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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10833 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 16:10:36
July 17 2017 16:01 GMT
#24681
Whats wrong with bladefall against mobs? Just because of aiming? I for some reason just really dig bf as a skill

And why does Arc work as trap but feels trash "normal" against every tough enemy? Just because tons of Arc at once evens out the dmg rolls?
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
July 17 2017 17:21 GMT
#24682
Are you guys playing in the 3.0 beta atm?

Waiting for official release, which I thought would of been early July, but looks like not yet huh?
Forever Young
Merckinator
Profile Joined December 2009
United States15 Posts
July 17 2017 18:54 GMT
#24683
I've played a couple of the new acts so far in the beta.

I don't think it'll be released until at least early August.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 17 2017 19:17 GMT
#24684
On July 18 2017 01:01 Velr wrote:
Whats wrong with bladefall against mobs? Just because of aiming? I for some reason just really dig bf as a skill

And why does Arc work as trap but feels trash "normal" against every tough enemy? Just because tons of Arc at once evens out the dmg rolls?

Firstly, Bladefall is cool with totems and selfcast, I agree. The aiming is shit with mines after they changed it, with traps it should be OK. On the second matter what you say is exactly why.
ASoo
Profile Joined November 2010
2865 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 20:13:08
July 17 2017 20:12 GMT
#24685
On July 18 2017 02:21 sung_moon wrote:
Are you guys playing in the 3.0 beta atm?

Waiting for official release, which I thought would of been early July, but looks like not yet huh?

I'm playing beta, but the guild's been quiet lately, I think a lot of people are beta'd out and either racing or playing other games.

My drops and trades have been absurdly lucky in beta round 2, I'm a little sad it won't carry over.
incinerate_
Profile Joined October 2010
172 Posts
July 17 2017 20:48 GMT
#24686
On July 17 2017 18:47 Alur wrote:
Just got another beta key, who wants?


If no one has claimed it yet I'll gladly take it.

Regarding 3.0 Release: The news on Friday stated that we may get a final release date this week! Also I think it's the first time that the name of the new challenge league (Harbinger) was officially confirmed?

Bladefall: How hard did it get hit by AOE changes? Haven't played it in a while. Last time I tried by the way Bladefall totems considerably outclassed shockwave totems...
Subflow
Profile Joined August 2016
52 Posts
July 17 2017 21:00 GMT
#24687
He guys, im actually a total casual, when it comes to poe... but i might try playing it again so for a while and i just wanne have fun and slay monsters as fast as possible :D
Can anyone recommend me a Cheap, and fun build for HC for the current patch?
And with cheap, i mean so cheap that i can play through merciless with more or less just selffound gear.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 17 2017 21:21 GMT
#24688
On July 18 2017 06:00 Subflow wrote:
He guys, im actually a total casual, when it comes to poe... but i might try playing it again so for a while and i just wanne have fun and slay monsters as fast as possible :D
Can anyone recommend me a Cheap, and fun build for HC for the current patch?
And with cheap, i mean so cheap that i can play through merciless with more or less just selffound gear.

SRS Necromancer. Just get Purity of Elements once you reach Merciless so you cap your resists and you are set.

For finishing Merciless almost any build will work. For HC make sure you put lots of points into life and also use zombies so they can distract enemies for you. But SRS are your main damage dealer so always make sure they are connected with most links.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 17 2017 21:55 GMT
#24689
On July 18 2017 06:21 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 06:00 Subflow wrote:
He guys, im actually a total casual, when it comes to poe... but i might try playing it again so for a while and i just wanne have fun and slay monsters as fast as possible :D
Can anyone recommend me a Cheap, and fun build for HC for the current patch?
And with cheap, i mean so cheap that i can play through merciless with more or less just selffound gear.

SRS Necromancer. Just get Purity of Elements once you reach Merciless so you cap your resists and you are set.

For finishing Merciless almost any build will work. For HC make sure you put lots of points into life and also use zombies so they can distract enemies for you. But SRS are your main damage dealer so always make sure they are connected with most links.

Zombies are bad advice, a decoy totem does what they should be doing - just better and with less links.

This video gives a reasonable introduction to what's all the rage right now in this regard: Baron SRS specifically.

In terms of item progression (especially now that Baron surged in price) I'd recommend 3L wand -> 4L helm (both with +1 Fire/+1 Minion gems respectively) -> 4L Baron OR 5L staff -> Baron (if you didn't get one yet) -> 6L staff (via Dark Mage cards). It depends a bit on card prices what exactly is smarter and you need to assume 100-150 alts for +2 Fire Gems. It's definitely a highly enjoyable build that goes fast.

In general when you say "HC for the current patch" it needs to be said that right now is a bit of a weird spot. People never really played HC perm leagues, the HC temp league (Legacy) has been going on for a while and isn't crazy active and most of the action is in the 2 week leagues right now, people are playing around in beta for 3.0 or are waiting for the actual release.

