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Croatia7457 Posts
On January 24 2013 19:11 BLinD-RawR wrote: you guys are hitting Act 1 cruel and I haven't even started to download the patch :p Don't worry, some of us only made it to Ledge normal before needing to go to work :D | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On January 24 2013 16:43 Benjamin99 wrote: Its a free to game game no one is forcing you to buy. GGG could have gone the way other free2play companies do with xp boost and all sort of pay2win crap but they didn't because they got integrity. So yea it might be inconvenient but really no1 forcing you That's simply a fanboy excuse. Just because they do other things right doesn't make this not wrong. You can't condone bad business practices - ever. Especially when GGG has gone out of their way to emphasize how they are the whitest knights in the universe and 0% about screwing customers. And this is a way of screwing customers, although there are of course worse things. Instead of being honest and saying "Here, an effect is $15. I hope you enjoy it". They say "hey an effect is worth about $15 but we can't give you $15 to buy but instead $14.50 so you have to buy another pack for $5. we can't tell you why that is but trust me... it's not because we want your money, we're not about screwing customers over". It's just shady and bad, no matter how good the game is or who's behind it. Stuff like this needs to be mentioned early. If they want to play white knight they should juts be 100% honest with their customers, always, and give you an option to pay only what you want to buy. Not $5 more. If they want $20 for their skins they should charge $20 and be honest with the customer. Not this shady way. Would you be fine with a supermarket that doesn't give back change? I mean, it's optional, right? Nobody has to buy their stuff, right? There's a reason there are laws against this in the normal world. | ||
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MrKn4rz
Germany2153 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On January 24 2013 20:30 heishe wrote: That's simply a fanboy excuse. Just because they do other things right doesn't make this not wrong. You can't condone bad business practices - ever. Especially when GGG has gone out of their way to emphasize how they are the whitest knights in the universe and 0% about screwing customers. And this is a way of screwing customers, although there are of course worse things. Instead of being honest and saying "Here, an effect is $15. I hope you enjoy it". They say "hey an effect is worth about $15 but we can't give you $15 to buy but instead $14.50 so you have to buy another pack for $5. we can't tell you why that is but trust me... it's not because we want your money, we're not about screwing customers over". It's just shady and bad, no matter how good the game is or who's behind it. Stuff like this needs to be mentioned early. If they want to play white knight they should juts be 100% honest with their customers, always, and give you an option to pay only what you want to buy. Not $5 more. If they want $20 for their skins they should charge $20 and be honest with the customer. Not this shady way. Would you be fine with a supermarket that doesn't give back change? I mean, it's optional, right? Nobody has to buy their stuff, right? There's a reason there are laws against this in the normal world. I am almost 100% sure GGG mentioned exp boosts in the shop. There will be exp boosts in poe. | ||
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Broodwurst
Germany1586 Posts
On January 24 2013 21:22 Sufficiency wrote: I am almost 100% sure GGG mentioned exp boosts in the shop. There will be exp boosts in poe. I'm 100% sure theys said the exact opposite | ||
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Xapti
Canada2473 Posts
On January 24 2013 12:00 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote: I never beat the 2nd act of D2 because I usually got bored and quit before then; we'll see if this game will be any different. I don't see why it would be any different at all. That said, I don't see how you could get so bored from Diablo 2 without even beating it. Diablo 2 is a terribly boring game, but that's once you've at least gotten a character or two to beat the game on nightmare (or hell). I couldn't see leaving after act 2. | ||
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neurosx
Luxembourg1096 Posts
On January 24 2013 20:30 heishe wrote: That's simply a fanboy excuse. Just because they do other things right doesn't make this not wrong. You can't condone bad business practices - ever. Especially when GGG has gone out of their way to emphasize how they are the whitest knights in the universe and 0% about screwing customers. And this is a way of screwing customers, although there are of course worse things. Instead of being honest and saying "Here, an effect is $15. I hope you enjoy it". They say "hey an effect is worth about $15 but we can't give you $15 to buy but instead $14.50 so you have to buy another pack for $5. we can't tell you why that is but trust me... it's not because we want your money, we're not about screwing customers over". It's just shady and bad, no matter how good the game is or who's behind it. Stuff like this needs to be mentioned early. If they want to play white knight they should juts be 100% honest with their customers, always, and give you an option to pay only what you want to buy. Not $5 more. If they want $20 for their skins they should charge $20 and be honest with the customer. Not this shady way. Would you be fine with a supermarket that doesn't give back change? I mean, it's optional, right? Nobody has to buy their stuff, right? There's a reason there are laws against this in the normal world. Sorry but a LOT of micro transaction games force you to pay more than you need, HoN, LoL, Dota2, Aion.. Doesn't mean it's right but it's just the way it is right now | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On January 24 2013 21:46 neurosx wrote: Sorry but a LOT of micro transaction games force you to pay more than you need, HoN, LoL, Dota2, Aion.. Doesn't mean it's right but it's just the way it is right now Defeatist stance. Even more so since the makers of HoN, LoL, etc. don't pride themselves in being white knights of the gaming community. By the way Dota 2 doesn't have that kind of stuff afaik. If you want to purchase something for $2 you can as far as I'm aware just buy $2 in store money. | ||
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-Dustin-
United States718 Posts
