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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 21 2017 07:57 GMT
#26941
Oh nice!

I always am in favour of random exalts, btw, is 3 damage + life the go to for a good abyss jewel?
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9568 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-21 11:56:48
December 21 2017 10:26 GMT
#26942
Hey guys, I finally decided to try this game out and downloaded it 2 days ago, have about 10h in it now since I had the usual hack n slash ARPG itch that needed to be scratched and wanted to try something different from Diablo 3.
Now I've been researching stuff by myself and probably have as many hours invested in reading beginner guides and watching youtube videos explaining things as I do playing this game but it is still a bit overwhelming.
So I've come to you guys with some questions:
I've decided to start as a witch because she's a pure INT class and I generally thought that a spellcaster will not be as gear dependent as a melee fighter for reliable damage.
I've researched and found 3 builds I'm interested in and would like to hear your opinions about which to follow.
Inki's Arc Witch - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1147951
Max Block Scorching Ray - + Show Spoiler +

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qr0TGpJ2qfs-K6DnXTpM24Bt9JsAhk5Tuv30AkL0zew/edit#heading=h.coc8xmz3vjah
Firestorm Leech Tank - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1944728

what I want to know is: How easy are these to gear for and if I could reliably gear for them playing SOLO without trading.
Maybe you guys have experience with these builds and you'd point me in a clear direction and say which is the best for a beginner like me? I'm lv 16 and I think it's about time to start investing into the passive skill tree with something clear in mind.

Also, I'd like to join the guild if you'd have a newb like me. I'm mostly looking for friendly people to chat with while I get my bearings and adapt to the game's mechanics. Maybe answer some questions for me in guild chat if any do pop up in my head.
I am NOT looking for any handouts or charity or carrying me in any form. I'm probably more interested in solo play and gearing by myself. I know this might seem unsocial but I do not like visual clutter on my screen from other people. It tends to confuse me a lot.

This season I want to experience the game and play at my own pace. I'm not really competitive about ladders or hardcore mode, but I do enjoy new season starts and I do not mind grinding for gear all that much.

Well this post has gone on for long enough so I'll shut myself up :p

IGN is: Latham89 (acc name) and LathamBB (witch's name). I dunno which you guys need to invite me.
I'm on EU (Frankfurt) if it matters?
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
PoulsenB
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland7729 Posts
December 21 2017 11:50 GMT
#26943
I played the Max Block Scorching Ray last league as my starter (basically first build I played seriously), it's very easy to gear for and the damage is really good even with a 4-link on main damage skill, levelling was rather effortless. Definitely a good option.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10848 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-21 12:58:56
December 21 2017 12:33 GMT
#26944
I wouldn't recommend Arc. It just feels and is bad for singletarget (awesome against everything else tho ).
Scorching Ray is very good and there are plenty of builds for it. If you like the channeling/stationary playstyle.
Firestorm i personally don't like, so won't speak about.

If you want to beat all content (which most people don't, not by far), I don't see many cheap builds that compare to Glacial Cascade Mines.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 21 2017 12:41 GMT
#26945
Invite sent (should be in your 'social' tab when you log in). I'll also recommend against the Arc idea. Firestorm/Scorching Ray are both reasonable options.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-21 13:27:33
December 21 2017 13:21 GMT
#26946
Arc is fun, just use Foxtactics builds for it (imo THE Arc player since he has been using it for like 5 leagues in a row and was the one to make it semi popular to begin with). You'd use Lightning Tendrils for single target instead. It's probably not the best option for a new player though, since you need more gear than say for a Scorching Ray build.

