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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 08 2015 18:45 GMT
#20141
I think you're tanky enough to survive reflect. You're non crit, reflect got severely nerfed and you have a pretty big lifepool.
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
December 08 2015 18:55 GMT
#20142
On December 08 2015 10:55 Uranium wrote:
Here's a tree for 2.1 version of the above, can also be easily switched to a crown of eyes wand/dagger attack build. Accepting constructive criticism on how I could be more efficient.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMA37CCEI-mRKtVriycES18g-vumuCFMqcIRZ2dro9GU1IabJuhNun3weQi99cYaiSqKU-smDlSFm9rt-w4OlgRD1gH42qFfYKbOthVxkwt216aOycvg9sUsFAw4XOQVZphgh6iABo4x8rbC8Hz8B8Es8lEoqNo8sBmvu5_xj9zEZaTJ2znDkgHHu-ICaBd8uOEtzCVLvk3znAqCysKDdHoWvDV189wUhEvY0MmiElRSbGJ0-tjjDY2PVVLbWydqlWFYeLssGyMpcsmlYwLYqwWv7l8rfEYXZ48jHY=

(don't click the link - load it with the PoESkillTree 2.2.3 or above)

You are two points away from 5 different jewel sockets, jewels are definitely worth two points, I'm just not sure exactly what to drop for them.
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 19:05:48
December 08 2015 19:02 GMT
#20143
imallinsons changes seem legit, but I'd take sanctity and go through lightning damage towards celestial punishment for sure, like so;

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwAAt9bYTdtZlKAtqNpisZC-gGh0GFaDCfnoRnFBh7QM4Yi3PsrTHar-Cr6K8kXYvZMnoS864TWSf8bviKZX_o_Bxfk3TePsGIhC18-P-nC7gh5JsfDVFLDbC0lRlS5MLQceEQ9-rzsNrJiNGe_rOlj31-ASVcabodlfg9uPRhhq3YynCHgvna7r7nzlGmzli5rghTIc3FgHNun3weQiG_FFnY8aJKrVpn7HU1IWb-08-tLjapo7Zp4XL-FzgptyD2TnogCUb1nzcYVV1vAfBLNmVBo4zLdXKYCkaPLAZpBV1XVG1ycvsUI=

Breath of Rime might also be superior to Heart of Lightning, +10% freeze chance is a lot when you're casting fast, and with CotB it doubles as an offensive and defensive node.

Edit: Yeah I'd probably use elemental weakness.
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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
December 08 2015 19:07 GMT
#20144
On December 09 2015 03:41 travis wrote:
Yeah I noticed the ZO/vaal pact problem after I posted. But are you sure this build won't need vaal pact? With double *more* multipliers, I will be safe from reflect?


Reflect isn't a problem for non crit especially as its not an aura anymore.

On December 09 2015 03:41 travis wrote:
The problem with getting a little less reservation, is that I will have literally no mana to use. It would be pretty good to have 1 or 2 casts worth of mana I think, since I am using MoM, it would leave me unable to cast at all if I take a big hit, and having no mana at all to use is going to slow me down if I am casting a lot and use up my battery.


The thing is if you take a big hit MoM is going to take that 10% unreserved mana as well and you aren't set up to regen that. This is just an issue you kind of have to deal with when using MoM. You could consider running vaal clarity for emergencies.

On December 09 2015 03:41 travis wrote:
you are right about my auras, but the HoT will be linked to culling strike and innervate, which puts my total reservation at 132(I think).

I do really like getting to celestial judgement and punishment though

I suppose I would be able to use your tree for sure if I got an alpha's howl


Its a nice thing to do but I don't think its worth the nine points you were spending to get charisma. You can fit it in if you have an Alpha's so that's a much better option.

On December 09 2015 03:41 travis wrote:
and question: how does storm weaver interact with lightning to cold conversion?


The lightning damage applies before the conversion so you get the full effect of lightning damage and half the effect of cold damage (because only half your damage is converted) so storm weaver is 37.5% damage for you.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 08 2015 19:45 GMT
#20145
My take on Non-Crit-Arc:

I would prefer starting as Shadow and a different tree with more cast speed. Like this:

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwYARXyXlxXn8Gtzs4w2VUtQQmHiUzUmlZMnFr--ii-df8bviKEvytMW8zBbwcX5N7QMJjysl-wYiELXz-q6RnGVh4_6cLuCHkmxDXyDCeGIHYPw1dsLV8mxkB2qSVGVLij6LagHHriTgse-gBzc-ejr7o8aQYea4IUypwi3PkWdna6PRv4KU1IabOWLm6HYvTbp98HkIhvxGGokqtWmfsd4LxZv7Tx85frS42qaO1gHZp4XL-FzgptyD2TnogCUb1nzcYVV1vAfBLNmVBo4zLdXKYCkaPLAZpBV1XVG1ycvsULyRTrhplc=
Uranium
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1077 Posts
December 08 2015 20:02 GMT
#20146
Oh well if we're doing EBMOM versions then I'd do it as a witch. More energy shield, and you gain the "prevent interruption from stuns while casting" nodes. I'd drop the HOT and just do wrath / double curse, it's a big point commitment to get all of that -reserve.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMA37DfioIQ6QKPpkuuRKtVriycK3gRLR_HfIMti-vumuCFMhzcpwhFnY8ana6PRtgkU1IabJuhhW026ffB5CL31xhq1YEkqilPrJg5UiTYFm_sODpYEQ9YB-Nqgps62IV7VcZ-rzsNTC2aOycvZlSD240Z7-sUsOFzkFWUb-ASgh6iABo4cg_ZX9sLwfPwHwSzcYXdjKKjaPLAZlcpf8ZG1xGWkycOSAcevoovne-IXfK3MJUuoS8W8_k3KgsrCuha8NUmPNfPcFIRLyaISVFJsYnT62OMNjY9VUudqmHibIwmlWKsFr8=
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 20:10:35
December 08 2015 20:06 GMT
#20147
On December 09 2015 05:02 Uranium wrote:
Oh well if we're doing EBMOM versions then I'd do it as a witch. More energy shield, and you gain the "prevent interruption from stuns while casting" nodes. I'd drop the HOT and just do wrath / double curse, it's a big point commitment to get all of that -reserve.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwMA37DfioIQ6QKPpkuuRKtVriycK3gRLR_HfIMti-vumuCFMhzcpwhFnY8ana6PRtgkU1IabJuhhW026ffB5CL31xhq1YEkqilPrJg5UiTYFm_sODpYEQ9YB-Nqgps62IV7VcZ-rzsNTC2aOycvZlSD240Z7-sUsOFzkFWUb-ASgh6iABo4cg_ZX9sLwfPwHwSzcYXdjKKjaPLAZlcpf8ZG1xGWkycOSAcevoovne-IXfK3MJUuoS8W8_k3KgsrCuha8NUmPNfPcFIRLyaISVFJsYnT62OMNjY9VUudqmHibIwmlWKsFr8=

