EPTIll go for some Mine or Trap... Probably Firenova or Arcmine, but thats more because i have doubts about the Physicall/Chaos-Trapper i actually would like to play
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Velr
Switzerland10837 Posts
Ill go for some Mine or Trap... Probably Firenova or Arcmine, but thats more because i have doubts about the Physicall/Chaos-Trapper i actually would like to play | ||
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A Killer Cuppa Tea
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I take it essence drain is endgame viable? What ascendancy options are there? Actually, I have a question. What resources do you guys use to make your builds? I've almost exclusively just copied some YouTube build or something before, and I think I'm ready to start experimenting my own | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 25 2017 06:46 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote: Hmm essence drain, eh. I'll take it! Going have to do my research on the build before August comes round. I take it essence drain is endgame viable? What ascendancy options are there? Actually, I have a question. What resources do you guys use to make your builds? I've almost exclusively just copied some YouTube build or something before, and I think I'm ready to start experimenting my own Or try a self cast RF. Pox got some videos on it. As for experimenting with builds, get Path of Building. | ||
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ASoo
2865 Posts
On July 25 2017 04:39 -Archangel- wrote: Hmm I have to check out a video of that version of Flame Totems :D But except for possibly looking cool how well does it clear and kill bosses? :D There's some videos of versions without Eye of Innocence out there, but that seems like it pretty much misses the point to me. It's the same basic combo as the RAT nuke build, so...I actually have no idea how well that does against bosses. I'll let you know if I end up playing one. On July 25 2017 04:39 -Archangel- wrote: Glacial Cascade totems just sounds like a worse version of Frostbolt totems.. I was thinking about Scorching Ray totems but wouldn't they just be a worse version of RF totems? Same problems with enemies outside its range but also less AoE vs those inside its range. You're not wrong...this is what happens when you say "recommend me a totem build, but not any of the totem builds people normally recommend." On July 25 2017 04:39 -Archangel- wrote: New chaos skill is not really a totem skill even if you got skeleton totems. Maybe once we know its exact stats it can work as a chaos damage dealing totem or something that powers the spell with it own life. Yeah, this whole skill is definitely a "wait and see." On July 25 2017 04:39 -Archangel- wrote: I did think of Charged Dash totem but I also did look into Lightning warp totems and both will probably have same problem (lack of good base damage and too slow dealing of that damage) Oh, wait, also it's an attack so it probably doesn't work with totems at all. Never mind >.< | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Gonna be a hard choice. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 25 2017 07:38 ASoo wrote: There's some videos of versions without Eye of Innocence out there, but that seems like it pretty much misses the point to me. It's the same basic combo as the RAT nuke build, so...I actually have no idea how well that does against bosses. I'll let you know if I end up playing one. I turned off the video when they showed it uses Chance to Ignite supports.. since ignite is dead in 3.0 no point in even trying this. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 25 2017 07:43 r.Evo wrote: Shockwave totem is the only totem. Still one of my top #3 starters next to SRS and Sunder Slayer. Gonna be a hard choice. What about having 3 Explosive Arrow totems? Does the base damage of Explosion go up with number of fuses or does that only affect the AoE of the explosion? | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On July 25 2017 07:57 -Archangel- wrote: What about having 3 Explosive Arrow totems? Does the base damage of Explosion go up with number of fuses or does that only affect the AoE of the explosion? Damage and AoE goes up but it caps at 5 fuses, so that's a pretty pointless idea. =P | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On July 25 2017 06:46 A Killer Cuppa Tea wrote: Hmm essence drain, eh. I'll take it! Going have to do my research on the build before August comes round. I take it essence drain is endgame viable? What ascendancy options are there? Actually, I have a question. What resources do you guys use to make your builds? I've almost exclusively just copied some YouTube build or something before, and I think I'm ready to start experimenting my own As others have said Path of Building for mathcraft, I personally still prefer the offline skilltree planner if I want something lighter for just skilltrees. As for Essence Drain your main options for CI are Occultist >> Trickster > Scion imo, for life versions you're *mostly* looking at slightly weird combos like RF ED Trickster. Those aren't well explored right now, especially keeping the new Mind over Matter in mind. It's viable all the way up to Shaper and is traditionally a bosser more than a super speedy build. Variants with a bow for Caustic Arrow on weaponswap should also be considered, just to have a bit more oomph for bosses. This guide is probably the most solid around for 3.0 as of now but there is definitely some wiggle room on how to execute the build exactly. | ||
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ASoo
2865 Posts
On July 25 2017 07:55 -Archangel- wrote: I turned off the video when they showed it uses Chance to Ignite supports.. since ignite is dead in 3.0 no point in even trying this. Ignite does no damage, but Chance to Ignite is good. It has a "% More Fire Damage" mod on it now. You don't do your damage with ignites, you use ignites to trigger self damage with Eye of Innocence to proc Tukohama, War's Herald a bajillion times per second, and scale your Flame Totem's hit damage with Immolate plus a bunch of more multipliers. | ||
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LagLovah
Canada552 Posts
