EPTLooks like champion has similar ehp as jugg, about 50 less if hit for 5k. The issue is though, jugg gets the kaoms roots bonus for free which would be big for uber elder, and I don't think I would have enough room left to use kaoms roots and still have max resists. Any suggestions?
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
Looks like champion has similar ehp as jugg, about 50 less if hit for 5k. The issue is though, jugg gets the kaoms roots bonus for free which would be big for uber elder, and I don't think I would have enough room left to use kaoms roots and still have max resists. Any suggestions? | ||
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ASoo
2866 Posts
Current PoB: https://pastebin.com/BGTzaUJ1 All the mechanics seem like they should work well together. Doomfletch loves the non-chaos-as-extra-chaos applying after every conversion step; Trickster incentivizes combining ES and Evasion, which should go well with QotF move speed and Soul Strike ES recharge to actually use the recharge mechanic as designed. But 6.4k ES is just not a lot, even with high evasion and fast recharge to go with it, and 440k Shaper DPS is not particularly impressive with the rather optimistic gear I've thrown on in PoB here. I'm sure if I threw a few dozen exalts at it I could map pretty well, but there are better and cheaper ways to clear maps fast with Lightning Arrow. Disappointing, it all seemed really cool but I don't think it's going anywhere. If anybody has ideas for improvements, I'd love to hear them. | ||
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Alur
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 05 2018 10:53 ASoo wrote: Trying to theorycraft a CI Doomfletch's Prism Trickster abusing the extra chaos mechanic, and I'm just not getting the numbers to look promising. Current PoB: https://pastebin.com/BGTzaUJ1 All the mechanics seem like they should work well together. Doomfletch loves the non-chaos-as-extra-chaos applying after every conversion step; Trickster incentivizes combining ES and Evasion, which should go well with QotF move speed and Soul Strike ES recharge to actually use the recharge mechanic as designed. But 6.4k ES is just not a lot, even with high evasion and fast recharge to go with it, and 440k Shaper DPS is not particularly impressive with the rather optimistic gear I've thrown on in PoB here. I'm sure if I threw a few dozen exalts at it I could map pretty well, but there are better and cheaper ways to clear maps fast with Lightning Arrow. Disappointing, it all seemed really cool but I don't think it's going anywhere. If anybody has ideas for improvements, I'd love to hear them. I got nothing :D I think going ES and attack skill outside Occultist (or Hiero) only works if you are HoWa like build but except for Hyrri's Demise no such item exists for bows. | ||
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ASoo
2866 Posts
On April 05 2018 21:56 -Archangel- wrote: I got nothing :D I think going ES and attack skill outside Occultist (or Hiero) only works if you are HoWa like build but except for Hyrri's Demise no such item exists for bows. Yeah. The Trickster Evasion/ES nodes scream "No, really, you can use the ES recharge mechanic for once in your life instead of ignoring it!" and I wanted to try something with them, but I really think leech and gain-on-hit are just too good compared to everything else on attack builds. Back to hipster Heartbound Loop theorycrafting. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On April 06 2018 02:30 ASoo wrote: Yeah. The Trickster Evasion/ES nodes scream "No, really, you can use the ES recharge mechanic for once in your life instead of ignoring it!" and I wanted to try something with them, but I really think leech and gain-on-hit are just too good compared to everything else on attack builds. Back to hipster Heartbound Loop theorycrafting. heartbound loop is so 3.2.2, now we have the new belt for self-damage! ( https://imgur.com/a/5LTNj ) E: I was so excited to realize that this belt removes all your ES, which is incredible with auxium self-chill/freeze shenanigans... until I remembered that auxium is a belt. | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
Now to decide between Champion or any Ranger ascendancy lol. I'm feeling something bow-y but dunno. Just gonna go with the flow and take it at a chill pace. I really want to play ARPG lately, I just didn't want to leap into the fast-paced spamming of the same map and worrying about selling shit. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
burning ground after a bossfight because I was resaponding to a whatsapp-message -_- started some random terrible jugg build, bricked 2 tabulas in a row why am I even playing this shit game :D | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
On April 06 2018 11:51 Duka08 wrote: I'm really craving some SSF action. Don't know why. Never done it before. Just a mood. Now to decide between Champion or any Ranger ascendancy lol. I'm feeling something bow-y but dunno. Just gonna go with the flow and take it at a chill pace. I really want to play ARPG lately, I just didn't want to leap into the fast-paced spamming of the same map and worrying about selling shit. From recent personal experience may I suggest Skele Necro, works great and only needs items you can farm (like Avian Beast boots and armor). | ||
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Sn0_Man
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Duka08
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On April 07 2018 01:01 Sn0_Man wrote: Spectres are more unique-dependant simply because you can't get very many spectres without a few specific uniques. The rework of necro has made other summoners much more end-game viable, but spectres should still be good as well. Are the overall builds similar enough that if you happened to drop/craft some key uniques while playing generic necro/skeles/whatever you could just switch to spectres without changing your tree a lot? I know searching for specific uniques is probably optimistic in SSF, but I'm curious. Something to chase at least. Maybe with beastcrafting it's not so crazy. | ||
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ASoo
2866 Posts
On April 07 2018 01:05 Duka08 wrote: Are the overall builds similar enough that if you happened to drop/craft some key uniques while playing generic necro/skeles/whatever you could just switch to spectres without changing your tree a lot? Yeah, summoner trees are super interchangeable. Take a bunch of life nodes (or ES nodes if you're feeling it), take whatever minion damage nodes you path past, done. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On April 07 2018 01:05 Duka08 wrote: Are the overall builds similar enough that if you happened to drop/craft some key uniques while playing generic necro/skeles/whatever you could just switch to spectres without changing your tree a lot? I know searching for specific uniques is probably optimistic in SSF, but I'm curious. Something to chase at least. Maybe with beastcrafting it's not so crazy. Necro Spectre builds need unique boots and unique armor but you can do Zombies/Skeletons until you get those and have 2 Spectre as support only (either those that curse your enemies so you don't have to or those that give frenzy charges to other minions or you can even get a 4L damaging spectres like Solar Guards to help you with map clear) The tree is basically the same. You would only need to change ascendancy a bit to get Spectre nodes instead of zombie or skeleton ones. | ||
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EchelonTee
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bo1b
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On April 07 2018 05:14 EchelonTee wrote: @Alur - nugiyen just took down uber elder with a setup somewhat similar to your planned one. Molten Striker pathfinder with lightning coil, using soul taker and purity watcher's eye though. was a bit sketchy tho Ya, I think mine would've done ok if not for the rip while levelling so it makes sense. | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
On April 07 2018 08:40 bo1b wrote: I really don't like that they've introduced most of the recent bosses based on life regen and mitigation, and made it so it's incredibly difficult to get either on the ranger. Really feels like the class is designed to run around farming t12 and below shaped maps with as much quant as possible By ranger do you mean bow builds or just the Ranger ascendencies? Also plenty of people have done uber elder and such with bow builds, and poets zerphris pathfinder seems like the current op thing | ||
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Croatia7457 Posts
 So good I got 1 damage passive on whole tree and on equipment only my shield gives me 15% spell damage from implicit. I use brightbeak to zip around maps and murder everyone while mana and life regenerate very fast | ||
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/NXMbQfn.png) Unfortunately for the voidforge build I'm working on, that is still worse than farrul's just because of the frenzy and power charges, so I'm trying to sell it. | ||
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