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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-15 19:51:51
October 15 2021 19:49 GMT
#33361
On October 16 2021 04:31 Miragee wrote:
What's a 2 point weta? o.O I'm planning to buy a supporter pack this time arround because I haven't bought one the last 2 leagues so I will have more points to spend. I don't know on what though yet...

It's a pet (usually 5pts, atm 2), looks pretty much like on the english wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wētā

Also I think elemental minion builds such as Skele mage builds will suffer a lot from no more EE...
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 15 2021 19:51 GMT
#33362
On October 16 2021 04:31 Miragee wrote:
What's a 2 point weta? o.O I'm planning to buy a supporter pack this time arround because I haven't bought one the last 2 leagues so I will have more points to spend. I don't know on what though yet...


The cheapest thing in the store so you can get a mystery box

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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 15 2021 20:00 GMT
#33363
I haven't really succeeded in creating my own successful build in poe. And it's something I really want to achieve.
I got a couple of ideas of this league.
First I think there already is Doryani prototype build, and I called it good this league as it easy to lower resistance this league and get some kind of benifit in return. So would combine it with inquisitor CnC and Mjöjlner. Not sure original but kinda what I came up with.

The other thing I have been thinking of is elementalist with lighting ignite and golems. But with Black Cane and The Scourge, and having golems spawn Phantasmes and give more spell damage via Black Cane. Also increased Damage via the scourged. Not sure if you guys have any experience using it and how many phantasm I can keep up in boss fights, but of me it seems like one of highest spell damage buff I could get.
GO OG
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
October 15 2021 23:48 GMT
#33364
On October 16 2021 04:31 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2021 04:28 -Archangel- wrote:
On October 15 2021 20:50 haitike wrote:
They posted the patch notes one week before other times, so probably they will release the tree data soon. So PoB guys have a week for working. They really have a lot of work this time.

I will wait too befofre planning my league starter. For now i'm between chaoslinger or a ignite build (hexblast, earthquake or Armageddon Brand). They look good for the scourge mass demons.

The league looks dope.

Earthquake is melee, how is that good for Ignite? Will Armageddon Brand be able to use new EE or EO?
Hexblast might be interesting? Does it have good base damage? What kind of damage does it do? Can it be used to activate EE?


Earth Quake has very high base damage and damage effectiveness. With the changes to ignite, a big hit, either converted or with elementalist or both, could give you a lot of burning damage.

Armageddon Brand will be able to use EO, yes. It was never able to use EE without Malachai's Artifice and that will still be viable. Depending on your class, EE will probably be to far away now anyways, especially with the nerfs it got.

from what I understand, skils that aren't inherently ignite boost got a massive 150% more ignite this patch? so while arma brand and fireball got their more ignite mods decreased, stuff like EQ are open season.

seems strong, though I'm thinking of just going Phys DoT or Chaos DoT, since they also benefit from the item+passive tree boosts. Might be generic but I'm thinking of going classic ED Contagion, it's been a few years since I played it. Wicked Ward + faster energy charge should make the occultist version tanky AF
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Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
October 16 2021 12:07 GMT
#33365
Flaskfinder with the new chaos flask skill sounds neat, well themed.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-16 12:26:05
October 16 2021 12:25 GMT
#33366
On October 16 2021 21:07 Duvon wrote:
Flaskfinder with the new chaos flask skill sounds neat, well themed.

I agree, it's just we need to know more about how it will work. I guess the only way it's not completely busted, and as such the likely way, is that you can't scale the damage through life flask recovery from the passive tree. That way you would need to scale it crafting the flask and getting projectile/chaos/poison/attack speed/accuracy stuff on the passive tree. The other way life flask recovery and flask duration clusters would add a shit ton of flat chaos scaling, which is why I doubt it's working like that.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
October 16 2021 12:52 GMT
#33367
On October 16 2021 21:25 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2021 21:07 Duvon wrote:
Flaskfinder with the new chaos flask skill sounds neat, well themed.

I agree, it's just we need to know more about how it will work. I guess the only way it's not completely busted, and as such the likely way, is that you can't scale the damage through life flask recovery from the passive tree. That way you would need to scale it crafting the flask and getting projectile/chaos/poison/attack speed/accuracy stuff on the passive tree. The other way life flask recovery and flask duration clusters would add a shit ton of flat chaos scaling, which is why I doubt it's working like that.


It would be super boring and probably pretty bad if it wasn't scalable via flask effect/recovery from the tree. 3% is basically nothing on just a well rolled flask unless the base damage of the gem scales super well with levels.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-16 12:58:14
October 16 2021 12:55 GMT
#33368
On October 16 2021 21:52 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2021 21:25 HolydaKing wrote:
On October 16 2021 21:07 Duvon wrote:
Flaskfinder with the new chaos flask skill sounds neat, well themed.

