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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 21:34:20
June 18 2011 21:28 GMT
#161
guys why did FF14 tank? I keep hearing that it sucks. what they do wrong with it?

okay I found some stuff on it...jeez you would think that Square Enix would put more quality time within the game. It's not just about fancy graphics or slapping on the FF brand ya know.
Dreamscythe
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland273 Posts
June 18 2011 21:29 GMT
#162
When FF14 was released it wasnt finished. loads of broken things,think Square enix replaced developer team and now the game is free until they get it ready.
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Oscar Wilde
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 18 2011 21:35 GMT
#163
On June 19 2011 06:29 Fckbl wrote:
When FF14 was released it wasnt finished. loads of broken things,think Square enix replaced developer team and now the game is free until they get it ready.


do i have to buy a copy first?
Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
June 18 2011 21:40 GMT
#164
On June 19 2011 06:35 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 06:29 Fckbl wrote:
When FF14 was released it wasnt finished. loads of broken things,think Square enix replaced developer team and now the game is free until they get it ready.


do i have to buy a copy first?

yes
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Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-18 21:58:53
June 18 2011 21:50 GMT
#165
I played the beta for ffxiv and yea, it was pretty bad. After it got released and it tanked they fired the entire dev team and brought in the FFXI team. They fixed alot of stuff but it still doesnt feel like a FF game.

BUT, there is suppose to be a so called "golden patch" released this month. Its going to bring back all the classic FF jobs, fix the entire combat system and revamp everything. SE is working really really close with the community on this, they even have a list of things they want to change and when they'll try to get it done by. They seem to be on schedule pretty much. I don't play now but its really interesting to follow just to see how the community and game devs are working together.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
June 18 2011 22:41 GMT
#166
On June 19 2011 06:50 Chro wrote:
I played the beta for ffxiv and yea, it was pretty bad. After it got released and it tanked they fired the entire dev team and brought in the FFXI team. They fixed alot of stuff but it still doesnt feel like a FF game.

BUT, there is suppose to be a so called "golden patch" released this month. Its going to bring back all the classic FF jobs, fix the entire combat system and revamp everything. SE is working really really close with the community on this, they even have a list of things they want to change and when they'll try to get it done by. They seem to be on schedule pretty much. I don't play now but its really interesting to follow just to see how the community and game devs are working together.


lol i wish blizz did this with us T_T
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
June 18 2011 22:53 GMT
#167
Tactics is the best, one of the greatest JRPGs of all time and one of the best stories ever told in a video game (in my opinion, second only to Xenogears) + some of the best villians and characters in video game history (Delita OMG c: )

other than that...

9>7>6 >>> 10>4>13>X-2>8>5

Didn't play the others.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 01:40:39
June 19 2011 01:39 GMT
#168
On June 19 2011 05:21 Greggle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2011 22:02 Arkless wrote:
Using American Numbering system (because I am not an elitist)

Final Fantasy VII - It's exactly as good as anyone who allegedly overrated it has said. It gets a lot of flak for how prominent it is, but it really deserves it. It isn't without its flaws though. Cloud is to me honestly the weakest character in the game. He has a story behind him, but not much of a personality. Everyone else is so vibrant and interesting. Tifa tries to support and understand Cloud and compete with Aeris. Barret tries to save the world from the slums and coming to terms with his past in Corel, support his daughter and deal with the guilt of his terrorist actions. Aeris tries to live normally knowing she is something so radically different from everyone else and accepting her fate. Cid, is one of the few people around with a good heart, but with the most hostile demeanor, even one upping Barret, trying to do good for the world. Cait Sith starting as a Shinra spy and eventually sympathizing with AVALANCHE and betraying Shinra entirely while trying to gain everyone's trust. Red XIII was also rather weak in my opinion, and Yuffie and Vincent aren't really as involved, but I love them both. Even the Turks are great in all their comic relief. Cloud is just quiet and mysterious, plain if you ask me. Materia was fun and interesting though it could have been improved by making more physical attack oriented materia besides a few overpowered ones at the end of the game. That's all I can really complain about though. Everything else in this game is nigh-perfect.

