• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:44
CEST 01:44
KST 08:44
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2914Serral wins Maestros of the Game 243ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7Code S Season 2 (2026): RO4 and Finals Preview12
Community News
Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format13[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend!5Weekly Cups (July 6 - 12): Protoss strike back12BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8BSL Season 22 Full Overview & Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Latest hotfix to Patch 5.0.16 Reynor: GSL Loss Wasn't About Preparation Format Is the larve respawn broken? 5.0.16 patch for SC2 goes live (8 worker start) BGE Stara Zagora to be held again in June 2025
Tourneys
Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) WardiTV Summer Cup 2026 GSL CK #5 Race War RSL Revival: Season 6 - Qualifiers and Main Event HomeStory Cup 29
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
New Map Maker - Looking for Advice - Love or Hate Work In Progress Melee Maps [D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 534 Burning Evacuation Mutation # 533 Die Together Mutation # 532 Nuclear Family
Brood War
General
Etiquete rules in Asl? Recommended FPV games (post-KeSPA) Pros Debate: Zerg Unfairly Nerfed? (ASL S22 map) BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ screpdb: new Starcraft reporting tool
Tourneys
[IPSL] Spring 2026 Grand Finals - This Weekend! Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Wildcard Qualifier
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Creating a full chart of Zerg builds Relatively freeroll strategies
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Summer Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Looking for a Dota Mentor Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread UK Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The HerO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion! Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 McBoner: A hockey love story Tennis[sport] Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop How to clean a TTe Thermaltake keyboard?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Poker (part 2)
Nebuchad
The Experiences We Want and …
TrAiDoS
An Exploration of th…
waywardstrategy
Gauntlet SC2: A Retrospectiv…
Ctone23
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6317 users

Path of Exile - Page 1520

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 1518 1519 1520 1521 1522 1758 Next
Guild invites: Message any of EvoSenseOfPride, ScionViableORly, neophyteWham, TheTouchOfGOLD in game
OR
post your character name in the thread and ask for an invite
Private league ladder (finished): https://www.pathofexile.com/private-leagues/league/TeamLiquid and friends
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 15 2019 11:17 GMT
#30381
On March 15 2019 20:12 ThaddeusK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2019 17:18 HolydaKing wrote:
The recent change discussed here makes the memory nexus even less rewarding. At this point I don't blame anyone for skipping it completely until GGG buffs the rewards. I found the bugs even more annoying so I'm glad they were and are fixing them, but as it is the memory nexus is still not fun imo (and the crazy dmg mods on a lot of zones don't help).


Just don't hit the stabilizer at the end of a reward node and it works the same as before

Really? Need to try that. Cool tip if true, helps a bit.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
March 15 2019 11:40 GMT
#30382
The league is so boring I can't even motivate myself to play the 2 builds I wanted to play this league: ED and WI.

ED is broken as fuck but so are the other 2 chaos spells and why would I want to press another button (also the pierce change).

And for Whispering Ice I could just play standard and have more fun
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3271 Posts
March 15 2019 12:42 GMT
#30383
Is there a way to farm vaal skills/predict the spawn pattern? Feels like I always could have 2-3 more vaal skills and amp my burst a bit.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10924 Posts
March 15 2019 13:28 GMT
#30384
Use your Vaal Fragments in the map device?
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
March 15 2019 13:53 GMT
#30385
uh, use vaal orb on gems?
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 15:53:13
March 15 2019 15:48 GMT
#30386
On March 15 2019 20:40 clusen wrote:
The league is so boring I can't even motivate myself to play the 2 builds I wanted to play this league: ED and WI.

ED is broken as fuck but so are the other 2 chaos spells and why would I want to press another button (also the pierce change).

And for Whispering Ice I could just play standard and have more fun

League is a bit better than last one because Syndicate is not hounding you on every map and Snooze(Synth) league can be ignored by ignoring the old pervert. Then we can have fun with real new content - new skills.

Advantage over Standard is access to live economy and a whole bunch of new stash tabs that you can fill with stuff (my standard stash tabs are filled with shit and I cba to empty them).

I just wish GGG would figure out that all the new league mechanics they invent every 3 months are crap designed, crap implemented and crap tested. Better if they just add some new bosses and more new skills to play with
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 16:09:16
March 15 2019 15:53 GMT
#30387
On March 15 2019 20:17 HolydaKing wrote:
Really? Need to try that. Cool tip if true, helps a bit.

