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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 07 2018 16:22 GMT
#28161
Pretty good to get max res roll
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
April 07 2018 16:36 GMT
#28162
Just sold the loreweave for 10ex maybe half hour after putting it up, maybe I underpriced a bit??
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 07 2018 17:12 GMT
#28163
On April 08 2018 01:36 hunts wrote:
Just sold the loreweave for 10ex maybe half hour after putting it up, maybe I underpriced a bit??

That is an extremely nice money for a 60c armor.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
April 07 2018 18:45 GMT
#28164
On April 07 2018 12:25 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2018 08:40 bo1b wrote:
I really don't like that they've introduced most of the recent bosses based on life regen and mitigation, and made it so it's incredibly difficult to get either on the ranger. Really feels like the class is designed to run around farming t12 and below shaped maps with as much quant as possible


By ranger do you mean bow builds or just the Ranger ascendencies? Also plenty of people have done uber elder and such with bow builds, and poets zerphris pathfinder seems like the current op thing

Honestly zerphis indigon and poets pen needs to just be removed from the game, stupidly op.

I find bow builds in a horrrendous position game balance wise, as there success falls almost entirely into either killing the boss in about .2 seconds or dying, as an aside both the shadow and the ranger heavily need more life on the right hand side of the tree, and evasion needs buffing vs all of the new bosses that have been put out.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-07 18:53:52
April 07 2018 18:53 GMT
#28165
Can someone give me some secret insight into Zerphis lol. I've heard it come up a lot since I put the game down a few weeks ago but I don't know what makes it worth a billion ex or whatever it's selling for. I feel uncreative. Maybe pathfinder shit, that might be what you're alluding to bo1b with your Ranger comments idk.

I also realized how life-poor the right hand side of the tree is when I was dinking around with SSF ideas a few days ago. It's pretty brutal. Glass cannon by design it seems, not just because people choose to forgo defense for amazing offensive options, but because the defensive options just aren't there lol. No decisions to make or balancing act between off/def. That's actually what I've enjoyed tinkering with the most in PoB and stuff on my previous characters (Jugg/Duelist stuff).
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 07 2018 19:12 GMT
#28166
On April 08 2018 03:53 Duka08 wrote:
Can someone give me some secret insight into Zerphis lol. I've heard it come up a lot since I put the game down a few weeks ago but I don't know what makes it worth a billion ex or whatever it's selling for. I feel uncreative. Maybe pathfinder shit, that might be what you're alluding to bo1b with your Ranger comments idk.

I also realized how life-poor the right hand side of the tree is when I was dinking around with SSF ideas a few days ago. It's pretty brutal. Glass cannon by design it seems, not just because people choose to forgo defense for amazing offensive options, but because the defensive options just aren't there lol. No decisions to make or balancing act between off/def. That's actually what I've enjoyed tinkering with the most in PoB and stuff on my previous characters (Jugg/Duelist stuff).

The combination Zerphi / Indigon seems pretty obvious to me. I haven't tried building it myself, but Indigon gives a lot of spell damage for mana spent and Zerphi heals you for mana spent. So these builds will get as much mana + mana regen as possible and use a spell / attack that spends a lot of mana (this can be amplified with gear as well).
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
April 07 2018 19:17 GMT
#28167
On April 08 2018 04:12 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 03:53 Duka08 wrote:
Can someone give me some secret insight into Zerphis lol. I've heard it come up a lot since I put the game down a few weeks ago but I don't know what makes it worth a billion ex or whatever it's selling for. I feel uncreative. Maybe pathfinder shit, that might be what you're alluding to bo1b with your Ranger comments idk.

I also realized how life-poor the right hand side of the tree is when I was dinking around with SSF ideas a few days ago. It's pretty brutal. Glass cannon by design it seems, not just because people choose to forgo defense for amazing offensive options, but because the defensive options just aren't there lol. No decisions to make or balancing act between off/def. That's actually what I've enjoyed tinkering with the most in PoB and stuff on my previous characters (Jugg/Duelist stuff).

The combination Zerphi / Indigon seems pretty obvious to me. I haven't tried building it myself, but Indigon gives a lot of spell damage for mana spent and Zerphi heals you for mana spent. So these builds will get as much mana + mana regen as possible and use a spell / attack that spends a lot of mana (this can be amplified with gear as well).

Oh fuck I didn't even know Indigon was a different item lol

Never mind :^)
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-07 19:22:44
April 07 2018 19:19 GMT
#28168
On April 08 2018 04:17 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 04:12 HolydaKing wrote:
On April 08 2018 03:53 Duka08 wrote:
Can someone give me some secret insight into Zerphis lol. I've heard it come up a lot since I put the game down a few weeks ago but I don't know what makes it worth a billion ex or whatever it's selling for. I feel uncreative. Maybe pathfinder shit, that might be what you're alluding to bo1b with your Ranger comments idk.

I also realized how life-poor the right hand side of the tree is when I was dinking around with SSF ideas a few days ago. It's pretty brutal. Glass cannon by design it seems, not just because people choose to forgo defense for amazing offensive options, but because the defensive options just aren't there lol. No decisions to make or balancing act between off/def. That's actually what I've enjoyed tinkering with the most in PoB and stuff on my previous characters (Jugg/Duelist stuff).

