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Mannerheim
Profile Joined April 2007
766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 20:39:09
July 06 2011 20:23 GMT
#941
On July 07 2011 05:11 Shade692003 wrote:
I've played a little bit of SF4, never played SSF4 and jumped o AE on PC. I'm getting bodied by everyone. Like 80-85% loses. Honestly I'm not having fun =/ I think I'll stick to offline.


That's fighting games for you, if you can maintain a 20% win rate over your first 100 games you're doing quite well. You'll get better eventually, and it helps to stop for a while after each loss and think about the match, what you did wrong and what did your opponent do right. E.g. if you got thrown all the time, focus on that in your next match and try to get it right.

Also the single most important advice I ever got: block more. Stop pressing so many buttons and just block. Especially when people are jumping at you, unless you're 100% confident in your AA moves and ranges, just block it. If they're poking at you and you can't seem to get a single move out without getting counter hit, keep blocking.
Raekhor
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium97 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 20:45:24
July 06 2011 20:28 GMT
#942
I'm trying out SFIII third strike fight for the future since I haven't played a SF game before. I can't even get past stage 5 without any losses >.<. Got more trouble with some characters than others though
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
July 06 2011 20:31 GMT
#943
On July 07 2011 05:28 Raekhor wrote:
I'm trying out SFIII third strike fight for the future since I haven't played a SF game before. I can't even get past stage 5 from the first try without any losses >.<.Got more trouble with some characters than others though

Ken is the best character for a noob imo.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 06 2011 20:32 GMT
#944
Kens kinda the best character for a noob in SF4 as well, good DP and simple inputs.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Raekhor
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium97 Posts
July 06 2011 20:39 GMT
#945
Meant as an opponent (I already play Ken). Dudley wipes the floor with me: if I miss a block once, then he chops 3/4th of my hp away with a combo i can't block (to my knowledge, only found out how to parry an hour ago )
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
July 06 2011 20:44 GMT
#946
I'm not 3S expert so I can't really help lol, good luck though.

I'm going to be streaming SF again, see how bad my Yun is until I get angry and switch to gief

If streaming makes me lag though I'll have to turn it off (My stream should be listed on the non-featured streams list, near the bottom alphabetically ofc).
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
July 06 2011 20:44 GMT
#947
On July 07 2011 05:28 Raekhor wrote:
I'm trying out SFIII third strike fight for the future since I haven't played a SF game before. I can't even get past stage 5 from the first try without any losses >.<.Got more trouble with some characters than others though


Well, 3s was made over ten years ago. That game is also fantastic, but was made before they started making things easier in fighters.

If this is your first time playing a fighter and you can't win a match online, instead of just mashing through hundreds of matches until you learn it could be more beneficial to watch a few tutorial videos to get a feel for what fighters are all about.

Knowing a basic punish for your character is 100% necessary, as is knowing a basic poke, and depending on the character, some basic anti air that you can reliably do. Without those things, it's like you playing starcraft without being able to macro correctly. All the brilliant decisions in the world won't win a game if you don't have the basic mechanics to back it up!
kaisr
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada715 Posts
July 06 2011 20:47 GMT
#948
On July 07 2011 05:23 Mannerheim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 05:11 Shade692003 wrote:
I've played a little bit of SF4, never played SSF4 and jumped o AE on PC. I'm getting bodied by everyone. Like 80-85% loses. Honestly I'm not having fun =/ I think I'll stick to offline.


That's fighting games for you, if you can maintain a 20% win rate over your first 100 games you're doing quite well. You'll get better eventually, and it helps to stop for a while after each loss and think about the match, what you did wrong and what did your opponent do right. E.g. if you got thrown all the time, focus on that in your next match and try to get it right.

Also the single most important advice I ever got: block more. Stop pressing so many buttons and just block. Especially when people are jumping at you, unless you're 100% confident in your AA moves and ranges, just block it. If they're poking at you and you can't seem to get a single move out without getting counter hit, keep blocking.


how important would u say practicing combos and stuff are? I can't seem to get FADCs down, should I just go in training room and practice till i get it?
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
July 06 2011 20:53 GMT
#949
So does anyone actually know what the point of these localised releases is?

I'm pretty pissed off right now, because my pre-load has been cut-off 82% in and if I had started it just a bit earlier I'd be able to play by now.
Raekhor
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium97 Posts
July 06 2011 21:01 GMT
#950
Steam can't release the game as they see fit. If the producer has a contract with stores in a certain region to release on date x, steam isn't allowed to release it before date x.

Not entirely certain of this but I'm pretty sure this is how it goes down, stores would complain cause of unfair competition.
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 21:08:19
July 06 2011 21:03 GMT
#951
On July 07 2011 06:01 Raekhor wrote:
Steam can't release the game as they see fit. If the producer has a contract with stores in a certain region to release on date x, steam isn't allowed to release it before date x.

Not entirely certain of this but I'm pretty sure this is how it goes down, stores would complain cause of unfair competition.