Unless you're already invested in HCL I'd recommend the 3.0 beta, the two week is pretty competitive and market prices reflect this. That's also a way to get an idea of what the game will look like in ~2 months time, I'd look at it in SC though, especially since the balance is still a bit off in some spots.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 17 2017 23:31 GMT
#24690
On July 18 2017 06:55 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 06:21 -Archangel- wrote:
On July 18 2017 06:00 Subflow wrote:
He guys, im actually a total casual, when it comes to poe... but i might try playing it again so for a while and i just wanne have fun and slay monsters as fast as possible :D
Can anyone recommend me a Cheap, and fun build for HC for the current patch?
And with cheap, i mean so cheap that i can play through merciless with more or less just selffound gear.

SRS Necromancer. Just get Purity of Elements once you reach Merciless so you cap your resists and you are set.

For finishing Merciless almost any build will work. For HC make sure you put lots of points into life and also use zombies so they can distract enemies for you. But SRS are your main damage dealer so always make sure they are connected with most links.

Zombies are bad advice, a decoy totem does what they should be doing - just better and with less links.

This video gives a reasonable introduction to what's all the rage right now in this regard: Baron SRS specifically.

In terms of item progression (especially now that Baron surged in price) I'd recommend 3L wand -> 4L helm (both with +1 Fire/+1 Minion gems respectively) -> 4L Baron OR 5L staff -> Baron (if you didn't get one yet) -> 6L staff (via Dark Mage cards). It depends a bit on card prices what exactly is smarter and you need to assume 100-150 alts for +2 Fire Gems. It's definitely a highly enjoyable build that goes fast.

In general when you say "HC for the current patch" it needs to be said that right now is a bit of a weird spot. People never really played HC perm leagues, the HC temp league (Legacy) has been going on for a while and isn't crazy active and most of the action is in the 2 week leagues right now, people are playing around in beta for 3.0 or are waiting for the actual release.

Unless you're already invested in HCL I'd recommend the 3.0 beta, the two week is pretty competitive and market prices reflect this. That's also a way to get an idea of what the game will look like in ~2 months time, I'd look at it in SC though, especially since the balance is still a bit off in some spots.

Man you went way too technical. I suggested zombies because the guy is a casual and just wants to finish merciless. zombies are useful for a minion build from start until end of merciless. They are just not good enough for endgame (but you can still use them for mid level maps if you want)
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
July 18 2017 00:01 GMT
#24691
Zombies are trash at all levels though, and it's not like srs is particularly hard to level up with. So long as you understand how to make a +1 fire wand you're laughing.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 18 2017 00:16 GMT
#24692
On July 18 2017 09:01 bo1b wrote:
Zombies are trash at all levels though, and it's not like srs is particularly hard to level up with. So long as you understand how to make a +1 fire wand you're laughing.

Don't agree. They are useful when you are already focusing on minions and using a minion ascendancy. You link them with minion speed and minion life and they are decent enough. Combined with Haste and using proper offering they are useful enough. Why waste time summoning decoy totems that your passives don't buff when you can be casting SRS to kill your enemies and you resummon zombies after tougher battles. Good enough for a casual player not interested in doing Shaper runs.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
July 18 2017 00:32 GMT
#24693
On July 18 2017 05:48 incinerate_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 18:47 Alur wrote:
Just got another beta key, who wants?


If no one has claimed it yet I'll gladly take it.

Regarding 3.0 Release: The news on Friday stated that we may get a final release date this week! Also I think it's the first time that the name of the new challenge league (Harbinger) was officially confirmed?

Bladefall: How hard did it get hit by AOE changes? Haven't played it in a while. Last time I tried by the way Bladefall totems considerably outclassed shockwave totems...

Sorry mate gave it to a friend.
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vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
July 18 2017 01:47 GMT
#24694
Wander got movement skill finally ah yis.
LagLovah
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada552 Posts
July 18 2017 03:37 GMT
#24695
On July 18 2017 09:16 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2017 09:01 bo1b wrote:
Zombies are trash at all levels though, and it's not like srs is particularly hard to level up with. So long as you understand how to make a +1 fire wand you're laughing.

Don't agree. They are useful when you are already focusing on minions and using a minion ascendancy. You link them with minion speed and minion life and they are decent enough. Combined with Haste and using proper offering they are useful enough. Why waste time summoning decoy totems that your passives don't buff when you can be casting SRS to kill your enemies and you resummon zombies after tougher battles. Good enough for a casual player not interested in doing Shaper runs.


Not to pick on you, but a casual would probably quit after the 600th zombie he summoned trying to kill normal dominus in futility.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 18 2017 03:40 GMT
#24696
honestly doesn't look like much of a movement skill, more about damage
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3441 Posts
July 18 2017 05:14 GMT
#24697
It's a moving attack so 6L cwc with Mjolner/Cospri seems pretty promising.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
July 18 2017 05:31 GMT
#24698
On July 18 2017 14:14 vndestiny wrote:
It's a moving attack so 6L cwc with Mjolner/Cospri seems pretty promising.


Sure, but i'm doubtful its going to be the shield slam of KB/Barrage wanders
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
July 18 2017 06:34 GMT
#24699
Yeah so hopefully some significant changes happen in the next patch, or we're gonna have path of KB Mines, GC Mines, SR/RF, SRS, Sunder, and maybe Cyclone (espec Ngamahu). Right now so many skills are awful, it's like GGG basically cut the viable end game builds down to 25% of what they were.
Yuljan
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
2196 Posts
July 18 2017 08:31 GMT
#24700
Anyone needs a beta key? Just got a second one.
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