On January 24 2013 23:47 travis wrote: I've played a couple thousand games of LoL and never paid anything. You can also play a PoE forever and never pay anything. On January 24 2013 21:50 heishe wrote: That's simply a fanboy excuse. Just because they do other things right doesn't make this not wrong. You can't condone bad business practices - ever. Especially when GGG has gone out of their way to emphasize how they are the whitest knights in the universe and 0% about screwing customers. And this is a way of screwing customers, although there are of course worse things. Instead of being honest and saying "Here, an effect is $15. I hope you enjoy it". They say "hey an effect is worth about $15 but we can't give you $15 to buy but instead $14.50 so you have to buy another pack for $5. we can't tell you why that is but trust me... it's not because we want your money, we're not about screwing customers over". It's just shady and bad, no matter how good the game is or who's behind it. Stuff like this needs to be mentioned early. If they want to play white knight they should juts be 100% honest with their customers, always, and give you an option to pay only what you want to buy. Not $5 more. If they want $20 for their skins they should charge $20 and be honest with the customer. Not this shady way. Would you be fine with a supermarket that doesn't give back change? I mean, it's optional, right? Nobody has to buy their stuff, right? There's a reason there are laws against this in the normal world. I understand the complaint but we can't do anything about the price on items in the item mall go to the PoE forums and try there. But as already stated most micro-transaction games do this as above stated LoL, and HoN are great examples. I don't agree with it personally but I also never purchase anything on these games. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On January 24 2013 21:50 heishe wrote: Defeatist stance. Even more so since the makers of HoN, LoL, etc. don't pride themselves in being white knights of the gaming community. By the way Dota 2 doesn't have that kind of stuff afaik. If you want to purchase something for $2 you can as far as I'm aware just buy $2 in store money. If you want it then pay for it. If you don't then dont. It's not required. Really easy. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
Can you change where your passive skill tree points are allocated after you place them? I'm wondering, because I like to make up my own builds in games rather than just doing some cookie-cutter build to start, but if I can't replace points later, I'll have to weigh that against potentially playing a character and then hitting a wall when I get to the point where I either can't survive or do enough damage. Will this be a problem? So I guess, to split it up: Can you replace points after you've placed them, or do you just have to make another character to try different builds? Can you still be effective playing the game if you haven't maximized your build and have something sub-optimal instead, or will you hit a wall where you can't continue? | ||
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heishe
Germany2284 Posts
On January 24 2013 23:53 Infernal_dream wrote: If you want it then pay for it. If you don't then dont. It's not required. Really easy. What I want isn't even being discussed here. You missed the point. This is about the fact that they try to pull psychological shenanigans to make the customer pay more than he wants to. It's dishonest. That being said I just wanted to bring this problem to everyones attention and replied to some answers. I don't want to clutter this thread so we should probably not keep going (I'll post something on the support forums later when I get home from work). | ||
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Tennet
United States1458 Posts
On January 25 2013 00:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Quick question: Can you change where your passive skill tree points are allocated after you place them? I'm wondering, because I like to make up my own builds in games rather than just doing some cookie-cutter build to start, but if I can't replace points later, I'll have to weigh that against potentially playing a character and then hitting a wall when I get to the point where I either can't survive or do enough damage. Will this be a problem? So I guess, to split it up: Can you replace points after you've placed them, or do you just have to make another character to try different builds? Can you still be effective playing the game if you haven't maximized your build and have something sub-optimal instead, or will you hit a wall where you can't continue? Some quests give you refund points and there is currency that gives you one refund point (Orb of Regret). | ||
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Dirkinity
Germany409 Posts
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ETisME
12714 Posts
same with armor | ||
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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
On January 25 2013 00:13 Dirkinity wrote: Finished Act1 but lost some motivation. My char sucks pretty hard. I have a templer with Raise Zombie but I lack a good Spell. Spark is kinda meh and I have no other AoE spell. :o I pretty much instantly rerolled after being in a similar situation. I did have a melee aoe around me as well but I knew I was just messing my character up. | ||
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k0pf
Germany180 Posts
On January 25 2013 00:03 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Quick question: Can you change where your passive skill tree points are allocated after you place them? I'm wondering, because I like to make up my own builds in games rather than just doing some cookie-cutter build to start, but if I can't replace points later, I'll have to weigh that against potentially playing a character and then hitting a wall when I get to the point where I either can't survive or do enough damage. Will this be a problem? So I guess, to split it up: Can you replace points after you've placed them, or do you just have to make another character to try different builds? Can you still be effective playing the game if you haven't maximized your build and have something sub-optimal instead, or will you hit a wall where you can't continue? You can respec some points per play through. With orbs of regret you can theoretically respec all but that would be insanely expensive. Dont worry about your build too much. You will have Problems with weak builds in the late game. But i guess almost every build can beat the game atleast once. One note : dont try to build super glass cannons... You need some defense ;-) | ||
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-Dustin-
United States718 Posts
On January 25 2013 00:15 ETisME wrote: Just wondering, if I bought some cool special weapon effect, can I take out that special effect and put it onto another weapon later on? same with armor I believe so if you click your item mall tab it has a remove from item option. | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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