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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
March 12 2019 19:21 GMT
#30361
On March 13 2019 02:53 ASoo wrote:
When was the last time we had a league mechanic that didn't obliterate you if you tried to interact with it in Coast? Delve I guess, since you just poked sulfite for the first few zones...

I definitely got owned by Breach, Abyss, Bestiary, Incursion, Betrayal, and Synthesis mechanics in act 1.


idk, last league I started with a really strong leveling character (Caustic Arrow Raider) so I never really considered the Betrayal content hard until I saw someone playing another build.
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 12 2019 20:31 GMT
#30362
On March 13 2019 03:40 PoulsenB wrote:
This was a good start to the league, I dropped 3 ex, a Tabula, and a bunch of other nice stuff. Still kinda slogging through maps, I think I just need to start buying them instead of hoping to drop all of them. Still deabting what to play next, RF, some EK Nova sheneanigans, ehhh so many great options haha


That's pretty good, so far my best drop this league has been 2 socket bubonic
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 10:47:39
March 13 2019 10:44 GMT
#30363
i don't even have a build; screwed around with a hierophant and storm burst but i don't see it.
testing, checking, PoBing ...

started PoE as trapper, i was a trapper as base play style(i caught the trap ignite-prolif meta, those were some good times) until it was nerfed, then i realized totems are better in every way so i've been toteming ever since.
i didn't liked the patch in which traps were messed with(loss of cd then the dmg nerf, mehhh) so i kept toteming( last league i had a really good chieftain AW, facebreakers, full fire conversion(with the quiver) that i really liked).

now i'm mainly looking at trappers, non-squish ones but i just don't see any.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 18:01:04
March 13 2019 17:56 GMT
#30364
Isn't the Saboteur/Tinkerskin/EB trapper archetype still quite tanky? Trap damage got nerfed a bit in Delve after they were super-meta in Incursion, but defenses were untouched. Born in the Shadows is a really, really strong node.

Also, Ice Trap got an absurdly huge buff this league (55% more base damage, 90% > 150% added damage effectiveness, AoE buff).

*edit* If you want tanky, going EB/MoM hybrid with Devouring Diadem ought to be pretty strong, right?
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7735 Posts
March 13 2019 18:04 GMT
#30365
The problem with Devouring Diadems is that like 5 of them were dropped this league so far lul
IdrA fan forever <3 || the clueless one || Marci must be protected at all costs
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
March 13 2019 18:05 GMT
#30366
Oh yikes, they were so cheap last league but it makes sense that they'd be hard to get now that Syndicate isn't in every zone.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
March 13 2019 18:11 GMT
#30367
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selected bloodlines in addition. map device churned for 10 seconds trying to create the map then gave me an error lol.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 19:32:08
March 13 2019 19:28 GMT
#30368
Tinkerskin was more niche than archetype and more squish than tanky. its really sucky interaction with Chain Reaction(talking about its recover proccing a single time per chain reaction procc, which could be anywhere between 3-4 traps to 9+ traps giving 100life and 50es) made it to snowflakey to actually matter.

Born in the Shadows is something i like but it can't redeem everything else(ascendancies give AoE boosts but then what about lightning trap?; a conditional fork/chain/+1, i don't know, something).

mines i kind of like(the bonuses only for "you detonating..." screw over the totem+detonate shenanigans), i don't mind the play style and i was really hoping i can put one of the new skills on a mine, but they just suck, are explicitly forbidden to be on a mine, or it takes to much to make it decent mechanically(GMPs and such).

i see icetrap as single target; there's no zoomzoom potential there.
overall, one can make a better trapper with the elementalist since traps get the conflux, the pen, some of the prolif and the overall huge dmg of the ascendancy(elementalist+raiz+lightning trap). deadeye can be a better trapper/miner as far as projectile skills go(kb miner, gogogo, ZOOMZOOM).
i'm struggling to find the appeal of saboteur.

plus, i'm one of them ssf'ers so in general, things need to have a good starting base(or be try-hard) else there's no enjoyment.

edit: ever since they made it so using skills no longer prevents ES recharge(in EB cases), i find it hard to justify items like The Devouring Diadem. isn't ES recharging anyway?.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
March 13 2019 19:37 GMT
#30369
On March 14 2019 04:28 xM(Z wrote:
Tinkerskin was more niche than archetype and more squish than tanky. its really sucky interaction with Chain Reaction(talking about its recover proccing a single time per chain reaction procc, which could be anywhere between 3-4 traps to 9+ traps giving 100life and 50es) made it to snowflakey to actually matter.

Born in the Shadows is something i like but it can't redeem everything else(ascendancies give AoE boosts but then what about lightning trap?; a conditional fork/chain/+1, i don't know, something).

mines i kind of like(the bonuses only for "you detonating..." screw over the totem+detonate shenanigans), i don't mind the play style and i was really hoping i can put one of the new skills on a mine, but they just suck, are explicitly forbidden to be on a mine, or it takes to much to make it decent mechanically(GMPs and such).

i see icetrap as single target; there's no zoomzoom potential there.
overall, one can make a better trapper with the elementalist since traps get the conflux, the pen, some of the prolif and the overall huge dmg of the ascendancy(elementalist+raiz+lightning trap). deadeye can be a better trapper/miner as far as projectile skills go(kb miner, gogogo, ZOOMZOOM).
i'm struggling to find the appeal of saboteur.

plus, i'm one of them ssf'ers so in general, things need to have a good starting base(or be try-hard) else there's no enjoyment.

edit: ever since they made it so using skills no longer prevents ES recharge(in EB cases), i find it hard to justify items like The Devouring Diadem. isn't ES recharging anyway?.
I imagine its nice with Occultist 'Recharge is not interrupted if started recently" letting you start up regen while in the middle of combat and it won't immediately be stop again.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8659 Posts
March 13 2019 20:43 GMT
#30370
On March 12 2019 07:01 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 06:58 Miragee wrote:
On March 10 2019 03:19 Quateras wrote:
Quad tab is a single stash tab with the space equal to 4 normal tabs -> quad tab.
It will be on sale with all the normal stash tab items together, so wait a week or 2 for that sale if you can


I don't get the appeal but ok.

