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Depends how the spells work
Discharge, for example, applies instantly to the aoe whereas something like magma orb doesn't hit instantly so they would synergize assuming you do lightning or cold discharge and not fire. you'd kinda have to test to see when the spells hit but as long as it's not truly simultaneous I think it would work well
Plus you can always run some added ele dmg to ur attacks in order to proc EE for the spells that follow the attack right? Basically you can usually figure out a way to make it work and it kinda owns
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On April 02 2016 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Depends how the spells work
Discharge, for example, applies instantly to the aoe whereas something like magma orb doesn't hit instantly so they would synergize assuming you do lightning or cold discharge and not fire. you'd kinda have to test to see when the spells hit but as long as it's not truly simultaneous I think it would work well
Plus you can always run some added ele dmg to ur attacks in order to proc EE for the spells that follow the attack right? Basically you can usually figure out a way to make it work and it kinda owns
Yeah I thought about the weapon applying EE too, for example through ring/amulet elemental damage for example. I'm kind of doing this for burn and enhancing Flame Surge damage.
Hmm... Instant Spells would be Frost Nova / Shock Nova / Flame Surge for example? Damn this is hard to figure. :D
Perhaps Something like Storm Call + Magma Orb + Freezing Pulse would work, though not sure if that would be better. I honestly doubt it.
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On April 02 2016 03:23 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2016 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Depends how the spells work
Discharge, for example, applies instantly to the aoe whereas something like magma orb doesn't hit instantly so they would synergize assuming you do lightning or cold discharge and not fire. you'd kinda have to test to see when the spells hit but as long as it's not truly simultaneous I think it would work well
Plus you can always run some added ele dmg to ur attacks in order to proc EE for the spells that follow the attack right? Basically you can usually figure out a way to make it work and it kinda owns Yeah I thought about the weapon applying EE too, for example through ring/amulet elemental damage for example. I'm kind of doing this for burn and enhancing Flame Surge damage. Hmm... Instant Spells would be Frost Nova / Shock Nova / Flame Surge for example? Damn this is hard to figure. :D Perhaps Something like Storm Call + Magma Orb + Freezing Pulse would work, though not sure if that would be better. I honestly doubt it.
Another thing to consider is that whether the spell triggers on crit is rolled individually according to the wiki. So you might get unlucky streaks which could e.g. affect your life/mana leech if you rely on that for staying alive.
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On April 02 2016 03:23 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2016 03:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Depends how the spells work
Discharge, for example, applies instantly to the aoe whereas something like magma orb doesn't hit instantly so they would synergize assuming you do lightning or cold discharge and not fire. you'd kinda have to test to see when the spells hit but as long as it's not truly simultaneous I think it would work well
Plus you can always run some added ele dmg to ur attacks in order to proc EE for the spells that follow the attack right? Basically you can usually figure out a way to make it work and it kinda owns Yeah I thought about the weapon applying EE too, for example through ring/amulet elemental damage for example. I'm kind of doing this for burn and enhancing Flame Surge damage. Hmm... Instant Spells would be Frost Nova / Shock Nova / Flame Surge for example? Damn this is hard to figure. :D Perhaps Something like Storm Call + Magma Orb + Freezing Pulse would work, though not sure if that would be better. I honestly doubt it.
Instant + non-instant is going to be pretty bad most of the time. The instant will disco-inferno on itself while the non-instant starts spawning its projectiles and they travel. It won't actually start being beneficial until you're standing still holding down the CoC button and letting out a constant stream of stuff.
So worse for: White packs, blue packs, rares, weak uniques, scary map bosses that you want to move against.
Better for: Dried Lake Voll.
Non-instant + non-instant is going to be pretty bad almost all the time. You would need spells with similar travel speeds and hitboxes and even then the 70% cast chance means you can't actually set it up to be a Symphony Of Spells, you're going to need each element to just be a solid wave of damage.
Instant + instant on the other hand can actually work. But the 70% chance is still going to be a thing unless you're blowing well past the CoC cooldown and the math for if it's good and how good it is makes me dizzy.
With the spells it would take to actually get it running it's hard to imagine it could ever be better than just using good spells.
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Thanks for your input guys. After thinking more myself and reading your comment I agree with your last sentence Lachrymose.
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Dang, ripped my 60 something Whispering Ice witch to reflect elemental damage, and then about an hour later my 82 witch to Merc Izaro.
Not a good day today :/
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Just beat normal mode  Is cruel just basically the equivalent of Diablo's nightmare mode? Extra resistances/ traits on the monsters, experience loss penalty on deaths, rarer drops, otherwise same quests and strategies as normal mode, etc.?
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On April 03 2016 08:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Just beat normal mode Is cruel just basically the equivalent of Diablo's nightmare mode? Extra resistances/ traits on the monsters, experience loss penalty on deaths, rarer drops, otherwise same quests and strategies as normal mode, etc.?
cruels the same experience but you get -5% xp when you die (if ur softcore idk) and you have -20% to your total resistances so you need more from gear/passives
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Cruel is the most pointless difficulty in the game, its ezmode tbh. You will find that once you beat act 4 of one difficulty the game difficulty is a non-issue until you get to act4 again.
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On April 03 2016 08:34 Kickstart wrote:
Cruel is the most pointless difficulty in the game, its ezmode tbh. You will find that once you beat act 4 of one difficulty the game difficulty is a non-issue until you get to act4 again.
didnt you die to vaal smash with vaal spark gear
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On April 03 2016 08:39 wubskis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2016 08:34 Kickstart wrote:
Cruel is the most pointless difficulty in the game, its ezmode tbh. You will find that once you beat act 4 of one difficulty the game difficulty is a non-issue until you get to act4 again. didnt you die to vaal smash with vaal spark gear
That was in merciless! (and how dare you)
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On April 03 2016 08:40 Kickstart wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2016 08:39 wubskis wrote:On April 03 2016 08:34 Kickstart wrote:
Cruel is the most pointless difficulty in the game, its ezmode tbh. You will find that once you beat act 4 of one difficulty the game difficulty is a non-issue until you get to act4 again. didnt you die to vaal smash with vaal spark gear That was in merciless! (and how dare you)
my bad fam
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With freezing pulse, should I use LMP or GMP? Apparently each minion is only hit by one fp projectile (no more shotgunning?), and I'm not sure if I need the arc that five projectiles allows at the expense of dps/ mana.
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no more shotgunning, FP was my first build ever, and that was fun lol... too bad it sucks now ;(
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It doesn't suck, it's still quite strong. I'd rather use GMP instead of LMP for more clear speed, but it's up to you.
It only sucks when compared to other OP spells. Not hard to make a strong build with Freezing Pulse.
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Thought so, thanks
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Alright I hit 40/40.
What to do now =/.
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On April 04 2016 11:29 vndestiny wrote:
Alright I hit 40/40.
What to do now =/.
I would say give me your t10+ maps on HC. But you still haven't changed your machine, right? So I assume you are in SC.
Just start another character build you want to do. That's what I would do. Or use the new trade improvements that came on april 1st and become rich. 
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I did it. Lab enchantments done, 4 hours of chain lab runs with 5 minute clears to get 2 helm and a boot enchantment. Now its just pay2lookcool and zana left. 40/40 inc.
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