Looks good too. I guess there are many different good ways to play it. Though for your tree I'd remove the 4 points for Mental Rapidity (the mana reg is useless) and go for Crackling Speed, even if the Crit Multi is pretty useless as well.

Oh and getting Storm Weaver too in case he gets that unique ring.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
December 09 2015 02:20 GMT
#20148
I probably play a bit of Talisman league, not on Friday itself though. Much more hype for Ascendancy anyway.
That day I'm moving moving back home for an 8-month vacation so there will be plenty of time.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 05:25:09
December 09 2015 02:34 GMT
#20149
did you just say 8 month vacation

patch notes are out
nerf to vaal ground slam, didn't touch vaal spark. odd.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 10:29:30
December 09 2015 08:58 GMT
#20150
On December 09 2015 11:34 travis wrote:
patch notes are out
nerf to vaal ground slam, didn't touch vaal spark. odd.

yeah that makes zero sense.

great patch notes though. lots of deserved buffs and a few nerfs!

edit: chill of corruption got nerfed too, they added that to the patch notes. so a small vaal spark nerf too.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 09 2015 11:46 GMT
#20151
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A short instance-wide cooldown has been added to many monster skills. Monsters with "bursty" skills have had this cooldown applied to reduce player deaths from fast, hard-to-predict damage. This includes skills such as Leap Slam, Flicker Strike, Shield Charge, Lightning Warp and Arctic Breath. Most of the affected skills are appropriate as initiation skills, but are not ideal when many monsters perform them simultaneously.


IM A SIMPLE MAN. Instant hype.
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beg
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
991 Posts
December 09 2015 13:52 GMT
#20152
On December 09 2015 11:34 travis wrote:
did you just say 8 month vacation

patch notes are out
nerf to vaal ground slam, didn't touch vaal spark. odd.

I'm new to the game. Started two weeks ago.

So people actually make use of these Vaal gems? Vaal Spark was the first I found. And it still feels rather underwhelming to me, having to collect so many souls to use it once.

Can anyone shed a little light?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 09 2015 14:37 GMT
#20153
Vaal spark is actually really strong, you can clear an entire map in about 30 seconds with it if done correctly
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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
December 09 2015 14:38 GMT
#20154
new patch hype.

Now the crapshoot of trying to find a viable build starts. Maybe either lightning strike, arc, spark, fireball or idk...
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 15:02:19
December 09 2015 15:01 GMT
#20155
On December 09 2015 23:38 keit wrote:
new patch hype.

Now the crapshoot of trying to find a viable build starts. Maybe either lightning strike, arc, spark, fireball or idk...

Viable? If you don't care about Atziri like me, I think all of those listed by you are viable. Arc, Lightning Strike and Spark especially seem interesting. Though last time I played Lightning Strike I really didn't like it so I don't think I would now. And Fireball probably isn't that hot. I'd rather try Magma Orb.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 15:10:48
December 09 2015 15:10 GMT
#20156
The change that gives zone wide cooldown to bullshit monster skills (leap, flicker, etc) is pretty awesome

keit: have you already decided you want to go caster?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 09 2015 15:26 GMT
#20157
On December 10 2015 00:10 travis wrote:
The change that gives zone wide cooldown to bullshit monster skills (leap, flicker, etc) is pretty awesome

keit: have you already decided you want to go caster?

Well, he mentioned Lightning Strike so I guess no.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 16:19:23
December 09 2015 16:18 GMT
#20158
Wonder if RF works again

I kinda want to do some sort of walk around, shit dies + some Vaal skill for big packs/ bosses. Maybe fireball + chain?

Lazy build dreams
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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
December 09 2015 17:26 GMT
#20159
On December 10 2015 00:10 travis wrote:
The change that gives zone wide cooldown to bullshit monster skills (leap, flicker, etc) is pretty awesome

keit: have you already decided you want to go caster?


Well last patch I ran cyclone so I'll try some ranged this time I think.

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imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
December 09 2015 19:16 GMT
#20160
They did nerf vaal spark indirectly by nerfing chill of corruption. Also to get the 30 second map clears you needed a map with an easy layout and good mob density and a lot of expensive gear. The build slows down so much if you can't constantly have vaal spark active.
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