I agree, it's just we need to know more about how it will work. I guess the only way it's not completely busted, and as such the likely way, is that you can't scale the damage through life flask recovery from the passive tree. That way you would need to scale it crafting the flask and getting projectile/chaos/poison/attack speed/accuracy stuff on the passive tree. The other way life flask recovery and flask duration clusters would add a shit ton of flat chaos scaling, which is why I doubt it's working like that.


It would be super boring and probably pretty bad if it wasn't scalable via flask effect/recovery from the tree. 3% is basically nothing on just a well rolled flask unless the base damage of the gem scales super well with levels.

I would assume it's scaling about as much as Dark Pact does, and maybe the 3% goes up to 6%. Keep in mind that you can use GMP and Dying Sun and the skill shotguns.

It would certainly be more interesting otherwise, but I think it would be pretty OP.
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
October 16 2021 16:10 GMT
#33369
Do we think skills like Concoction and Molten Strike can hit/shotgun Tornado, even though they don't really collide with it?
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-16 16:46:35
October 16 2021 16:36 GMT
#33370
I am sure the projectile part of molten strike should work with it.
I find the link skills interesting especially the intuitive link. Where you can use spells that need close range from a distance.

Edit if linked with blade vortex would it spawn on you or linked target.
GO OG
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
October 16 2021 16:56 GMT
#33371
On October 17 2021 01:10 Pwere wrote:
Do we think skills like Concoction and Molten Strike can hit/shotgun Tornado, even though they don't really collide with it?


What do you mean they don't collide with it? Iirc Molten Strike projectile collided with walls when I played so why wouldn't it collide with Tornado?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 16 2021 17:02 GMT
#33372
On October 17 2021 01:36 Sapaio wrote:
I am sure the projectile part of molten strike should work with it.
I find the link skills interesting especially the intuitive link. Where you can use spells that need close range from a distance.

Edit if linked with blade vortex would it spawn on you or linked target.

Maybe it doesn't work, but if it does work, then it should spawn on the linked target
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-16 17:39:43
October 16 2021 17:39 GMT
#33373
Feel the uniques in this league are close to broken. The new belt with 4 perma up utility flask seem insane, I wonder if you can actually use 4 times increased elemental resistance to give you 120 resistance or am I miss understanding the item, plus the effect of the flask itself.
GO OG
Pwere
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-10-16 17:47:36
October 16 2021 17:45 GMT
#33374
On October 17 2021 01:56 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2021 01:10 Pwere wrote:
Do we think skills like Concoction and Molten Strike can hit/shotgun Tornado, even though they don't really collide with it?


What do you mean they don't collide with it? Iirc Molten Strike projectile collided with walls when I played so why wouldn't it collide with Tornado?
They don't collide with enemies, they hit the ground and the aoe hits the enemies. Blazing Salvo can do both, so it should work, but it's really not clear what actually hits Tornado. Can Ball Lightning attack it? Magma Orb? Rain of Arrows? Pyroclast?

The numbers on Tornado seem really good otherwise, though the reflected dmg part likely doesn't scale with anything (except duration?)
On October 17 2021 02:39 Sapaio wrote:
Feel the uniques in this league are close to broken. The new belt with 4 perma up utility flask seem insane, I wonder if you can actually use 4 times increased elemental resistance to give you 120 resistance or am I miss understanding the item, plus the effect of the flask itself.
Absolutely. The 4 annoint amulet can likely be double corrupt into an influenced rare, keeping its annoints. The belt is nuts, the time rift chest is intriguing, and there are a few more we haven't seen yet...
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
October 16 2021 17:52 GMT
#33375
On October 17 2021 02:45 Pwere wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2021 01:56 Miragee wrote:
On October 17 2021 01:10 Pwere wrote:
Do we think skills like Concoction and Molten Strike can hit/shotgun Tornado, even though they don't really collide with it?


What do you mean they don't collide with it? Iirc Molten Strike projectile collided with walls when I played so why wouldn't it collide with Tornado?
They don't collide with enemies, they hit the ground and the aoe hits the enemies. Blazing Salvo can do both, so it should work, but it's really not clear what actually hits Tornado. Can Ball Lightning attack it? Magma Orb? Rain of Arrows? Pyroclast?

The numbers on Tornado seem really good otherwise, though the reflected dmg part likely doesn't scale with anything (except duration?)
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2021 02:39 Sapaio wrote:
Feel the uniques in this league are close to broken. The new belt with 4 perma up utility flask seem insane, I wonder if you can actually use 4 times increased elemental resistance to give you 120 resistance or am I miss understanding the item, plus the effect of the flask itself.
Absolutely. The 4 annoint amulet can likely be double corrupt into an influenced rare, keeping its annoints. The belt is nuts, the time rift chest is intriguing, and there are a few more we haven't seen yet...