They are very nice as drop tabs, you put all kind of stuff there after mapping and clean them later on. It makes mapping more enjoyable for some people (me included).


But how's that different from dumping said stuff in four separate tabs?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
March 13 2019 20:49 GMT
#30371
On March 14 2019 05:43 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2019 07:01 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 12 2019 06:58 Miragee wrote:
On March 10 2019 03:19 Quateras wrote:
Quad tab is a single stash tab with the space equal to 4 normal tabs -> quad tab.
It will be on sale with all the normal stash tab items together, so wait a week or 2 for that sale if you can


I don't get the appeal but ok.

They are very nice as drop tabs, you put all kind of stuff there after mapping and clean them later on. It makes mapping more enjoyable for some people (me included).


But how's that different from dumping said stuff in four separate tabs?


Speed/efficiency. Changing tabs takes a lot of time.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 13 2019 20:56 GMT
#30372
With control + mouse wheel, switching contiguous tabs is merely half a second longer. It’s AutoHotkey I think. I also do miscellaneous dumps while mapping, but separate out a couple things beforehand.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8659 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-13 21:09:54
March 13 2019 21:09 GMT
#30373
On March 14 2019 05:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 14 2019 05:43 Miragee wrote:
On March 12 2019 07:01 HolydaKing wrote:
On March 12 2019 06:58 Miragee wrote:
On March 10 2019 03:19 Quateras wrote:
Quad tab is a single stash tab with the space equal to 4 normal tabs -> quad tab.
It will be on sale with all the normal stash tab items together, so wait a week or 2 for that sale if you can


I don't get the appeal but ok.

They are very nice as drop tabs, you put all kind of stuff there after mapping and clean them later on. It makes mapping more enjoyable for some people (me included).


But how's that different from dumping said stuff in four separate tabs?


Speed/efficiency. Changing tabs takes a lot of time.


You know you can change tabs via arrow-keys right? That doesn't take very long.

//Oh yeah, and control+scroll.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
March 13 2019 22:47 GMT
#30374
Yeah it's not really much different than using multiple separate tabs to dump. Just more convenient and less cluttered I guess. Also cheaper (well, compared to 4 Premium tabs at least, since I think you can get like 6 non-Premium tabs for the price of a quad)
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
March 13 2019 23:08 GMT
#30375
On March 14 2019 04:28 xM(Z wrote:
edit: ever since they made it so using skills no longer prevents ES recharge(in EB cases), i find it hard to justify items like The Devouring Diadem. isn't ES recharging anyway?.

It's only good if you're EB/MoM (meaning your recharge would be interrupted by damage, so restarting it is a good thing). If you're just using EB on its own to cast out of your ES pool, then yeah it's not worth using.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 15 2019 08:18 GMT
#30376
The recent change discussed here makes the memory nexus even less rewarding. At this point I don't blame anyone for skipping it completely until GGG buffs the rewards. I found the bugs even more annoying so I'm glad they were and are fixing them, but as it is the memory nexus is still not fun imo (and the crazy dmg mods on a lot of zones don't help).
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
March 15 2019 09:57 GMT
#30377
So after dying in my first map last weekend. I want to give it another try this time. Any fun HC builds that came to light this league? I normally play summoner but got bored of the playstyle. Something very tanky woild be good as I suck and want to see endgame
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-15 10:25:01
March 15 2019 10:21 GMT
#30378
Tanky in endgame would IMO especially be Occultist with for example Winter Orb, Cold DoT with Vortex, and ofc the new chaos skills which are pretty op (Bane, Soulrend). The later skills have the big benefit of ignoring reflect. I'm sure you'll easily find a build for all of these skills on the forums.

If you got problems getting there however, maybe a life based Trickster going Divine Ire (another OP new skill) like AhhCrying did in SSFHC. His char is dead now but he was leading the ladder for a long while. You can check his char here (char name NotCLG_AhhCrying).

Otherwise, if you want something more oldschool just check out Alkaizers character, I think he's playing Molten Strike Jugg. That build is as strong as ever and ofc tanky like most of Alks chars.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22308 Posts
March 15 2019 11:02 GMT
#30379
On March 15 2019 17:18 HolydaKing wrote:
The recent change discussed here makes the memory nexus even less rewarding. At this point I don't blame anyone for skipping it completely until GGG buffs the rewards. I found the bugs even more annoying so I'm glad they were and are fixing them, but as it is the memory nexus is still not fun imo (and the crazy dmg mods on a lot of zones don't help).
Ive completely stopped caring about the nexus.
It just doesn't feel worth the time and effort, especially for someone that plays until the inevitable burnout after 2-3 weeks and then stops for the league.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ThaddeusK
Profile Joined July 2008
United States233 Posts
March 15 2019 11:12 GMT
#30380
On March 15 2019 17:18 HolydaKing wrote:
The recent change discussed here makes the memory nexus even less rewarding. At this point I don't blame anyone for skipping it completely until GGG buffs the rewards. I found the bugs even more annoying so I'm glad they were and are fixing them, but as it is the memory nexus is still not fun imo (and the crazy dmg mods on a lot of zones don't help).


Just don't hit the stabilizer at the end of a reward node and it works the same as before
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