Even before the change there was no reason to hit the stabilizer in distant memories. There's no benefit to teleporting all the loot to the stabilizer and not the entrance because you could accidentally walk off and lose all the loot.

All that changes is that it's more punishing to accidentally misclick that stabilizer, it doesn't make the nexus any more or less rewarding.

IMO the worst part about this league is still the bugs. I don't actually hate the core gameplay loop for the Memory Nexus, but the fact that they've "fixed" the nexus TP two separate times and it *still* frequently bugs out is pretty inexcusable. I've been fortunate enough to not have the reported performance hiccups on Betrayal encounters, but those have got to suck for people who get them too.
Moderator
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
March 15 2019 16:23 GMT
#30388
I like synthesis but it definitely shows that these new highly complex leagues are too big to fit in their 3 month league schedule. Chris Wilson basically confirmed on baeclast that they are making large changes to the league right up to the last minute, which is clearly going to result in bugs/poor tuning. That said, I'm not sure if its really a viable option for them to have every other league be filler or to extend the leagues by a month or something like that, people already lose interest extremely quickly so it's not crazy to be concerned that if they slow down the content speed people will simply stop coming back.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
March 15 2019 16:25 GMT
#30389
On March 16 2019 00:48 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2019 20:40 clusen wrote:
The league is so boring I can't even motivate myself to play the 2 builds I wanted to play this league: ED and WI.

ED is broken as fuck but so are the other 2 chaos spells and why would I want to press another button (also the pierce change).

And for Whispering Ice I could just play standard and have more fun

League is a bit better than last one because Syndicate is not hounding you on every map and Snooze(Synth) league can be ignored by ignoring the old pervert. Then we can have fun with real new content - new skills.

Advantage over Standard is access to live economy and a whole bunch of new stash tabs that you can fill with stuff (my standard stash tabs are filled with shit and I cba to empty them).

I just wish GGG would figure out that all the new league mechanics they invent every 3 months are crap designed, crap implemented and crap tested. Better if they just add some new bosses and more new skills to play with

I'm playing SSF and I already ignored the league mechanic on my most decked out char in Betrayal.

@ Yango
Weren't you forced to just take the reward and jump into the blue anyways if you wanted to continue your path?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 16:32:48
March 15 2019 16:31 GMT
#30390
On March 16 2019 01:25 clusen wrote:
@ Yango
Weren't you forced to just take the reward and jump into the blue anyways if you wanted to continue your path?

You had to jump into the blue, but you always got teleported back to the entrance even if you hit the stabilizer at the reward node, so even if you accidentally hit the stabilizer you could continue the run. Now hitting the stabilizer kills your run.

Basically hitting the stabilizer was always useless, it's just a big trap now.
Moderator
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
March 15 2019 16:36 GMT
#30391
On March 16 2019 01:31 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2019 01:25 clusen wrote:
@ Yango
Weren't you forced to just take the reward and jump into the blue anyways if you wanted to continue your path?

You had to jump into the blue, but you always got teleported back to the entrance even if you hit the stabilizer at the reward node, so even if you accidentally hit the stabilizer you could continue the run. Now hitting the stabilizer kills your run.

Basically hitting the stabilizer was always useless, it's just a big trap now.

IIRC when I was using the stabilizer next to a reward it just collapsed the memory and I had to tp back to the Nexus, which is why I started jumping into the blue in the first place
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 15 2019 16:44 GMT
#30392
Prior to this last patch, you could hit the stabilizer by the reward, and then jump into the blue after to get ported back to the entrance. The patch made it so that hitting the stabilizer checkpoints you there.
Moderator
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 15 2019 16:46 GMT
#30393
On March 16 2019 01:23 ThaddeusK wrote:
I like synthesis but it definitely shows that these new highly complex leagues are too big to fit in their 3 month league schedule. Chris Wilson basically confirmed on baeclast that they are making large changes to the league right up to the last minute, which is clearly going to result in bugs/poor tuning. That said, I'm not sure if its really a viable option for them to have every other league be filler or to extend the leagues by a month or something like that, people already lose interest extremely quickly so it's not crazy to be concerned that if they slow down the content speed people will simply stop coming back.