Didn't think of that, actually makes a whole lot of sense :/
Still, they could at least have waited a bit longer to take down the pre-load.

edit: just looked at my downloads: 8961.8MB/9224.0MB. Cant have worse luck than that.
itsben
Profile Joined July 2010
435 Posts
July 06 2011 21:11 GMT
#952
When something is preloaded you don't actually get to play it until its unlocked. At least that's how it was with other steam games.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 21:18:53
July 06 2011 21:12 GMT
#953
On July 07 2011 05:47 kaisr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 05:23 Mannerheim wrote:
On July 07 2011 05:11 Shade692003 wrote:
I've played a little bit of SF4, never played SSF4 and jumped o AE on PC. I'm getting bodied by everyone. Like 80-85% loses. Honestly I'm not having fun =/ I think I'll stick to offline.


That's fighting games for you, if you can maintain a 20% win rate over your first 100 games you're doing quite well. You'll get better eventually, and it helps to stop for a while after each loss and think about the match, what you did wrong and what did your opponent do right. E.g. if you got thrown all the time, focus on that in your next match and try to get it right.

Also the single most important advice I ever got: block more. Stop pressing so many buttons and just block. Especially when people are jumping at you, unless you're 100% confident in your AA moves and ranges, just block it. If they're poking at you and you can't seem to get a single move out without getting counter hit, keep blocking.


how important would u say practicing combos and stuff are? I can't seem to get FADCs down, should I just go in training room and practice till i get it?


You don't need to be able to FADC if you can't block crossups, and anti-air people. I'd recommend sticking with the basics of fighting games "Blocking and Punishing" Once you have those down a bit more solid then you can start learning more of the advanced stuff like Option Selects and FADC.

Like stated above its important to not just press buttons in hopes of hitting them back. Keep blocking until they whiff a big move like a shroyuken or something that's easily punishable.

If you want to go into training mode, just learn a basic bread and butter for your character. You can also use the record option to work on blocking cross overs and blocking anti-airs
"DrBoo is an elaborate troll" -Pufftrees
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 21:17:23
July 06 2011 21:16 GMT
#954
On July 07 2011 04:33 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 23:47 101toss wrote:
On July 06 2011 17:02 Zlasher wrote:
Ended a 1-17 night 3-17 by picking gief wtf

spin stick, hit light punch, have meter? hit two buttons, have ultra? hit 3 punches.

shits so dumb

Soon you'll be a B level gief like me


It's just frustrating when people say Yun is a mashfest and then you hop on gief. hold down back and hit roundhouse once in a while to get closer, if they throw fireballs greenhand in to get closer, if they jump, lariat. and once you get JUST out of poke range you're already in light SPD range.


fffffaaaaaaaaaaa

The best is roundhouse whiff (or far block)->l.spd. Catches so many people off guard. Also, I love ultra 1, instahalfhealthGG
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
July 06 2011 21:20 GMT
#955
On July 07 2011 04:35 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Yeah that's why I said until B rank, because once you reach 5000 BP you start getting punished a lot more in BP for losses. I've never reached A rank but I imagine it's even more punishing than B rank, meaning you have to maintain a higher and higher win ratio against most opponents in order to keep climbing in BP. In D rank you lose no BP ever, in C you lose only a little compared to what you win, in B it's about even.

I've gotten to B+ with Ken on regular SSFIV, and yeah, losses are somewhat punishing (though not too punishing). I can imagine once you hit A though, it will be a mother fucker
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
July 06 2011 21:28 GMT
#956
On July 07 2011 06:11 itsben wrote:
When something is preloaded you don't actually get to play it until its unlocked. At least that's how it was with other steam games.

Not this time around. If you had the pre-load you coud actually play this online. Because I only have a part of the game I could only get to the starting screen and register my key to GFWL.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
July 06 2011 22:04 GMT
#957
On July 07 2011 05:39 Raekhor wrote:
Meant as an opponent (I already play Ken). Dudley wipes the floor with me: if I miss a block once, then he chops 3/4th of my hp away with a combo i can't block (to my knowledge, only found out how to parry an hour ago )

are you playing online or against the computer?

if you lose against the computer, i don't know what to say. i just walk forward and hit fierce and they die. and i'm pretty sure dudley doesn't have a 3/4 health combo, especially not the computer.

(actually i was playing SF4AE on a machine the other day and was waiting for someone to come up and play, so just for fun i decided to do nothing but mash jab. i won. i really hate being at the arcade and playing the computer.)
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
July 06 2011 22:08 GMT
#958
damnm i shouldve read forums. i cant even login into window live or w.e.
Toolshed
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
337 Posts
July 06 2011 22:11 GMT
#959
can someone comment on the PC playerpool? is there always someone in your ranking range? how long do you have to wait for an opponent etc.?
Raekhor
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium97 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 22:41:31
July 06 2011 22:41 GMT
#960
On July 07 2011 07:04 kainzero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 05:39 Raekhor wrote:
Meant as an opponent (I already play Ken). Dudley wipes the floor with me: if I miss a block once, then he chops 3/4th of my hp away with a combo i can't block (to my knowledge, only found out how to parry an hour ago )

are you playing online or against the computer?

if you lose against the computer, i don't know what to say. i just walk forward and hit fierce and they die. and i'm pretty sure dudley doesn't have a 3/4 health combo, especially not the computer.

(actually i was playing SF4AE on a machine the other day and was waiting for someone to come up and play, so just for fun i decided to do nothing but mash jab. i won. i really hate being at the arcade and playing the computer.)


I'm playing street fighter III third strike to practice.
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