Molten Strike projectiles can chain though, doesn't that mean they need to collide with enemies to do that (I have no idea but it would make sense in my head...)?

The uniques are nuts but I expect them to be of similar rarity as Headhunter, which would be fine in my eyes.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 16 2021 18:00 GMT
#33376
On October 17 2021 02:52 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2021 02:45 Pwere wrote:
On October 17 2021 01:56 Miragee wrote:
On October 17 2021 01:10 Pwere wrote:
Do we think skills like Concoction and Molten Strike can hit/shotgun Tornado, even though they don't really collide with it?


What do you mean they don't collide with it? Iirc Molten Strike projectile collided with walls when I played so why wouldn't it collide with Tornado?
They don't collide with enemies, they hit the ground and the aoe hits the enemies. Blazing Salvo can do both, so it should work, but it's really not clear what actually hits Tornado. Can Ball Lightning attack it? Magma Orb? Rain of Arrows? Pyroclast?

The numbers on Tornado seem really good otherwise, though the reflected dmg part likely doesn't scale with anything (except duration?)
On October 17 2021 02:39 Sapaio wrote:
Feel the uniques in this league are close to broken. The new belt with 4 perma up utility flask seem insane, I wonder if you can actually use 4 times increased elemental resistance to give you 120 resistance or am I miss understanding the item, plus the effect of the flask itself.
Absolutely. The 4 annoint amulet can likely be double corrupt into an influenced rare, keeping its annoints. The belt is nuts, the time rift chest is intriguing, and there are a few more we haven't seen yet...


Molten Strike projectiles can chain though, doesn't that mean they need to collide with enemies to do that (I have no idea but it would make sense in my head...)?

The uniques are nuts but I expect them to be of similar rarity as Headhunter, which would be fine in my eyes.


And here I was looking forward to using the amulet and belt.
GO OG
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
October 16 2021 20:07 GMT
#33377
On October 17 2021 03:00 Sapaio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2021 02:52 Miragee wrote:
On October 17 2021 02:45 Pwere wrote:
On October 17 2021 01:56 Miragee wrote:
On October 17 2021 01:10 Pwere wrote:
Do we think skills like Concoction and Molten Strike can hit/shotgun Tornado, even though they don't really collide with it?


What do you mean they don't collide with it? Iirc Molten Strike projectile collided with walls when I played so why wouldn't it collide with Tornado?
They don't collide with enemies, they hit the ground and the aoe hits the enemies. Blazing Salvo can do both, so it should work, but it's really not clear what actually hits Tornado. Can Ball Lightning attack it? Magma Orb? Rain of Arrows? Pyroclast?

The numbers on Tornado seem really good otherwise, though the reflected dmg part likely doesn't scale with anything (except duration?)
On October 17 2021 02:39 Sapaio wrote:
Feel the uniques in this league are close to broken. The new belt with 4 perma up utility flask seem insane, I wonder if you can actually use 4 times increased elemental resistance to give you 120 resistance or am I miss understanding the item, plus the effect of the flask itself.
Absolutely. The 4 annoint amulet can likely be double corrupt into an influenced rare, keeping its annoints. The belt is nuts, the time rift chest is intriguing, and there are a few more we haven't seen yet...


Molten Strike projectiles can chain though, doesn't that mean they need to collide with enemies to do that (I have no idea but it would make sense in my head...)?

The uniques are nuts but I expect them to be of similar rarity as Headhunter, which would be fine in my eyes.


And here I was looking forward to using the amulet and belt.


Yeah, don't plan with that. I mean, I could be wrong here but after all the interviews with Chris, it is pretty clear to me that they wouldn't put in super OP uniques unless they are basically unobtainable.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
October 16 2021 21:50 GMT
#33378
I mean, if the belt doesn't have some unforeseeable drawbacks, it's the absolute nuts. If it's as rare as HH, it'll likely be more expensive.
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
October 17 2021 02:46 GMT
#33379
It's completely insane and I think it will be at least as rare as HH. it could even be rarer. Is Atziri's Mirror prophecy more rare than HH? I can imagine it being at that tier.

I think this belt is stronger than HH, because HH is mainly a "win more" belt (rofl stomp maps) while flask belt can carry you in the hardest content (The Feared, new uber content)

They released Chaos masterieis. I think I'm actually rolling ED Contagion lol. Hope I don't get bored, if I do maybe I'll switch to Blight CwC
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Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
October 17 2021 03:22 GMT
#33380
So I looked at the affix wording, and only draw back of belt I can find as that on use effect will not work, besides that it doesn't work on unique flask.
Scrolled through the modes on crafting site to see what you can get. Noticed that there a delved mods. So you can get some insane stuff like mana cost reduced 100% and 60% of damage taken regained as life lech, or 12% life regen with 4 x same mod. And that is without increased effect of flask.
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