Arc miner is another option which is cheaper, but more squishy. That one is also good against single targets, although of course not as good as other skills are with mines (hi Glacial Cascade). Though if you don't wanna trade at all the the cheaper doesn't really count. If you do, you can buy cheap 5-6L helmets that are good for miners.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 21 2017 13:39 GMT
#26947
On December 21 2017 22:21 HolydaKing wrote:
Arc is fun, just use Foxtactics builds for it (imo THE Arc player since he has been using it for like 5 leagues in a row and was the one to make it semi popular to begin with). You'd use Lightning Tendrils for single target instead. It's probably not the best option for a new player though, since you need more gear than say for a Scorching Ray build.

Arc miner is another option which is cheaper, but more squishy. That one is also good against single targets, although of course not as good as other skills are with mines (hi Glacial Cascade). Though if you don't wanna trade at all the the cheaper doesn't really count. If you do, you can buy cheap 5-6L helmets that are good for miners.

Foxes Arc builds were using Vaal pact which is now nerfed and moved far away.

I don't know if he has a version for 3.1
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 21 2017 13:50 GMT
#26948
On December 21 2017 15:55 EchelonTee wrote:
Guild exalting together = good times :D

+ Show Spoiler [my jewel] +
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+ Show Spoiler [exalted] +
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+ Show Spoiler [plato joins in] +
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+ Show Spoiler [exalted] +
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Whoa are those really worth slamming? I could swear I've vendored abyss similar to those. What do you expect to get from those? Also what are good stats on an abyss?
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bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 21 2017 14:39 GMT
#26949
Finally running a melee lab farmer, my goodness it's smooth. Full key runs at 3.7k hp on a ngamahus slayer.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 21 2017 15:59 GMT
#26950
On December 21 2017 23:39 bo1b wrote:
Finally running a melee lab farmer, my goodness it's smooth. Full key runs at 3.7k hp on a ngamahus slayer.

3.7k hp?! Are you joking? Uber Izaro can one shot you with half his attacks.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 21 2017 16:02 GMT
#26951
On December 21 2017 16:57 bo1b wrote:
Oh nice!

I always am in favour of random exalts, btw, is 3 damage + life the go to for a good abyss jewel?

I'm curious about this too. I used a bunch of abyss jewels with flat dmg while leveling and figured they'd be bad once I got real weapons/gear.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
December 21 2017 16:22 GMT
#26952
do you guys still use the same Teamspeak? would love to just chat with some people while I mindlessly hold my RMB on my cyclone slayer :D
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-21 16:38:42
December 21 2017 16:35 GMT
#26953
On December 21 2017 22:39 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 22:21 HolydaKing wrote:
Arc is fun, just use Foxtactics builds for it (imo THE Arc player since he has been using it for like 5 leagues in a row and was the one to make it semi popular to begin with). You'd use Lightning Tendrils for single target instead. It's probably not the best option for a new player though, since you need more gear than say for a Scorching Ray build.

Arc miner is another option which is cheaper, but more squishy. That one is also good against single targets, although of course not as good as other skills are with mines (hi Glacial Cascade). Though if you don't wanna trade at all the the cheaper doesn't really count. If you do, you can buy cheap 5-6L helmets that are good for miners.

Foxes Arc builds were using Vaal pact which is now nerfed and moved far away.

I don't know if he has a version for 3.1

Maybe he doesn't have a 3.1 guide, but he certainly has a character where you can see his skill tree / items. https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/FoxTactics/characters

He also is streaming right now if you guy wanna see Arc that is pretty legit (tho he also has great gear). https://www.twitch.tv/foxtactics

Seems like he went back to using Flame Surge for single target, like last league (where I used his build). Flame Surge is pretty absurd in that set up, but you need to ignite with Arc / Orb of Storms.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 21 2017 22:16 GMT
#26954
On December 22 2017 00:59 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2017 23:39 bo1b wrote:
Finally running a melee lab farmer, my goodness it's smooth. Full key runs at 3.7k hp on a ngamahus slayer.

3.7k hp?! Are you joking? Uber Izaro can one shot you with half his attacks.

