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imr.e
Profile Joined August 2011
112 Posts
November 23 2011 22:35 GMT
#2241
On November 24 2011 07:26 Doraemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 07:22 imr.e wrote:
On November 24 2011 06:58 Doraemon wrote:
barcelona is just a complete team. just wow...
we're just too old and slow and couldn't keep up. gave them too much space to do whatever they wanted. but damn they're are so freaken good


You need at least two midfielder really good at tackles/defense, but with seedorf/aquilani it was really hard. Nocerino would have been more useful imo.


don't get me started on seedorf. the guy just doesn't defend, or pretends to. aquilani should have been sent off. it's sad to say but we really need to find a replacement for nesta, his body just ain't holding up any more =[
zambrotta/gattuso/seedorf should not be playing another game. we don't apply enough pressure, going to come back to bite us

i reckon we'll draw madrid next round like we usually do ==


Mexes if he recovers (/hope so) was bought and shown that he's able to be the replacement for Nesta. There is still the problem of Zambrotta, noboy is better than him atm, and that should not be too hard, wondering wtf Criscito is doing in Russia.

I really think that Gattuso could give the inspiration necessary to fight at least on an equal footing in the midfield, he's no longer that great but he still has the will needed imo.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4927 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-24 07:37:45
November 23 2011 22:39 GMT
#2242
On November 24 2011 06:48 NuclearJudas wrote:
Arsenal beats Borussia Dortmund 2-1. Van Persie scores both. Fuck yes!

Bah. Götze and Bender both injured after the first third of the game, and still Dortmund should have done better.

I don't know why I watch Dortmund's games in the Champions League anymore, they always disappoint.

edit: lol, those Bender twins really confuse me, I want to give them different names all the time
imr.e
Profile Joined August 2011
112 Posts
November 23 2011 22:42 GMT
#2243
On November 24 2011 07:39 Maenander wrote:
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On November 24 2011 06:48 NuclearJudas wrote:
Arsenal beats Borussia Dortmund 2-1. Van Persie scores both. Fuck yes!

Bah. Götze and Bendtner both injured after the first third of the game, and still Dortmund should have done better.

I don't know why I watch Dortmund's games in the Champions League anymore, they always disappoint.


they should qualify tho, beating Marseille at home should be more than doable.
kazansky
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 23:11:07
November 23 2011 23:00 GMT
#2244
Most likely over for Dortmund


Besides, I need some cluster aided number crunching on this one:

Its about the Chelsea group, you can find it here:
http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2012/standings/round=2000263/group=2001389/index.html

German football magazine kicker.de sportal.de claims, Leverkusen is through to playoffs, while Chelsea must win their last game.
I understand the former, but I don't get the latter.

Let me explain quick my thoughts:
Uefa-reglement says, if two or more teams end up with same points, direct comparison determines progression.

The first part, Leverkusen's granted spot in playoffs, is clear to me after some thinking.
Chelsea play the last game against Valencia, and Leverkusen is up 1 point with 9 compared to the others both 8.
So if Leverkusen wins or draws against Genk, they are through just by points.
If they lose, and either team wins, they are through aswell by points.
If they lose, and the other game ends draw, the direct comparison between the 3 teams decides.

The table for this would mean:

Leverkusen (6 pts, 2-0-2, 5-7)
Valencia (4 pts, 1-2-1, 5-4 (+X-X))
Chelsea (4 pts, 1-2-1, 4-3 (+X-X))

Which means Leverkusen first, Valencia second to Chelsea due to X:X draw score. So the statement of Leverkusen has secured playoffs, granted.

But now, we does Chelsea MUST win?

If Leverkusen does NOT lose their match (which is most likely), the direct comparison of Valencia and Chelsea counts.
In case they play a goalless draw at Stamford Bridge, is 1-1 from Valencia and 0-0 from London, resulting in Chelsea advancing due to scored away goal.

Where is my wrong though? What am I missing? I am confused.





On November 24 2011 07:42 imr.e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 24 2011 07:39 Maenander wrote:
On November 24 2011 06:48 NuclearJudas wrote:
Arsenal beats Borussia Dortmund 2-1. Van Persie scores both. Fuck yes!

Bah. Götze and Bendtner both injured after the first third of the game, and still Dortmund should have done better.

I don't know why I watch Dortmund's games in the Champions League anymore, they always disappoint.


they should qualify tho, beating Marseille at home should be more than doable.