True. Well, I personally wish they'd either go back to a 4 month league schedule OR stop bringing complex and massive content each league. Once in a while they could make a less gamechanging league that doesn't add more stuff to maps, like Nemesis or Bloodlines, simply altering some monsters. Since that most probably takes less ressources they could at the same time already work on a next big league. But I guess they're too scared that people are leaving Path of Exile if they don't bring more and more content.

This league had way too many annoying bugs (memory nexus tp was the worst one imo) when they released it and still has some, which already resulted in a huge drop of players (see reddit). Maximizing profits in the nexus is also pretty time consuming and is much less rewarding than mapping (got that from reddit as well, but it's also my feeling so far), which does not make people look forward to playing it. It certainly does not help they added Betrayal to the core game in it's current state, it's a fucking disaster in terms of how long it takes to get a safehouse and unlocking recipes.

I'm still enjoying the new skills, testing Divine Ire right and it's pretty busted compared to Spark from which I respecced.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
March 15 2019 16:58 GMT
#30394
I found the simpler leagues like Bloodlines or Breach to be more gamechanging than Synthesis now - because they altered the tempo of the game and played differently (atleast the encounter themselves)

Synthesis is the same thing you do in standard, in maps you get a shitty incursion and then you have a shitty version of the atlas with smaller maps and more micromanagement.

@Yango
Sounds intuitive.
Is there a benefit for either of those versions over just porting you back to the entry point after you hit the stabilizer next to the rewards ?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 17:21:48
March 15 2019 17:20 GMT
#30395
The benefit is in clearing non-reward decaying nodes (i.e. memory nodes with 1 charge left). You can hit the stabilizer leading to the path you want to continue on to, then jump back in and clear the rest of the node without worrying that you'll get trapped by decay in a spot where you can't return to the stabilizer.

It offers absolutely no benefit for reward nodes which are dead-ends anyway. I get why they made the change, but the behavior currently in the game is either unintentional (since the patch notes say that it should work on "placed" nodes and doesn't mention naturally-spawning reward nodes) or just the dumbest way to fix this problem.
Moderator
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3271 Posts
March 15 2019 18:37 GMT
#30396
On March 15 2019 22:53 Warri wrote:
uh, use vaal orb on gems?

Didn't know you could do that xD

Thanks!
low gravity, yes-yes!
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 20:11:08
March 15 2019 20:10 GMT
#30397
On March 16 2019 01:23 ThaddeusK wrote:
I like synthesis but it definitely shows that these new highly complex leagues are too big to fit in their 3 month league schedule. Chris Wilson basically confirmed on baeclast that they are making large changes to the league right up to the last minute, which is clearly going to result in bugs/poor tuning. That said, I'm not sure if its really a viable option for them to have every other league be filler or to extend the leagues by a month or something like that, people already lose interest extremely quickly so it's not crazy to be concerned that if they slow down the content speed people will simply stop coming back.

And how many people are like me and are thinking of not coming back exactly because of these half baked and implemented league mechanics?

I don't even know why I came back for this league, I said before I would skip it.. now I am thinking I probably should have.

At this point I am thinking of going back to Grim Dawn or even Diablo 2. I just want to kill shit and collect loot and have fun.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 20:36:42
March 15 2019 20:27 GMT
#30398
On March 16 2019 05:10 -Archangel- wrote:
At this point I am thinking of going back to Grim Dawn or even Diablo 2. I just want to kill shit and collect loot and have fun.

I'm doing a lot of that in Synthesis and it's working just fine lol

The backlash against this league has been really bizarre to me. I get being frustrated at unintuitive or buggy league mechanics. Criticism and HOPING for improvements is great. But a lot of the rage sounds more broadly like "I'm just bored of PoE and they keep making me play every league". I played very little last league. Didn't enjoy it. I know a lot of people still did. That's fine. I saw some wild stronghold shit in highlights. It's cool, I needed a break, which I didn't fully appreciate until I actually took one. Synthesis seems to have really galvanized the "I just want to play the game but they keep doing dumb shit" crowd, when I'm "just playing the game" perfectly fine and ignoring anything that bugs me about the nexus or things that break from hotfix to hotfix and still having a blast.