Fortify, basalt and granite flask and izaro hits me down to 2k hp with todays buffs. I'm at 4.2k now anyway now that I've leveled up a bit.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-22 02:20:41
December 21 2017 23:02 GMT
#26955
Hey shit on my gear again please. I'm getting into red maps finally and not having too much trouble, but I'm really not sure where my next big upgrades are. Got about 60c to comfortably spend as of this post. Going to have ~5.2k life with my last few more passives to go before 90 (182% life from tree). I was looking at axes but ~30c only gets me about ~10% dps increase per hand in PoB (edit: not that 10% is small, but for 20-30c I was hoping for more, given that these unique maces cost me an alch or whatever lol). And damage isn't a huge issue either really, it seems. Would like more tankiness just for faceroll, but I think I already have decent life rolls on everything except my chest, which I picked up mostly for the 5L. Maybe I just save up for a 5L Belly as a fun chase item.

Spawned Elder and his guardians on T5-7s for fun. First time I had died in a long while. Only once or twice on Elder himself and... Eradicator I think? The lightning one? And once to the dude that bleeds too. My first endgame boss experience lol. Haven't done Shaper/Guardians/Atziri.
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
December 22 2017 02:45 GMT
#26956
I have two poets pens, I think I need to make a build now. I need the memest of options which is still good for class choice please, currently leaning towards necromancer.
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
December 22 2017 06:33 GMT
#26957
Duka, did you do the extra calcs you have to do for molten balls dps boost?
link to a calculator
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-22 07:50:03
December 22 2017 07:33 GMT
#26958
On December 22 2017 15:33 Duvon wrote:
Duka, did you do the extra calcs you have to do for molten balls dps boost?
link to a calculator

I hadn't, no, but based on putting my numbers in from PoB to that spreadsheet, it seems like % increases propagate through. Meaning if I'm shopping and plug in a weapon(s) that result in a 5% total dps increase (both balls and melee hit) in PoB and update the spreadsheet, the total damage after calculations also increases 5%.

Neat calculator though. Will definitely bookmark it for later when I need to know accurate dps numbers though, since yeah, PoB + the balls is very sloppy.

I sold a Poet's Pen for 50c, highly doubt I'll do any alts that take advantage of it, and I found another Ex (have 2 in abyss now). So maybe I will look into a Belly......
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-22 08:09:08
December 22 2017 08:04 GMT
#26959
On December 21 2017 22:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
Whoa are those really worth slamming? I could swear I've vendored abyss similar to those. What do you expect to get from those? Also what are good stats on an abyss?

Echelon's jewel is a synergistic T1 + T2 + Life, Plato's jewel is double T1 + T2. Both are "worth" slamming but as with slamming anything, the vast majority of the time you don't get an upgrade. Crafting with exalts is a matter of volume--it requires a large enough operating budget that you can deal with the fact that you're going be straight up pissing away currency a lot of the time to eventually get something great.

If you don't have the currrency to throw away a few exalts, you aren't really missing much.

On December 22 2017 08:02 Duka08 wrote:
Hey shit on my gear again please.

You really ought to fix your flasks if you've been at endgame for a while. Heat does nothing when you have a Hrimnor's Resolve (you're always immune to freeze anyway), Dousing isn't super useful, and you don't have a Warding flask for curses.
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Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
December 22 2017 08:30 GMT
#26960
On December 22 2017 17:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2017 08:02 Duka08 wrote:
Hey shit on my gear again please.

You really ought to fix your flasks if you've been at endgame for a while. Heat does nothing when you have a Hrimnor's Resolve (you're always immune to freeze anyway), Dousing isn't super useful, and you don't have a Warding flask for curses.

FUCK. The Dousing is supposed to be Warding. I was rerolling those just yesterday and must have misread that one in a rush. Thanks for the catch.

I kept the Heat because I assumed I would be replacing Hrimnor's (only used it because I had it lying around I believe and the life was good when I finished leveling) but that fire damage and freeze immunity is pretty nice though.
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