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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5262 Posts
October 17 2021 04:27 GMT
#33381
Alchemist's prefix + Enkindling Orbs makes this completely bonkers. someone posted some math on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/q9lgcn/mageblood_belt_math_a_build_your_own_ascendency/

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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 17 2021 04:59 GMT
#33382
Think the immune are not going to work as they required use, and you can not use them.
GO OG
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22704 Posts
October 17 2021 09:22 GMT
#33383
Yeah, because flasks are no longer 'immune during duration' but 'immune for x if used while' they may well not work.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
October 17 2021 12:28 GMT
#33384
There are two types of immunity on flasks now. Some are duration, some are on use.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2745 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-17 17:34:11
October 17 2021 12:32 GMT
#33385
Yes, I think they already said that in the manifesto that they were (re)adding the immunity ones (keeping the duration ones from 3.15) but it was not totally clear for everyone.

by the way, looking at the chaos masteries:
https://i.redd.it/9fxsqbbefvt71.jpg

Chaoslinger should ignore the life/es lose (while keeping the +1 to chaos gems) because the skill that you use for attacking (barrage, frenzy, power siphon, etc.) does not have the chaos tag? Am I right?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-17 13:42:57
October 17 2021 13:38 GMT
#33386
Before the last league (or rather the current league; it's already over for me lol) I would have said yes, no doubt. But with the last league triggering means you have to pay for the mana cost as well, and I don't know if they made it so that triggering means "using a chaos spell" in this case as well.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
October 17 2021 14:03 GMT
#33387
Also not 100% sure but usually triggered effects never trigger "when you use" effects.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-17 15:40:55
October 17 2021 15:40 GMT
#33388
17% chaos res seems very low for a mastery. Small nodes on the tree currently give 12%, so I was expecting at least 25%. Meanwhile, the Brand mastery and Flask Mastery seem really juicy.

Apparently, still at least another day before passive tree/masteries.

Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
October 17 2021 15:56 GMT
#33389
On October 18 2021 00:40 Pwere wrote:
17% chaos res seems very low for a mastery. Small nodes on the tree currently give 12%, so I was expecting at least 25%. Meanwhile, the Brand mastery and Flask Mastery seem really juicy.

Apparently, still at least another day before passive tree/masteries.



One of the pictured showed a mastery that gave 15 ele and 15 chaos res, so yeah, just 17 chaos res seems very weak.

Where did you get the information on the release date for the passive tree from?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-17 16:37:46
October 17 2021 16:30 GMT
#33390
I would not go as far as to say that 17% chaos res is weak - it's really not. It costs one point, just like the other nodes in the passive tree. Sure, you most likely won't take it, but it's not worse than some of the other stuff. Like remove a random ailment when you use a mana flask... Surely doesn't sound appealing.

On October 18 2021 00:56 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2021 00:40 Pwere wrote:
17% chaos res seems very low for a mastery. Small nodes on the tree currently give 12%, so I was expecting at least 25%. Meanwhile, the Brand mastery and Flask Mastery seem really juicy.

Apparently, still at least another day before passive tree/masteries.



One of the pictured showed a mastery that gave 15 ele and 15 chaos res, so yeah, just 17 chaos res seems very weak.

Where did you get the information on the release date for the passive tree from?

Unless he got some new info, it could get released anywhere from in like 4 hours to Wednesday (NZT).
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-17 17:50:33
October 17 2021 17:49 GMT
#33391
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
October 18 2021 04:24 GMT
#33392
Passive tree & masteries are out.

Warcries, daggers and life all seem pretty insane!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-18 09:47:24
October 18 2021 09:30 GMT
#33393
Seems like the changes to the tree (if the scuffed version on reddit is right and it looks legit) are more massive than I thought - will have to wait for PoB to see if the masteries and the new tree are actually buffs for the build I wanted to play, but probably.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2745 Posts
October 18 2021 09:33 GMT
#33394
For now you can see the masteries here:

https://poedb.tw/us/Passive_mastery
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 18 2021 10:37 GMT
#33395
On October 18 2021 18:33 haitike wrote:
For now you can see the masteries here:

https://poedb.tw/us/Passive_mastery


Thanks, this maybe a stupid questions. But you only need one point in the mastery node to select use it?
So i can get this from axe and it works with other bleeds
Bleeding you inflict deals Damage 15% faster

GO OG
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2745 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-18 11:13:24
October 18 2021 11:12 GMT
#33396
On October 18 2021 19:37 Sapaio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2021 18:33 haitike wrote:
For now you can see the masteries here:

https://poedb.tw/us/Passive_mastery


Thanks, this maybe a stupid questions. But you only need one point in the mastery node to select use it?
So i can get this from axe and it works with other bleeds
Show nested quote +
Bleeding you inflict deals Damage 15% faster



The mastery node costs 1 point. To unlock it you must have chosen a notable node in the wheel.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 18 2021 12:17 GMT
#33397
On October 18 2021 20:12 haitike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2021 19:37 Sapaio wrote:
On October 18 2021 18:33 haitike wrote:
For now you can see the masteries here:

https://poedb.tw/us/Passive_mastery


Thanks, this maybe a stupid questions. But you only need one point in the mastery node to select use it?
So i can get this from axe and it works with other bleeds
Bleeding you inflict deals Damage 15% faster



The mastery node costs 1 point. To unlock it you must have chosen a notable node in the wheel.

Right, keep in mind annointing does not unlock the mastery and I'd assume neither do things like Thread of Hope
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-18 13:10:41
October 18 2021 12:36 GMT
#33398
Looking at the tree, it seems like they nerfed some builds pretty hard. MoM and mines, in particular, seem much weaker after the changes. Then blind is now about +11% EHP vs atks (instead of 100%), and Vaal Grace is basically dead. Champ got nerfed as well, as it only gets 20 stacks of fortify, not max.

The winners seem to be poison, ES, and brands.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-18 13:58:33
October 18 2021 12:46 GMT
#33399
On October 18 2021 21:36 Pwere wrote:
Looking at the tree, it seems like they nerfed some builds pretty hard. MoM and mines, in particular, seem much weaker after the changes. Then blind is now about +11% EHP vs atks (instead of 100%), and Vaal Grace is basically dead. Champ got nerfed as well, as it only gets 20 stacks of fortify, not max.

The winners seem to be poison, ES, brands and trap.

If using a staff, mines (as well as totems and traps) get 60% crit multi though, pretty huge.

I think you can add spell totems to the buffed list, the location of the totem nodes seem better now.

Btw, Poisonous Concoction is confirmed to not use anything flask related from items or cluster jewels.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-18 21:09:58
October 18 2021 21:02 GMT
#33400
PoB can be updated now btw. Updated my builds and I gotta say it's likely I'll start with the ignite build, although FP totems is also looking interesting to me. My Poisonous Concoction approximation build is the last build I converted, and I really like the utility of the masteries, but eh the dmg doesn't look too hot - I mean the numbers are decent but getting there takes some ramp up time as it's usually the case for poison builds I guess.
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