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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
October 18 2021 21:20 GMT
#33401
On October 19 2021 06:02 HolydaKing wrote:
PoB can be updated now btw. Updated my builds and I gotta say it's likely I'll start with the ignite build, although FP totems is also looking interesting to me. My Poisonous Concoction approximation build is the last build I converted, and I really like the utility of the masteries, but eh the dmg doesn't look too hot - I mean the number is decent but getting there takes some rampup time as it's usually the case for poison builds I guess.


Also poison melts your CPU. I remember complaining about low fps a few days into the league. I later realised when I switch between my chars that only my Cobra Lash char was having these issues...

I can't update my PoB btw. or do you need to do that manually?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 19 2021 05:57 GMT
#33402
You should be getting an update, unless you weren't using the community fork which would be a problem since a long time since the regular POB is not getting updated much.

The trees however changed much and you'll have to redo most of them. I had one build that crashed when I tried to load it, maybe that's what you mean?
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 07:23:10
October 19 2021 07:16 GMT
#33403
After some testing, "mana reservation efficiency" really is a lot better than previous "less mana reservation" at low inversion (if you are a aura bot or aura stacker is a lot worse).

Before if you allocated the sovereignty wheel you got 14% reduced mana reservation. Now you get in that same wheel (with the mastery) 43% reservation efficiency that according to PoB is the equivalent to 30% of the old reduced mana reservation.

Chaoslinger looking good for now, altough I'm still concerned about the previous league changes to mana cost on triggered spells.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 19 2021 07:50 GMT
#33404
On October 19 2021 16:16 haitike wrote:
After some testing, "mana reservation efficiency" really is a lot better than previous "less mana reservation" at low inversion (if you are a aura bot or aura stacker is a lot worse).

Before if you allocated the sovereignty wheel you got 14% reduced mana reservation. Now you get in that same wheel (with the mastery) 43% reservation efficiency that according to PoB is the equivalent to 30% of the old reduced mana reservation.

Chaoslinger looking good for now, altough I'm still concerned about the previous league changes to mana cost on triggered spells.

Yeah, I tried leveling Flameslinger and tbh you should be concerned. But: You can use a mana flask to fix the problem, and you most likely will have to - and an Enduring Flask will solve the problem. Much like Darkee's Toxic Rain build which is very mana hungry, he's using 2 mana flasks last I checked.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 19 2021 10:55 GMT
#33405
Can see that a new mastery give +3 level to critical support gems. Can't see any gems with that tag, anybody how knows what gems get it.
GO OG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 19 2021 10:59 GMT
#33406
On October 19 2021 19:55 Sapaio wrote:
Can see that a new mastery give +3 level to critical support gems. Can't see any gems with that tag, anybody how knows what gems get it.

It's in the patch:

This tag can be found on the following Skill Gems: Ambush, Assassin’s Mark, Battlemage’s Cry, Bladefall, Blade Vortex, Vaal Blade Vortex, Cobra Lash, Destructive Link, Dual Strike, Frost Shield, Ice Spear, Icicle Mine, Lightning Spire Trap, Lightning Trap, Vaal Lightning Trap, Precision, Power Siphon, Vaal Power Siphon, Summon Ice Golem, and Zealotry.

The tag can also be found on the following Support Gems: Cast On Critical Strike, Awakened Cast On Critical Strike, Charged Mines, Charged Traps, Controlled Destruction, Awakened Controlled Destruction, Critical Strike Affliction, Increased Critical Damage, Increased Critical Strikes, Inspiration, Nightblade, and Power Charge on Critical.

Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 19 2021 11:07 GMT
#33407
On October 19 2021 19:59 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2021 19:55 Sapaio wrote:
Can see that a new mastery give +3 level to critical support gems. Can't see any gems with that tag, anybody how knows what gems get it.

It's in the patch:

This tag can be found on the following Skill Gems: Ambush, Assassin’s Mark, Battlemage’s Cry, Bladefall, Blade Vortex, Vaal Blade Vortex, Cobra Lash, Destructive Link, Dual Strike, Frost Shield, Ice Spear, Icicle Mine, Lightning Spire Trap, Lightning Trap, Vaal Lightning Trap, Precision, Power Siphon, Vaal Power Siphon, Summon Ice Golem, and Zealotry.

The tag can also be found on the following Support Gems: Cast On Critical Strike, Awakened Cast On Critical Strike, Charged Mines, Charged Traps, Controlled Destruction, Awakened Controlled Destruction, Critical Strike Affliction, Increased Critical Damage, Increased Critical Strikes, Inspiration, Nightblade, and Power Charge on Critical.



