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supp
Profile Joined February 2011
82 Posts
January 23 2013 17:07 GMT
#3561
you can check the purchasable effects on their youtube channel (dances, helms, weapons)
http://www.youtube.com/user/grindinggear
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 23 2013 17:08 GMT
#3562
On January 24 2013 02:00 Jyvblamo wrote:
Is TL going to have its own paid league?


That would be a great idea
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 23 2013 17:29 GMT
#3563
On January 24 2013 01:27 EchelonTee wrote:
Thanks for the link. I didn't really consider using Glacial Hammer. Does it work as a full Heavy Strike replacement?

e: I'm having trouble understanding Evasion. Do monsters have their own accuracy rating? Thus, would evasion become worse and worse as monsters become higher levels unless you similarly up your evasion rating? Or does evasion rating give a flat chance to evade?

Yes, monsters have accuracy and you need to keep your equipment upgraded to evade well. But same is with armor, maybe even worse as bigger the difference between damage of enemy and your armor rating your armor absorbs less damage.
And with Arrow Dodging (best reason to go evasion) even with weaker evasion then average for monsters at certain level you are still almost immune to arrows.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
January 23 2013 17:53 GMT
#3564
That's not entirely accurate.
1- They increased the accuracy of ranged mobs, so arrow dodging won't be as good without real evasion gear.
2- Evasion has built-in diminishing return. If you double your armor and the monster doubles his damage, you will block the same % of damage as you did before. If you double your evasion and the monster doubles his accuracy, you'll only have ~90% of the chance to evade you had before.

That's part of the reason why Evasion passives are really bad without Iron Reflexes. Not only are they less effective because you already have a good increase to evasion from Dex, but there's also diminishing return.

The upside to evasion is that Enfeeble lowers the monster accuracy as well as damage, and Blind also lowers their chance to hit (though I'm not sure exactly how this works, but I know it simply doesn't work with Unwavering Stance or against Resolute Technique). Arrow Dodging is also grossly overpowered, but hasn't been nerfed yet because evasion is pretty bad without it.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 23 2013 17:57 GMT
#3565
What time exactly does OB start? (Please specify timezone as well).
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Scio
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany522 Posts
January 23 2013 17:59 GMT
#3566
On January 24 2013 02:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
What time exactly does OB start? (Please specify timezone as well).


Check the countdown
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Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 23 2013 17:59 GMT
#3567
On January 24 2013 02:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
What time exactly does OB start? (Please specify timezone as well).


3hours, says so on the website.


okay so im cross posting this from my post the PoE threads

I got the discharge idea from this build of the week video


Witch version
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMB37CCEEGWBUKusyycwbTk7HYRVkqVBK-bSRuvt4dlVyuOvhEtfIPN-riTMtFFR7UEXcZG1-0g4XOLjN3zYG2dgIM4FE0Es6IAgW-ePE3YtoZ9U_LOzLfVdYKbKU-FfYx2Otgt0p8-FkDr7ij6lSBb9G0ZLR9Ms1Aw217B86Kjf8YRlg5I44RjQ4hrNj2lywzy8uHBxYhC8h2PpkSrVa4=


Templar version
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBBVuLjOFz7SBG113G3fNgbZ2AgzgUTaIABLOBb548TdiMdjrYLdKfPraGfVPyzsy31XWCmylPhX0WQLUERUcy0biT6-4o-pUgW_TN-nyDES2OvpLB37CCECycVa5Eq4-mLR9Ms1Aw216D9x8Cfq92EZ6hr5ucLYdlbRnB88Ntgh6IQvIdoqN_xhGWDkjjhGND8uGIazY9pcsM8g==


Im not sure which build to start off with and what the main differences between the two are. I wanted my build to have more hp/es for survivability and I think the templar might do it but idk... I need feedback to finish the build anything would be greatly appreciated !
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 18:14:40
January 23 2013 18:14 GMT
#3568
On January 24 2013 02:59 Obstikal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 02:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
What time exactly does OB start? (Please specify timezone as well).


