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EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-21 22:57:50
May 21 2018 21:23 GMT
#28321
On May 22 2018 05:10 ThaddeusK wrote:
There been alot of "I've given xxx dollars to support small indie game dev GGG, but now that they are big game dev GGG I won't support them anymore" and many variations on that theme on reddit, basically people who were in their mind donating to GGG to keep PoE going, rather than buying a product.

edit: and it's certainly possible that it's just a small minority being really loud right now, but the amount of it still came as a bit of shock to me.

My PoV is something like this:

The supporter packs and MTX, not including things like stash tabs, are overpriced compared to other games. For example in Dota 2, you can get various nice looking sets for as cheap as $1. Most other games have cheaper prices for premium skins and include the option of grinding them for free.

A key reason why I was happy to buy the overpriced MTX/packs for the past 4ish years was because I liked supporting GGG. They have been one of the best developers out there in terms of product (completely free lots of updates) and communication. Of course they have not been a "small indie game dev" for some time now, but they were still independent.

Now, they are not independent. And are partnered with a fairly deplorable company. Yes, it's primarily domestic activities that are the concern, not actions with Western game companies, but the fact remains that supporting this crappy company is not something many people want to do. You can call this entire mindset naive I suppose (businesses are there to make money etc.), but I think snubbing your nose at people who think this way is a bit callous.

At the end of the day the game will probably not change that much, but personally my view of the value in paying for $40 armor sets is diminished.
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
May 22 2018 03:11 GMT
#28322
On May 21 2018 22:20 bo1b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2018 21:53 Alur wrote:
On May 21 2018 19:58 bo1b wrote:
On May 21 2018 19:56 Haasts wrote:
On May 20 2018 11:06 bo1b wrote:
I did deathless uber elder on an ascendant reave bf for about 5ex on bsc, you can do it with a blue weapon, build is broken.


Slayer/Raider Ascendant? Wondering if I should give that sort of thing a go in Incursion if stat sticks are not long for the world post-3.3, though I'm probably going to default to some sort of walking simulator (maybe one of those RF Elementalist builds w/Inpulsa's, IDK).

Yeh slayer/raider, level 85, tempestuous steel off hand, a 5l belly and the best wep i could get.

BF and reave both alternate weapons when dual wielding, and since tempestuous steel is a sword (valid type for bf/reave), using it would lower your dps significantly. This is why people use sceptres as stat sticks.

Yeh, if you look at my characters now you'll find I've upgraded, I unfortunately didn't think about it when I went in the first time, but it was still pretty easy, even if it took a bit longer.

https://pastebin.com/xWFJKyz6

This is the character now, at lvl 86, with decent gear.


Ah, thanks for that. Any ballpark idea of how phys/sword versions compare to ele/claw takes? Guessing a stat-stick and a half-decent weapon + that Ascendant combo will pull a lot of weight regardless of how you build it.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
May 22 2018 06:55 GMT
#28323
No idea, I think swords are probably easier to build around given the placement on the tree though.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2864 Posts
May 22 2018 16:39 GMT
#28324
Guys help I can't stop making hipster builds that sort of work but perform unimpressively for their gear costs.

In completely unrelated news, next league I'll be playing Gluttony/Hiltless Flicker Strike Juggernaut with high uptime Immortal Call, abusing Unbreakable regen with phys immunity and self-damage. I don't see any way this could possibly go wrong.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 22 2018 16:50 GMT
#28325
On May 23 2018 01:39 ASoo wrote:
Guys help I can't stop making hipster builds that sort of work but perform unimpressively for their gear costs.

In completely unrelated news, next league I'll be playing Gluttony/Hiltless Flicker Strike Juggernaut with high uptime Immortal Call, abusing Unbreakable regen with phys immunity and self-damage. I don't see any way this could possibly go wrong.

You sound like me 1.5 years ago. Now I just make similarly unimpressive builds but they cost much less :D
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5251 Posts
May 22 2018 18:59 GMT
#28326
I think I'd have more fun if I could throw myself into hipster builds. I usually spend most of the league on 1. super meta league starter 2. super meta map clearer, then I lose the will to play
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
May 22 2018 19:59 GMT
#28327
Well, I'm doing my own builds since like 2 years. They mostly aren't very different from builds that end up somewhere in the forums though. Next league I'm planning to do a Lightning Trap + Lightning Spire Trap build, and there'll be many more people who will do that so I'm sure I'll find a 95% similar build guide somewhere.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10811 Posts
May 23 2018 00:29 GMT
#28328
I do lightning trsp shit next league...

Are Traps the new (and long gone) selfcast?
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
May 23 2018 01:23 GMT
#28329
Nah, totems are tbh

I think making your own builds is fine tbh, I just don't see the point in going out of your way to make it bad. Pretty much every build I make is my own, not including things like the bf reave character.