I think I'd agree with what you said here. I really did like most of the game, it's just that the main protagonist and antagonist were incredibly uninteresting. This wouldn't be much of a problem if it was like FFXII where Van is utterly irrelevant to the actual plot, but that wasn't the case. The game revolved around Cloud and Sephiroth but they were both such weak characters. Sephiroth in particular was such a disappointing villain because he came right after Kefka, who was probably the greatest villain in the whole series. The whole tension that drove the game revolved around two lunatics that didn't really have much meaning. Sephiroth was basically a pathetic psycho with an Oedipus complex the entire game. That just doesn't make a very interesting villain.

But, I have to admit. The first disc of FFVII was pretty much perfect.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 02:33:35
June 19 2011 02:01 GMT
#169
Best FF games imo, in no particular order:
FF2
FF4
FF5
FF6
FF7
FF8
FFTactics

That's it.
Sup
Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
June 19 2011 02:11 GMT
#170
There's a guy on youtube, named HCBailly, who does a very thorough Let's Play series on these games. So if you just want to get an idea of what you missed out on, you can watch him play. I saw some of his ff6 and chronotrigger, since it was my favorite game.

My personal favorites were

6 - I beat this at least 10 times. Only 1 flaw imo, it shouldn't have let every character learn magic. Also vanish/doom tricks made it too easy if you discovered it, or if you learned how to joker's doom, which I didn't learn until after emulators.
4 - It was really well done in the DS remake.
7 - very good, the materia system was nice
9 - solid game
11 - pretty fun, but mmo's take too much time for me, played for a couple months then quit
8 - I just played most of the game with Squall, killed off the 2 party members, to lvl him fast and used his super or ran
10 - ok, but couldn't get into it.
5 - pretty fun, didn't play until on emulator years later
3 - played on ds, was mindless fun
1 - lol cute
2 - lol bad
12-14 - never played

Tactics series are cool, probably belong near the top, maybe behind ff9. I could never play them more than once, and every battle was way too slow for me.

ChronoTrigger probably belongs at #2.
Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 02:20:13
June 19 2011 02:19 GMT
#171
On June 19 2011 11:11 Spicy Pepper wrote:
There's a guy on youtube, named HCBailly, who does a very thorough Let's Play series on these games. So if you just want to get an idea of what you missed out on, you can watch him play. I saw some of his ff6 and chronotrigger, since it was my favorite game.




HCBaily does a lot of Let's plays, which i have seen almost all of his. I highly recommend watching some let's plays by him if you want to see someone play through the game without missing much but also bringing fun commentary to the game. The best part about his let's play is he doesn't read out the lines of characters and actually just comments on the game play/why hes doing something.


edit: hes also doing FFTactics after he finishes Lufia 2 and i cannot wait for it as tactics is one of my more favorite FF)
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
June 19 2011 02:30 GMT
#172
gonna try fft 1.3, hopefully its fun
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garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
June 19 2011 02:41 GMT
#173
2 and 5 are my favourites (thus far!). I started with the first and have been playing them in chronological order. I played the first when I was only 4 or so, but only resumed the series almost 10 years later with its release on the GBA.

I'm on FF9 now. Disc 3. Been putting off finishing it for several months. I'm really hoping I just wake up one day, feel motivated (or inspired) to play it, and finish it. I hate having it sit around unfinished. Not as bad as FF8, which I played up until Ultimecia's Castle, and then didn't beat it for another 1-2 years.

2 just did the whole RPG thing "right" in my opinion. Great characters, interesting stat system, cool weapons, and the traditional spells.

5 gave me all the same good feelings that 2 did, plus it had motherfucking GILGAMESH and the battle on the big bridge. 2 and 5 baby. Awesome games.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 08:55:42
June 19 2011 06:24 GMT
#174
I got a question for the FF9 fans. I got Quina and I am collecting Blue Magic. I learned Mustard bomb and it inflicts Heat onto the enemy. So isn't this like an instant kill move?! I just used it on an enemy and they immediately died.

Heat - Instantly KOs the inflicted if they use any command/move/

edit:

beat gizamulke!