3hours, says so on the website.


okay so im cross posting this from my post the PoE threads

I got the discharge idea from this build of the week video
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSc6wTmFOlY


Witch version
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMB37CCEEGWBUKusyycwbTk7HYRVkqVBK-bSRuvt4dlVyuOvhEtfIPN-riTMtFFR7UEXcZG1-0g4XOLjN3zYG2dgIM4FE0Es6IAgW-ePE3YtoZ9U_LOzLfVdYKbKU-FfYx2Otgt0p8-FkDr7ij6lSBb9G0ZLR9Ms1Aw217B86Kjf8YRlg5I44RjQ4hrNj2lywzy8uHBxYhC8h2PpkSrVa4=


Templar version
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBBVuLjOFz7SBG113G3fNgbZ2AgzgUTaIABLOBb548TdiMdjrYLdKfPraGfVPyzsy31XWCmylPhX0WQLUERUcy0biT6-4o-pUgW_TN-nyDES2OvpLB37CCECycVa5Eq4-mLR9Ms1Aw216D9x8Cfq92EZ6hr5ucLYdlbRnB88Ntgh6IQvIdoqN_xhGWDkjjhGND8uGIazY9pcsM8g==


Im not sure which build to start off with and what the main differences between the two are. I wanted my build to have more hp/es for survivability and I think the templar might do it but idk... I need feedback to finish the build anything would be greatly appreciated !


Looks like a fun build, but imo would be tough as a first character. Especially now that diamond flasks are 86'd for a rework, it appears extremely gear dependant. Of the three, I'd imagine shadow would work best with easy access to crit nodes, especially without optimal gear.
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Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 18:44:40
January 23 2013 18:38 GMT
#3569
On January 24 2013 03:14 screamingpalm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 02:59 Obstikal wrote:
On January 24 2013 02:57 Sn0_Man wrote:
What time exactly does OB start? (Please specify timezone as well).


3hours, says so on the website.


okay so im cross posting this from my post the PoE threads

I got the discharge idea from this build of the week video
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSc6wTmFOlY


Witch version
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMB37CCEEGWBUKusyycwbTk7HYRVkqVBK-bSRuvt4dlVyuOvhEtfIPN-riTMtFFR7UEXcZG1-0g4XOLjN3zYG2dgIM4FE0Es6IAgW-ePE3YtoZ9U_LOzLfVdYKbKU-FfYx2Otgt0p8-FkDr7ij6lSBb9G0ZLR9Ms1Aw217B86Kjf8YRlg5I44RjQ4hrNj2lywzy8uHBxYhC8h2PpkSrVa4=


Templar version
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBBVuLjOFz7SBG113G3fNgbZ2AgzgUTaIABLOBb548TdiMdjrYLdKfPraGfVPyzsy31XWCmylPhX0WQLUERUcy0biT6-4o-pUgW_TN-nyDES2OvpLB37CCECycVa5Eq4-mLR9Ms1Aw216D9x8Cfq92EZ6hr5ucLYdlbRnB88Ntgh6IQvIdoqN_xhGWDkjjhGND8uGIazY9pcsM8g==


Im not sure which build to start off with and what the main differences between the two are. I wanted my build to have more hp/es for survivability and I think the templar might do it but idk... I need feedback to finish the build anything would be greatly appreciated !


Looks like a fun build, but imo would be tough as a first character. Especially now that diamond flasks are 86'd for a rework, it appears extremely gear dependant. Of the three, I'd imagine shadow would work best with easy access to crit nodes, especially without optimal gear.


hm.. well the only gear the video indicated I would need is a chest piece for power charges on crits. I think this build would be hard mainly because the skills that are needed to grant charges arent that good. I was thinking enduring cry for endurance,frenzy(or just blood rage buff) for frenzy charges and power charges from power siphon but it would be a little awkward going around using these 3skills that would be rather weak for me then doing a powerful aoe attack every 10seconds or so. If only there was a power charge skill that was actually good at doing dmg.. or a buff rather I can just have on because idk how using power siphon as the main attack will do.. they would also accumulate rather slowly compared to frenzy and endurance charges
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
January 23 2013 18:44 GMT
#3570
Is there any way to download the beta patch already? In two hours it will be bed time for me
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
Isualin
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1903 Posts
January 23 2013 18:44 GMT
#3571
i want to play a freezing pulse witch with chaos inoculation tonight. i will try it even though it's nerfed but do you have any suggestions?
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37BXK4IQB2NBlgel5oEFQgLjwFQRUH3SrrNJsrvWLJw74VZKjr7i920ZlQQRLacrwfOOPK-bfIOLeqKjw20XVJ6hzfp_xiKBuJMnqX5ZL50c3MHF6-4y0RHbFvMtRzgbLL-IQk-_hEhFR5I4M3YmPFBCkc_kEfIdHdlDVDyOtQSiLow2XcbkIg5IXfIC_nOz3fOOZOOEQsPfhPBrYG33pohrFee2-rb31U-ZmhEv3nfrY9WBsnVYGw==
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screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
January 23 2013 18:47 GMT
#3572
On January 24 2013 03:44 heishe wrote:
Is there any way to download the beta patch already? In two hours it will be bed time for me