Even if they win, they are in a bad spot due to direct comparison. They need to score at least 3 goals to advance against Marseille.
And that doesnt even matter if Olympiacos wins against Arsenal.
"Mathematicians don't understand mathematics, they get used to it." - Prof. Kredler || "That was more one-sided that a mobius strip." - Tasteless
rapture
Profile Joined January 2003
Germany645 Posts
November 23 2011 23:41 GMT
#2245
imo chelsea advances if they win or play 0:0 as you have said.

if the match ends in a higher draw as 1:1 valencia advances because they scored the higher number of goals away from home between the teams.
if the game result is 1:1 the goal difference from all group matches gives valencia the advantage.
fbs
Profile Joined February 2003
United Kingdom2476 Posts
November 24 2011 01:23 GMT
#2246
nice job Apoel Nicosia
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 26 2011 17:49 GMT
#2247
Horrendous penalty decision in the United/Barcodes game fucks up my accumulator. Injury time winner incorrectly given offside as well, Krul godmode and at least one clearance off the line. Displeased.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
BloodDrunK
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bangladesh2767 Posts
November 26 2011 17:57 GMT
#2248
On November 27 2011 02:49 sixfour wrote:
Horrendous penalty decision in the United/Barcodes game fucks up my accumulator. Injury time winner incorrectly given offside as well, Krul godmode and at least one clearance off the line. Displeased.


Totally agree with this. the officiating by the referees were worse than shite. but tim krul did play very well.

But imao, MANU totally deserved to win the match.
You have the power to create your own destiny.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28916 Posts
November 26 2011 23:53 GMT
#2249
so real madrid has almost won primera division. just gotta draw one classico game.
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Pads
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
England3228 Posts
November 27 2011 13:21 GMT
#2250
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2066812/Wales-manager-Gary-Speed-dead.html

Pretty devastating, my thoughts are with his family
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28916 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 13:29:52
November 27 2011 13:29 GMT
#2251
:'(

seems like it's kind of out of the blue, but I guess he's just been good at maintaining a facade. lots of players struggle with coping with retirement.
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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2109 Posts
November 27 2011 13:47 GMT
#2252
On November 27 2011 08:53 Liquid`Drone wrote:
so real madrid has almost won primera division. just gotta draw one classico game.

just shows how boring la liga is. A 2 team race with a winner confirmed 6 months before the season ends. They should make a league for RM and Barca only. :s
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 27 2011 13:51 GMT
#2253
such horrible news about gary's death. seems only last year that he was our manager, because it was. one of the true legends of the english game, i'm still in shock now
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
kroko
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Finland2136 Posts
November 27 2011 14:08 GMT
#2254
Good way to win a game
I have Sick Timing and UnReal Macro
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28916 Posts
November 27 2011 14:12 GMT
#2255
On November 27 2011 23:08 kroko wrote:
Good way to win a game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xu21C0EOeg&feature=player_embedded


wtf? AGAIN?

this is from early october :
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Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
November 27 2011 14:16 GMT
#2256
RIP Gary Speed, still cant quite believe it.
Live and Let Die!
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
November 27 2011 16:42 GMT
#2257
On November 27 2011 08:53 Liquid`Drone wrote:
so real madrid has almost won primera division. just gotta draw one classico game.


Agreed, Barça now needs to win to even get back on the race, 6 points behind is a sh*t ton when it comes to this 2 teams, the Championship it's Real Madrid's to lose atm...
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
Twisted
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands13554 Posts
November 27 2011 17:39 GMT
#2258
LOL Balotelli's hair.
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TranceStorm
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
1616 Posts
November 27 2011 17:53 GMT
#2259
Balotelli is brilliant at times and mind-boggling awful as well. The red card was probably a bit harsh I have no clue what he's thinking at any time.
Sanctimonius
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom861 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-27 18:07:04
November 27 2011 17:56 GMT
#2260
On November 27 2011 23:16 Tommylew wrote:
RIP Gary Speed, still cant quite believe it.


So sad to hear. By all accounts he was doing a great job at Wales and turning them into a hard team to beat - 5 wins in ten games. Young and talented. RIP.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-15911321

Very touching interview with Robbie Savage, former Welsh international who played with Speed for many years. It just highlights how much of a shocl this was to everyone who knew him - Speed did a tv spot yesterday, Savage spoke to him and there was apparently no sign of anything wrong or affecting Speed.
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