The combination Zerphi / Indigon seems pretty obvious to me. I haven't tried building it myself, but Indigon gives a lot of spell damage for mana spent and Zerphi heals you for mana spent. So these builds will get as much mana + mana regen as possible and use a spell / attack that spends a lot of mana (this can be amplified with gear as well).

Oh fuck I didn't even know Indigon was a different item lol

Never mind :^)

Yeah, from Uber Elder so I don't blame you for not knowing it.

I killed Uber Atziri earlier. I never tried to kill her before despite playing since the first open beta. Always hated how expensive it is to just try it. My Freezing Pulse Hierophant managed to do it, but Atziri herself not deathless ofc. Now I only haven't killed Uber Elder, and tbh I don't really want to right now since it seems insanely hard.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-07 20:15:50
April 07 2018 20:10 GMT
#28169
On April 08 2018 04:12 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 03:53 Duka08 wrote:
Can someone give me some secret insight into Zerphis lol. I've heard it come up a lot since I put the game down a few weeks ago but I don't know what makes it worth a billion ex or whatever it's selling for. I feel uncreative. Maybe pathfinder shit, that might be what you're alluding to bo1b with your Ranger comments idk.

I also realized how life-poor the right hand side of the tree is when I was dinking around with SSF ideas a few days ago. It's pretty brutal. Glass cannon by design it seems, not just because people choose to forgo defense for amazing offensive options, but because the defensive options just aren't there lol. No decisions to make or balancing act between off/def. That's actually what I've enjoyed tinkering with the most in PoB and stuff on my previous characters (Jugg/Duelist stuff).

The combination Zerphi / Indigon seems pretty obvious to me. I haven't tried building it myself, but Indigon gives a lot of spell damage for mana spent and Zerphi heals you for mana spent. So these builds will get as much mana + mana regen as possible and use a spell / attack that spends a lot of mana (this can be amplified with gear as well).

Indigon builds don't even have huge enough life pools to need Zerphi. You can use some life leech in combination with faster healing normal potion for same effect. And mana pools usually have huge regen effect so that way when you do MoM your survivability is huge.

As for removing Indigon.. then RF needs to be removed as well, also QotF.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
April 07 2018 20:33 GMT
#28170
Indigon by itself i super strong and really doesn't need removing, it';s the combination of zerphis + poets pen + kaoms heart that makes it op.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-07 21:51:01
April 07 2018 21:50 GMT
#28171
What does OP in poe mean in your eyes though? Too easy to gear? Cuz some of those items are very expensive. Too well rounded, can do fast farming content and bossing? Too brainless? I've seen lots of boss killing builds that melt the end game fights in seconds, no movement or mechanics required. So when a new strong combo pops up what makes it OP and worthy of changing, rather than just "a new good (maybe expensive/rare) option"?

Genuinely honest question. I haven't been around PoE long enough to see its notorious history of buffs and nerfs (mostly nerfs) so I don't have a feel for why some things are too good when there are already builds/combos that are so good.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 07 2018 23:20 GMT
#28172
On April 08 2018 05:33 bo1b wrote:
Indigon by itself i super strong and really doesn't need removing, it';s the combination of zerphis + poets pen + kaoms heart that makes it op.

From that list remove Zerphi, the rest is OK.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-08 07:49:32
April 08 2018 07:47 GMT
#28173
Meanwhile in hipster land...

Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
April 08 2018 09:11 GMT
#28174
poor poor computer
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 14:11:53
April 09 2018 14:11 GMT
#28175
On April 08 2018 16:47 ASoo wrote:
Meanwhile in hipster land...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sreesjxPsY

Is that your video?

I'm impressed that it works even with the 50% less offering effect and only 4.9k life.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
April 09 2018 16:13 GMT
#28176
On April 09 2018 23:11 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2018 16:47 ASoo wrote:
Meanwhile in hipster land...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sreesjxPsY

Is that your video?

I'm impressed that it works even with the 50% less offering effect and only 4.9k life.

Yeah, the life pool is slightly deceptive, because the amount of ES you get from Offering doesn't care about your total life, it cares about your base life, scaled by your % increased life and your % increased ES, stacking additively with each other. So for the purposes of sustain, it's often better to give up 5% life nodes for easy-to-path-to 8%+ ES nodes, even though it means you end up with a kinda unimpressive life total. Even then, I'm just barely at the break even point without fortify up. Currently grinding levels up to 90 or so to fill in a few more of those life nodes I skipped.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
April 09 2018 16:37 GMT
#28177
got one of them character links?
(prefer site not pob)
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 16:48:03
April 09 2018 16:46 GMT
#28178
On April 10 2018 01:37 Sn0_Man wrote:
got one of them character links?
(prefer site not pob)

http://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Twirlip/characters?characterName=Loop_the_Loop_Bestiary

Not wearing the Heartbound Loop gear right now, though. Swap the rings for a Heartbound Loop and a Hungry Loop, the boots and belt for Shaper ones with CDR, and switch the gems around for CwDT setups.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 09 2018 17:00 GMT
#28179
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8azx2j/ziz_rips_to_reflect_while_helping_someone_with_a/

lol'd, an interesting way to PK streamers.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22259 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-04-09 17:08:08
April 09 2018 17:07 GMT
#28180
On April 10 2018 02:00 HolydaKing wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/8azx2j/ziz_rips_to_reflect_while_helping_someone_with_a/

lol'd, an interesting way to PK streamers.

If only there was a way to check the map modifiers. /s

If your a popular streamer people will try to troll you. Always be weary.
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