I think we can start dl'ing 13 minutes from my writing this.
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 23 2013 18:58 GMT
#3573
On January 24 2013 03:44 Isualin wrote:
i want to play a freezing pulse witch with chaos inoculation tonight. i will try it even though it's nerfed but do you have any suggestions?
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37BXK4IQB2NBlgel5oEFQgLjwFQRUH3SrrNJsrvWLJw74VZKjr7i920ZlQQRLacrwfOOPK-bfIOLeqKjw20XVJ6hzfp_xiKBuJMnqX5ZL50c3MHF6-4y0RHbFvMtRzgbLL-IQk-_hEhFR5I4M3YmPFBCkc_kEfIdHdlDVDyOtQSiLow2XcbkIg5IXfIC_nOz3fOOZOOEQsPfhPBrYG33pohrFee2-rb31U-ZmhEv3nfrY9WBsnVYGw==


This build doesnt seem to have too much survivability especially since CI wont have +es anymore I dont even know much valuable of a trade it is.. It seems like the dmg output will be good and will have okay res but I have a feeling you might die easily
Dacendoran
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States825 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 19:00:25
January 23 2013 18:59 GMT
#3574
On January 24 2013 03:58 Obstikal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 03:44 Isualin wrote:
i want to play a freezing pulse witch with chaos inoculation tonight. i will try it even though it's nerfed but do you have any suggestions?
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37BXK4IQB2NBlgel5oEFQgLjwFQRUH3SrrNJsrvWLJw74VZKjr7i920ZlQQRLacrwfOOPK-bfIOLeqKjw20XVJ6hzfp_xiKBuJMnqX5ZL50c3MHF6-4y0RHbFvMtRzgbLL-IQk-_hEhFR5I4M3YmPFBCkc_kEfIdHdlDVDyOtQSiLow2XcbkIg5IXfIC_nOz3fOOZOOEQsPfhPBrYG33pohrFee2-rb31U-ZmhEv3nfrY9WBsnVYGw==


This build doesnt seem to have too much survivability especially since CI wont have +es anymore I dont even know much valuable of a trade it is.. It seems like the dmg output will be good and will have okay res but I have a feeling you might die easily


So CI isn't going to have any added ES anymore, just immunity to chaos damage?
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
January 23 2013 19:03 GMT
#3575
On January 24 2013 03:59 Dacendoran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 03:58 Obstikal wrote:
On January 24 2013 03:44 Isualin wrote:
i want to play a freezing pulse witch with chaos inoculation tonight. i will try it even though it's nerfed but do you have any suggestions?
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37BXK4IQB2NBlgel5oEFQgLjwFQRUH3SrrNJsrvWLJw74VZKjr7i920ZlQQRLacrwfOOPK-bfIOLeqKjw20XVJ6hzfp_xiKBuJMnqX5ZL50c3MHF6-4y0RHbFvMtRzgbLL-IQk-_hEhFR5I4M3YmPFBCkc_kEfIdHdlDVDyOtQSiLow2XcbkIg5IXfIC_nOz3fOOZOOEQsPfhPBrYG33pohrFee2-rb31U-ZmhEv3nfrY9WBsnVYGw==


This build doesnt seem to have too much survivability especially since CI wont have +es anymore I dont even know much valuable of a trade it is.. It seems like the dmg output will be good and will have okay res but I have a feeling you might die easily


So CI isn't going to have any added ES anymore, just immunity to chaos damage?


The CI keystoe passive doesn't, but they have added more nodes for ES, so it basically is a larger investment of amount of skill points now (if I understand the changes correctly).
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
January 23 2013 19:05 GMT
#3576
On January 24 2013 04:03 screamingpalm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 03:59 Dacendoran wrote:
On January 24 2013 03:58 Obstikal wrote:
On January 24 2013 03:44 Isualin wrote:
i want to play a freezing pulse witch with chaos inoculation tonight. i will try it even though it's nerfed but do you have any suggestions?
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37BXK4IQB2NBlgel5oEFQgLjwFQRUH3SrrNJsrvWLJw74VZKjr7i920ZlQQRLacrwfOOPK-bfIOLeqKjw20XVJ6hzfp_xiKBuJMnqX5ZL50c3MHF6-4y0RHbFvMtRzgbLL-IQk-_hEhFR5I4M3YmPFBCkc_kEfIdHdlDVDyOtQSiLow2XcbkIg5IXfIC_nOz3fOOZOOEQsPfhPBrYG33pohrFee2-rb31U-ZmhEv3nfrY9WBsnVYGw==


This build doesnt seem to have too much survivability especially since CI wont have +es anymore I dont even know much valuable of a trade it is.. It seems like the dmg output will be good and will have okay res but I have a feeling you might die easily


So CI isn't going to have any added ES anymore, just immunity to chaos damage?