Speaking of which, I'm probably going for elementalist explosive arrow next league.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-23 06:42:34
May 23 2018 06:40 GMT
#28330
On May 23 2018 10:23 bo1b wrote:
Nah, totems are tbh

I think making your own builds is fine tbh, I just don't see the point in going out of your way to make it bad. Pretty much every build I make is my own, not including things like the bf reave character.

Speaking of which, I'm probably going for elementalist explosive arrow next league.

I agree totems are probably still going to be king for spells. I played FP Hierophant last league though, so I wanna try something else. With the new FP changes it would've been even more nuts... With Shimmeron it was deleting everything (and the best thing: freezing nearly everything) while being a totem build.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
May 23 2018 09:13 GMT
#28331
Yeah I feel like buffing FP base dmg on top of the falloff changes is unnecessary, seems like FP totems will be strictly better than Frostbolt totems now.
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
May 23 2018 09:18 GMT
#28332
Already were imo, though flameblast totems are back baby
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 23 2018 10:41 GMT
#28333
On May 23 2018 18:18 bo1b wrote:
Already were imo, though flameblast totems are back baby

Not really. Frostbolt totems with threshold jewels would delete enemies outside the screen on more open maps.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
May 23 2018 10:48 GMT
#28334
On May 23 2018 18:18 bo1b wrote:
Already were imo, though flameblast totems are back baby

Single target is only slightly better when totems are placed point blank. No falloff makes FB totems better for clear, and the lack of falloff means you have much more freedom in terms of where to place totems during bossfights (including spreading them out so they don't die to the same AoE skill).
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Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
May 24 2018 03:09 GMT
#28335
That's a spicy load of new Divination cards - Fated Connections/Jeweller's Touch; Perandus Manor/Poorjoy's Asylum/Putrid Cloister; Belly of the Beast/Lightpoacher/Bisco's Collar; corrupted Nemesis item; Watcher's Eye; a whole mess of Essences, and more! Vaguely wish there were ones for Detonate Mines or Primordial Might/Anima Stone for SSF purposes, but eh. Will be curious how the drop locations of these might spread some love to under-run maps (and hopefully people will update the wiki - I did a bunch of updates past handful of leagues based on Reddit posts/screenshots that'd been up for weeks, eh).
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 25 2018 06:10 GMT
#28336
Elemental Hit is back baby!
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-25 07:06:42
May 25 2018 07:05 GMT
#28337
On May 25 2018 15:10 -Archangel- wrote:
Elemental Hit is back baby!

With bow or wand it looks it could be actually pretty good for clear speed. For melee it looks alright, but worse than real AoE skills and Infernal Blow.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-25 07:09:29
May 25 2018 07:09 GMT
#28338
On May 25 2018 16:05 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2018 15:10 -Archangel- wrote:
Elemental Hit is back baby!

With bow or wand it looks it could be actually pretty good for clear speed. For melee it looks alright, but worse than real AoE skills and Infernal Blow.

AoE does not look that awesome but its single target might be better with that "free" EE thing if you use 2 elements.
Quateras
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany867 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-25 10:54:15
May 25 2018 10:15 GMT
#28339
What do you guys think about my PoB Double Strike Jugg?Tree feels a little clunky.
Defense wise should be half decent, right? With loreweave + endurance charges?
DMG with vaal double strike is gonna triple my base dps for a while or are the doubles damage nerfed/reduced?
(its mostly using my old gear from a wild strike char)
Might use Oni Goroshi until i get a nice foil + offhand - Oni goroshi actually deals 200-300k+ more damage than a good foil.

https://pastebin.com/prmLcZKk


/EDIT alright just saw ziggy video on vaal skills, dmg is lower than normal Double Strike and multistrike doesnt work apparently.Welp
"If you don't know where you are going, you can never get lost."
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 25 2018 15:14 GMT
#28340
On May 25 2018 19:15 Quateras wrote:
What do you guys think about my PoB Double Strike Jugg?Tree feels a little clunky.
Defense wise should be half decent, right? With loreweave + endurance charges?
DMG with vaal double strike is gonna triple my base dps for a while or are the doubles damage nerfed/reduced?
(its mostly using my old gear from a wild strike char)
Might use Oni Goroshi until i get a nice foil + offhand - Oni goroshi actually deals 200-300k+ more damage than a good foil.

https://pastebin.com/prmLcZKk


/EDIT alright just saw ziggy video on vaal skills, dmg is lower than normal Double Strike and multistrike doesnt work apparently.Welp

It is only lower because you cannot have lvl 21 gem but that only matters for spells.
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