Thanks, the mastery seems good, especially if you plan on using inspiration support as it get pretty massive improvement of mana spend before charges are lost.
GO OG
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 11:13:40
October 19 2021 11:13 GMT
#33408
its massive for awakened CoC. +3 gem levels increases the CDR. I don't really like playing CoC builds tho, don't feel like mathing out the breakpoints xD
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 19 2021 11:53 GMT
#33409
I the 3% chance for triple damage in two hand not just 9% more damage.
GO OG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 12:19:46
October 19 2021 12:01 GMT
#33410
On October 19 2021 20:53 Sapaio wrote:
I the 3% chance for triple damage in two hand not just 9% more damage.

Basically I guess, but a little more inconsistent and triple dmg is better for stun when it happens... ^^

Also for anyone doing an ignite build, keep in mind the gems weren't updated yet, while the ignite damage multiplier increase was. The damage in PoB is a lot higher than it should be for most fire gems such as Fireball, Incinerate and Flameblast.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10716 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 12:40:47
October 19 2021 12:40 GMT
#33411
Has anyone found anything that makes "Bane-LL-Occultist" sound unreasonable this league? So far i think i start with it. You can maybe even fit an Aura more into it than last league.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 12:53:02
October 19 2021 12:52 GMT
#33412
Not really, sounds like a good and fun build. I guess the build might be pretty expensive this league, lots of people will play chaos/poison builds and ES items and Shavronne's Wrappings will be more sought after than usual, and the later should be more rare considering the map where the div card for it drops the most got removed.
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-19 14:12:59
October 19 2021 14:10 GMT
#33413
I was playing that last league, pretty good. But you need ED for single target

https://pastebin.com/X2gGY1EE
n_n
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
October 19 2021 18:04 GMT
#33414
On October 19 2021 21:01 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2021 20:53 Sapaio wrote:
I the 3% chance for triple damage in two hand not just 9% more damage.

Basically I guess, but a little more inconsistent and triple dmg is better for stun when it happens... ^^

Also for anyone doing an ignite build, keep in mind the gems weren't updated yet, while the ignite damage multiplier increase was. The damage in PoB is a lot higher than it should be for most fire gems such as Fireball, Incinerate and Flameblast.


Good point, thank you. I was wondering why my ignite dps shot up x3 on spells that got adjusted. I was playing with some melee skills, too, though and those aren't affected and look pretty decent actually. I definitely won't start with Bleed Bow though. I hope I can still play it later but until the radii for jewels are not adjusted, it might get a big hit because all the big notables might be out of range of Lioneye's now...

I was able to update my PoB after I unchecked the box for "beta trial" on a hunch btw...
A Killer Cuppa Tea
Profile Joined December 2011
97 Posts
October 20 2021 11:54 GMT
#33415
I want to do a Mjollnr build with the new shield.

I started playing back in the day when Mjollnr was an amazing build, but i sucked and was never able to get to the point where i could have a functional Mjollnr build. By the time i was easily reaching endgame, Mjollnr was already not very good anymore, and i've always wanted to give it a try.

I onlt tend to run a single character in a league. Does anyone have any idea what will end up being the best class to be using Mjollnr+the new shield in the endgame?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-20 13:24:24
October 20 2021 13:21 GMT
#33416
Inquisitor or Elementalist, probably Inquisitor. With Inquisitor you can ignore enemy jresists, go hybrid life / ES with Glorious Vanity (Doryani) and have a ton of hybrid regeneration, enough to go perma Righteous Fire for extra spell damage if done right. But tbh I don't know how much investment Mjolner is these days and if you can even do what I described, but with good gear I'd guess so, and honestly I would expect both the new shield and Mjolner to be really expensive anyway (Mjolner still is T1 rarity afaik, if just couple hundred people wanna use it it's gonna be expensive). The shield has way more good uses than just Mjolner too, for example Poet's Pen.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 20 2021 15:09 GMT
#33417
If I use stormfire ring with a skill that deal both fire and lightning damage. Would the ignite be calculated as one big ignite or two smaller ignites with only the biggest dealing damage?
GO OG
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 20 2021 15:40 GMT
#33418
On October 21 2021 00:09 Sapaio wrote:
If I use stormfire ring with a skill that deal both fire and lightning damage. Would the ignite be calculated as one big ignite or two smaller ignites with only the biggest dealing damage?

I take it the question is for non-elementalist, since with that one everything ignites. If so, if both damage types are applied at the same time, it should be one big ignite.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 20 2021 16:36 GMT
#33419
Regarding the new shield rippling thoughts seems like a fun choice with it.
GO OG
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2713 Posts
October 20 2021 17:00 GMT
#33420
I want to try the new shield with Arakaali spiders, but probably I will wait for a second character.
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