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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2011 00:36 GMT
#3301
The Heat aren't dominating. This actually looks just like most of Game 1 and Game 2 where Dallas isn't playing well but they are good enough to stay close.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 06 2011 00:37 GMT
#3302
On June 06 2011 09:36 Ace wrote:
The Heat aren't dominating. This actually looks just like most of Game 1 and Game 2 where Dallas isn't playing well but they are good enough to stay close.


This is why i'm not worried lol. Just keep it close until James stops driving or somebody starts getting in his way.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
June 06 2011 00:47 GMT
#3303
On June 06 2011 09:36 Ace wrote:
The Heat aren't dominating. This actually looks just like most of Game 1 and Game 2 where Dallas isn't playing well but they are good enough to stay close.

It's not even Dallas not playing well, it's more like: Kidd is really old, Peja is really old, Terry is unbelievably bad at defense, and Barea is secretly terrible, but no team in the West had the personnel to take advantage like Miami does.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 06 2011 00:48 GMT
#3304
+ no Butler all playoffs. These games would be so diff if they had him out there as another option.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2011 00:49 GMT
#3305
And? Since when has being old mean you can't compete. For the last 4-5 years with the exception of San Antonio "old teams" have won the title or gotten far.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
June 06 2011 00:53 GMT
#3306
And the last 4-5 years featured a total of 0 teams with Miami's athleticism.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2011 00:54 GMT
#3307
And? once again how does that mean it's better than being "old". Athleticism isn't what wins - skill does. Miami wins because they are better and play hard, not because of athleticism.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
June 06 2011 00:56 GMT
#3308
Pretty impressive how well Kidd defends Wade.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 06 2011 00:58 GMT
#3309
On June 06 2011 09:54 Ace wrote:
And? once again how does that mean it's better than being "old". Athleticism isn't what wins - skill does. Miami wins because they are better and play hard, not because of athleticism.


Is anyone saying that Miami isn't playing hard or well? They are also super duper athletic. It's a positive - clearly a facet of their success.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
June 06 2011 00:58 GMT
#3310
Despite the fact Wade is dominating.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
June 06 2011 01:00 GMT
#3311
On June 06 2011 09:54 Ace wrote:
And? once again how does that mean it's better than being "old". Athleticism isn't what wins - skill does. Miami wins because they are better and play hard, not because of athleticism.

Are we watching the same game? Dallas is getting run off the court. Miami already has like 16 points off turnovers. There is a 38 year old guarding Wade.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2011 01:02 GMT
#3312
And that 38 year old has done very well all year long. Miami's defense is killing Dallas and a lot of it has to do with their scheme, not athleticism.

Are you going to attribute Wade's ability to get into the paint on his athleticism or on his dribbling ability?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 01:07:25
June 06 2011 01:07 GMT
#3313
On June 06 2011 10:02 Ace wrote:
And that 38 year old has done very well all year long. Miami's defense is killing Dallas and a lot of it has to do with their scheme, not athleticism.

Are you going to attribute Wade's ability to get into the paint on his athleticism or on his dribbling ability?


It's both.

What about the Heat's ability to close out on perimeter players? What about the length of Miami defenders? Wade has the largest wingspan of any point guard (he was a point guard coming out of Marquette) measured in like the last 10 years.

In basketball, there are three basic things you need to be good: physical prowess, smarts and skillz - with a "z." If you have 1 thing, you're probably just a rotation player at best. If you have 2 things, you're a starter. If you have 3 things, you're a superstar.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
June 06 2011 01:07 GMT
#3314
Ace, come on, athleticism is a HUGE factor .
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 06 2011 01:09 GMT
#3315
It's not as big as you think. There is always an athletic team and without the refined skill they dont go anywhere. Atlanta? OKC? Chicago? Every year there is hype about a young athletic squad doing damage and they don't win until they can refine their skill.

Miami's defense has athletic players but their scheme is killing Dallas. What about Boston, Chicago, Detroit? Were those hyper athletic defenses too?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 06 2011 01:13 GMT
#3316
Nice run by Dallas. One blatant Wade-flop from a 3 or 4 point difference.
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
June 06 2011 01:15 GMT
#3317
Obviously there is more to it than just athleticism, but it's still a huge factor. Blacks predominate for a reason.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 06 2011 01:16 GMT
#3318
On June 06 2011 10:13 On_Slaught wrote:
Nice run by Dallas. One blatant Wade-flop from a 3 or 4 point difference.


Also about 4 open shots missed and 7 shots at the rim Dallas couldn't convert from being about a 10 point lead. But that's all less important than talking about refereeing.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
June 06 2011 01:16 GMT
#3319
On June 06 2011 10:15 shmay wrote:
Obviously there is more to it than just athleticism, but it's still a huge factor. Blacks predominate for a reason.


LOL. Here we go.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 01:18:06
June 06 2011 01:17 GMT
#3320
On June 06 2011 10:02 Ace wrote:
And that 38 year old has done very well all year long. Miami's defense is killing Dallas and a lot of it has to do with their scheme, not athleticism.

Are you going to attribute Wade's ability to get into the paint on his athleticism or on his dribbling ability?

Who cares how he did all year long? How many Wades are there in the NBA? All that matters is this series.

The answer to the second part is both. If he had lead feet, all the dribbling ability in the world wouldn't get him anywhere.
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