The CI keystoe passive doesn't, but they have added more nodes for ES, so it basically is a larger investment of amount of skill points now (if I understand the changes correctly).


No, that's not true. That was an old alpha version of the passive tree. Posters on their forum hinted that the OB will NOT have bonus ES passives like you saw.
Obstikal
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
616 Posts
January 23 2013 19:06 GMT
#3577
On January 24 2013 04:03 screamingpalm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 03:59 Dacendoran wrote:
On January 24 2013 03:58 Obstikal wrote:
On January 24 2013 03:44 Isualin wrote:
i want to play a freezing pulse witch with chaos inoculation tonight. i will try it even though it's nerfed but do you have any suggestions?
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37BXK4IQB2NBlgel5oEFQgLjwFQRUH3SrrNJsrvWLJw74VZKjr7i920ZlQQRLacrwfOOPK-bfIOLeqKjw20XVJ6hzfp_xiKBuJMnqX5ZL50c3MHF6-4y0RHbFvMtRzgbLL-IQk-_hEhFR5I4M3YmPFBCkc_kEfIdHdlDVDyOtQSiLow2XcbkIg5IXfIC_nOz3fOOZOOEQsPfhPBrYG33pohrFee2-rb31U-ZmhEv3nfrY9WBsnVYGw==


This build doesnt seem to have too much survivability especially since CI wont have +es anymore I dont even know much valuable of a trade it is.. It seems like the dmg output will be good and will have okay res but I have a feeling you might die easily


So CI isn't going to have any added ES anymore, just immunity to chaos damage?


The CI keystoe passive doesn't, but they have added more nodes for ES, so it basically is a larger investment of amount of skill points now (if I understand the changes correctly).


I thought it was just that the current nodes with +es are buffed but either one is good. I like the idea in investing more points into like hp. It might be viable to get CI since you can get around the same amount of ES from the nodes themselves(probably less but still good). I would recommend getting CI towards the end and trying to judge if the trade of hp for CI is worth it.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
January 23 2013 19:08 GMT
#3578
On January 24 2013 04:05 Yacobs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 04:03 screamingpalm wrote:
On January 24 2013 03:59 Dacendoran wrote:
On January 24 2013 03:58 Obstikal wrote:
On January 24 2013 03:44 Isualin wrote:
i want to play a freezing pulse witch with chaos inoculation tonight. i will try it even though it's nerfed but do you have any suggestions?
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMA37BXK4IQB2NBlgel5oEFQgLjwFQRUH3SrrNJsrvWLJw74VZKjr7i920ZlQQRLacrwfOOPK-bfIOLeqKjw20XVJ6hzfp_xiKBuJMnqX5ZL50c3MHF6-4y0RHbFvMtRzgbLL-IQk-_hEhFR5I4M3YmPFBCkc_kEfIdHdlDVDyOtQSiLow2XcbkIg5IXfIC_nOz3fOOZOOEQsPfhPBrYG33pohrFee2-rb31U-ZmhEv3nfrY9WBsnVYGw==


This build doesnt seem to have too much survivability especially since CI wont have +es anymore I dont even know much valuable of a trade it is.. It seems like the dmg output will be good and will have okay res but I have a feeling you might die easily


So CI isn't going to have any added ES anymore, just immunity to chaos damage?


The CI keystoe passive doesn't, but they have added more nodes for ES, so it basically is a larger investment of amount of skill points now (if I understand the changes correctly).


No, that's not true. That was an old alpha version of the passive tree. Posters on their forum hinted that the OB will NOT have bonus ES passives like you saw.


Cheers. I might be slightly behind on the updates. ;D
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
Yacobs
Profile Joined March 2010
United States846 Posts
January 23 2013 19:11 GMT
#3579
Loading pages on their website is already kinda slow. For me, anyway. This launch could be semi-disastrous :p
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 19:15:10
January 23 2013 19:11 GMT
#3580
Convenient that I'm home sick today... think I'll try out this beta

Edit: Wow, webserver crash already xD Wonder if that has anything to do with the installer freezing at 75% on 'Allocating Space' for the last 10 minutes...
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