I'm not picking on anyone in this thread in particular. I've seen a lot of the same backlash and criticism across several platforms. I just think it's really weird and oddly specific. I don't think Synthesis has been their strongest league mechanic idea ever or anything, but I think a few league launches in the past year or so have gone way worse than this one did, and I didn't see anywhere near the same amount of criticism. Idk. Maybe I'm just coincidentally noticing it this time around, and before I just wasn't paying as much attention. It's a catch 22 for GGG. Get creative with league mechanics and you get this crowd that screams "stop FORCING me to do your confusing BROKEN new stuff, I just want to play the game". Make another breach league and you'd have a ton of people saying they're bored or reminiscing about temporary/race leagues with all the extra modifiers or whatever idk.

I haven't fucked that much with the nexus just because it feels slightly distracting, but when I do I understand what's going on for the most part. Like Delve or Incursion or Betrayal, the nexus stuff is probably fun and rewarding if you like or or are clever with it, but also avoidable if you don't like (or if you just want to wait a week til they iron out the kinks). And at worst the extra memory in each map is just lots of bonus mobs / pack size, not unlike incursion. And I'm having the most fun I've had in quite a while with Bane Trickster. The idea of completely switching games just to get that "simple experience" you're craving, when you can easily ignore and skip everything related to Synthesis, Incursion, Delving, Betrayal and Syndicate stuff for the most part (rip performance issues tho), just feels like you need a change of pace from PoE itself, rather than GGG actively RUINING your experience or whatever. I'm sure there are plenty of folks out there making a killing from just mapping and atlas things.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2866 Posts
March 15 2019 20:41 GMT
#30399
I'm in a simliar boat to Duka08 - I'm not super enthusiastic about the Nexus mechanic (and a bit frustrated by some of its bugs, like the portal issues), but I'm still having a good time, even if I'm playing 90% "standard with extra side areas."

I personally would like to see a more chill league mechanic soon, to allow for more focus on polishing up the now-core previous league mechanics, but I think it's true that if they actually did this, Reddit would be complaining about how boring and underwhelming it was.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
March 15 2019 20:46 GMT
#30400
It feels odd to me how PoE gives us all these slightly different takes on mechanics but (delve, maps, memories), but that you can't really focus on the one you want over the others.

I could imagine like a 4.0.0 world where instead of mapping being the main post-game mechanic and having that fuel delve and memories if you could just have all three as first class citizens post-game and let people gravitate towards the one(s) that appeal to them or suit their build better.
Logo
Prev 1 1518 1519 1520 1521 1522 1758 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 16m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft589
CosmosSc2 61
Nina 30
Temp0 21
PattyMac 11
Dota 2
Trikslyr57
Counter-Strike
summit1g6658
minikerr33
Super Smash Bros
PPMD31
Other Games
gofns13324
tarik_tv7577
shahzam548
C9.Mang0245
ToD195
XaKoH 109
SteadfastSC94
ViBE77
NeuroSwarm73
JuggernautJason44
Maynarde7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2586
BasetradeTV163
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 122
• davetesta20
• Adnapsc2 5
• Response 5
• OhrlRock 1
• Kozan
• Migwel
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 51
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21028
League of Legends
• Scarra2544
Other Games
• imaqtpie1101
• Shiphtur220
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
9h 16m
CrankTV Team League
11h 16m
WardiTV Qualifier
12h 16m
Epic.LAN
13h 16m
Big Brain Bouts
16h 16m
SHIN vs Elazer
Percival vs Nicoract
Reynor vs Lambo
Replay Cast
1d
RSL Revival
1d 9h
Clem vs Lambo
Scarlett vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 10h
Epic.LAN
1d 13h
IPSL
1d 16h
Dragon vs Hawk
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Trap
herO vs SHIN
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Bonyth vs Ret
WardiTV Weekly
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
CrankTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-07-13
HSC XXIX
Eternal Conflict S2 E2

Ongoing

IPSL Spring 2026
Acropolis #4
CSL 2026 Summer (S21)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
RSL Revival: Season 6
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
SCTL 2026 Spring
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S3: W3
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 1
Escore Tournament S3: W4
ASL S22 SEASON OPEN Day 2
Escore Tournament S3: W5
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
Light Tournament 2026
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale
Eternal Conflict S2 E3
Logitech G Connect 2026
StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #5
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.