this claw I got today! Hope I get something good for it.. lol
[image loading]
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
January 25 2013 05:14 GMT
#3900
Umm, I'm building my way up to mind drinker from the shadow starting point, shall I go from the dex nodes route or the int ones?
Gonna dual weild daggers, xD.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
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