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Dreamscythe
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland273 Posts
June 19 2011 12:42 GMT
#175
Think it does. works on many common enemies but for bosses and harder mobs it doesnt work. If people are starting to play FF9. after lindblum hunting contest go for chocobo forest and find all chocographs and go dig em up. Vivi get's awesome staff from that and also all sort of cool stuff
Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Oscar Wilde
billyX333
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-19 13:02:36
June 19 2011 12:58 GMT
#176
On June 19 2011 06:28 Golgotha wrote:
guys why did FF14 tank? I keep hearing that it sucks. what they do wrong with it?

okay I found some stuff on it...jeez you would think that Square Enix would put more quality time within the game. It's not just about fancy graphics or slapping on the FF brand ya know.

The list of problems is really far far too long to list. I'm not just saying that for effect either. They had to fire their stubborn producer for a new one now they constantly release Q and As as well as small patches as an apology to their fan base. Before they fired the head producer, they had completely ignored the fan sites criticism during beta and kept making stupid excuses until they realized their game is terrible and no body likes it. All the current players are all playing solely because they expect the game to release a megapatch that will magically fix it. Every news article on all the fan sites are dedicated to Q and As from producers, patch notes, and speculation on possible future changes etc etc etc. none of them would play if the game was guaranteed to remain in its current state

Some random problems:
1) interface and combat was really laggy and unreactive
2) No auction house. I thought it was just for release so economy wouldnt be fucked with but the producers were really just stupid
3) stupid repair system
4) very limited inventory
5) no quests. no town mission. at the time, there were no notorious monsters. essentially you farmed just to farm just to farm some more. as soon as i asked my self, "why am i doing this and what am i looking forward to?" i immediately realized that i've experienced everything the game had to offer (almost nothing)
6) fatigue system. enough said. most retarded idea ever created
7) partying is terrible. at the time, the experience was worse and no class had a very defined role. producers were stubborn saying "we didn't want the typical tank healer damage dealer dynamic blah blah blah"
8) did i mention there were no quests? there was nothing to do except beat up mobs all day and craft. crafting was fun but that is the game's only improvement upon ffxi
9) combat system was really boring and just bad. they are adding auto attack and some other dynamics to the combat system to make it more like ffxi though
I used to read zam and ffxivcore and there are far better critiques of the game than mine. Far far far more flaws I'm positive i'm forgetting so thats just a short list.

The game's only saving grace:
-Beautiful graphics and scenery
-the crafting/harvesting system is amazing. it was actually fun and not at all a grind (at least for me)

I played it in beta and played it during the first month or so of release. Its so bad and unrefined that square has repeatedly given away free months to all subscribers (I havent kept up to date but they've given away at least 3 months to all subscribers, i think significantly more by now actually) The game was so bad, I unsubscribed and quit, regardless of my many months of free time I had been given

astroorion
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1022 Posts
June 19 2011 13:02 GMT
#177
For anyone that has an iPhone/iPod Touch, if you didn't know I think Final Fantasy 1-3 have all been released for it
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 19 2011 19:54 GMT
#178
On June 19 2011 22:02 astroorion wrote:
For anyone that has an iPhone/iPod Touch, if you didn't know I think Final Fantasy 1-3 have all been released for it

For anyone that has a jailbroken iphone/ipod touch, use cydia to get the NES/GBC/SNES/GBA/PS1 emulators to experience at least half of the final fantasy games.

By the way, surprised no one has mentioned the old ass gameboy Final Fantasy games. They were decent, I guess, but didn't hold a candle to zelda.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
jeeeeohn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1343 Posts
June 20 2011 05:21 GMT
#179
Added a poll to the OP.

@ the person who asked me about Lost Odyssey, sorry I didn't answer before. Got hung up. Lost Odyssey was a poor game, in my opinion. The battle system was alright, but the story was awful (like they extracted all the interesting bits out of Planescape Torment). It was just a generic "IMMA GONNA GETCHU EVIL GUY" plot, sprinkled with dull characters. Not to mention it was overly difficult (tanks! knights! godzilla!). idk, for me, the effort=! reward
If you can't jam with the best, then you have to slam with the rest.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 20 2011 05:40 GMT
#180
Why is there no tactics in the poll?
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