On July 25 2017 08:54 EchelonTee wrote: new uniques - https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1926420 Its pretty trolltastic to release a summoner based unique that scales off of dex when it is probably the class with the most difficulty getting dex. For the sake of wondering what GGG had it mind here, i decided to PoB out a nulls inclination animate weapon ES based character. It looks like it might be possible, but somehow feels like it will be way worse than baron still. Hrm. | ||
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EchelonTee
United States5256 Posts
nvm seems pretty bad without shaper's touch and lvl 90+. could be a respec option for the luls | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 25 2017 08:25 r.Evo wrote: Damage and AoE goes up but it caps at 5 fuses, so that's a pretty pointless idea. =P Maybe I could do a Lioneye with 3 RATs. Have both hit and explosion scale from totem and projectile damage for extra single and area damage. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On July 25 2017 09:19 ASoo wrote: Ignite does no damage, but Chance to Ignite is good. It has a "% More Fire Damage" mod on it now. You don't do your damage with ignites, you use ignites to trigger self damage with Eye of Innocence to proc Tukohama, War's Herald a bajillion times per second, and scale your Flame Totem's hit damage with Immolate plus a bunch of more multipliers. Vs bosses you only do 3 hits and 3 ignites or something. Also from that video your base damage is % of the totem's life and that one is not scaled by any supports making it a bad damage source. This build is more hipster than any I done before lol. What about Firestorm totems? Anyone knows if they are good at farming and boss killing? Crit FireStorm totems? They are supposed to hit area of effect 20 times in 2 seconds, what is the expected hit rate for every enemy inside the area? Seems like that build either has low AoE or low hit rates per enemy... I tried Blight Totems on my standard character yesterday.. it is terrible just like Flame Surge. While Flame Surge totems do decent damage but have terrible AoE , Blight totems have good AoE but take way too long to ramp up its damage vs even white enemies. It was giving me cancer to play that build lol even for that 1 hour :D Now I am afraid Firestorm totem will have a similar problem with needing 2 seconds or more to just kill white enemies and also not that great AoE. Maybe I should try Vortex totems or something... Or Frostbolt totems (with zero investment in totem passives) and self cast Ice Nova. If there was a debuff channeling skill for Cold (like Wither or Scorching Ray) that would work wonders. Can you imagine. You put a totem that fires Frostbolts and you channel something that debuffs and casts Ice Novas at same time that hit everything that totem fires at :D When I first read Frostbolt description I went to make a Frostbolt+cast on crit strikes+Vortex build until I read that cast on crit strike does not work with spells.... why GGG??! Why  | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On July 25 2017 17:09 -Archangel- wrote: Vs bosses you only do 3 hits and 3 ignites or something. Also from that video your base damage is % of the totem's life and that one is not scaled by any supports making it a bad damage source. This build is more hipster than any I done before lol. What about Firestorm totems? Anyone knows if they are good at farming and boss killing? Crit FireStorm totems? They are supposed to hit area of effect 20 times in 2 seconds, what is the expected hit rate for every enemy inside the area? Seems like that build either has low AoE or low hit rates per enemy... I tried Blight Totems on my standard character yesterday.. it is terrible just like Flame Surge. While Flame Surge totems do decent damage but have terrible AoE , Blight totems have good AoE but take way too long to ramp up its damage vs even white enemies. It was giving me cancer to play that build lol even for that 1 hour :D Now I am afraid Firestorm totem will have a similar problem with needing 2 seconds or more to just kill white enemies and also not that great AoE. Maybe I should try Vortex totems or something... Or Frostbolt totems (with zero investment in totem passives) and self cast Ice Nova. If there was a debuff channeling skill for Cold (like Wither or Scorching Ray) that would work wonders. Can you imagine. You put a totem that fires Frostbolts and you channel something that debuffs and casts Ice Novas at same time that hit everything that totem fires at :D When I first read Frostbolt description I went to make a Frostbolt+cast on crit strikes+Vortex build until I read that cast on crit strike does not work with spells.... why GGG??! Why You can take a look at this Cauteriser Bladefall Totem Chieftan, should be solid, tanky and decent dps. Not that great a starter though because it gets a fairly large boost from a level 4 empower. Maybe it gives you ideas though. https://pastebin.com/8fAZPNdz | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10837 Posts
2 Additional Traps. 60% Trap Trigger Radius. 54% Trap Damage 15% für Frenzycharge on Trigger Its a bit out of the way but from "Clever Construction", that everyone gets, its just 8 Points, on the way you can take up Acrobatics. Herbalism, Expeditious Munitions, with another 3 Points you reach the "Revenge of the Hunted" and "Thick Skin" Clusters and for another point you reach "Point Blank". I quickly threw this together: Its probably a bit light on life for HC but else? https://poeplanner.com/AAgAAOsACDYPAHKw2KLZyBT1b2qMFr91_YRv1EK1SCaVYeLb53BRdm9-sNhUtMXC7AW1jb_UI1FHMHx_K1b6kA0zeOc6G-CNfSP2TZJ7DW066KTo1iLqMgGyGc96d9fjn2egh3ZKfetjES9irGyMnapsCPGKN9TtP1JTPV8OSO4Vt3XsGGSqm4ZqNsHFf8bjhCsKl5VMs66zQZbQ9QVCLJwRLXyD6-6FMpctSU-8qtAf7-sRlgQHg9tVxjpYMtFFR8BmBLOiAPAfPAXvfDY9Yet6U6KjwfMI1HNt8PmVIC0fVUtiT8kGZ05vd_afNxcAAAAAAA== | ||
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HolydaKing
21254 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [enjoy] + MT6KB-HB7PC-ZNJPJ-JMFFT @Velr: Keep in mind that the new unique armor will be bad with Saboteur trapper, see reddit. That's if you were intending to use it anyway. It also explains why the node you mentioned isn't that good. | ||
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