EPTBarca vs Real Madrid - Page 34
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ApocAlypsE007
Israel1007 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On April 28 2011 05:58 Airship wrote: 2) Counter-attacking. In most competitive sports it's considered an art form. You see fighters in the ring concede initiative all the time. People use the possession stat as a shorthand for who has been in control of the match all the time because it usually works, but it doesn't always, and until the second half it didn't particularly mean much in this tie. I feel like I'm having to explain this to a baby. I'm not going to pretend I'm an expert on football, but I'd consider the way Germany was counterattacking during the WC an art. What Real Madrid did tonight... eh, not so much. | ||
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Airship
United States465 Posts
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ZeraToss
Germany1094 Posts
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Mithriel
Netherlands2969 Posts
On April 28 2011 06:02 Airship wrote: Fucking thank you. Do you people seriously think Real Madrid weren't trying to win? Restricting an opponent's movement and slowing down their passing play isn't an attempt to play outside of the rules, it's actually part of how you really play football. I thought having the ball at any given point was supposed to be part of football as well, instead of letting your opponent have it all the time (though i know what you mean). In the end, whoever scores one more goal than the opponent wins, thus wins. (And everyone would sign for winning the champions league while having 1% possession). Its just not a team i personally enjoy watching and therefor hope they lose badly  | ||
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Stuv
Netherlands942 Posts
If you grow up in such a culture you can not fantom why people enjoy that boring play like Real does with their 3 defending midfielders. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6235 Posts
On April 28 2011 06:06 Airship wrote: The thing is, while Madrid were trying it, Barcelona have a really good disciplined defense. It just never really gets mentioned by most clueless Barca fans. I do feel like it is a good way to try to face up against Barca if you've got the ability. It's not like madrid tried anything else than defend... If you even position pepe on the midfield then the intentions are clear. Btw you're as much as an anti fan as others are Barca fans and there is no need to call people clueless either. | ||
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Airship
United States465 Posts
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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Baz
United Kingdom289 Posts
On April 28 2011 06:03 Raavi wrote: Ofcourse it can be done. If you watched some of barca's earlier games in la liga, against some of the minor teams. You'll notice that many of the teams who doesnt dare to play football against barca and just defend, end up losing. While teams, even really bad ones compared to barca, who just go 'fuck it, lets just give it a shot' actually manage to play up to barca. You even saw it in the beginning of second half. Madrid came out blazing, they pressed barca and really started to control the game. Constant pressure, and barca made tons of mis-passing. And then pepe sees red, and it all falsl apart Erm, thats why Barca have gone 28 wins, 4 draws and 1 loss all season in La Liga. The only way to beat them is to be completely solid defensively and break at them with quality when you can | ||
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Spinfusor
Australia410 Posts
Should be in every Barca thread. But also this: | ||
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FatalT
Norway162 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6235 Posts
On April 28 2011 06:10 Airship wrote: If you can't appreciate the defensive aspect of the game, it's like being an MMA fan without understanding the ground game. We all love a fighter who stands and bangs but counterattacking jiu jitsu specialist Anderson Silva is the greatest pound for pound fighter. I can appreciate a good defense but going for so many defensive players and having no intentions of attacking isn't something I appreciate no. Plus barca has an outstanding defense and still try to be very offensive so yeah there are possibilities to have both a great defense and offense. | ||
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Sgany
United Kingdom790 Posts
Mourinho: "The return game is mission impossible. Barcelona has qualified for the final." | ||
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Sanya12364 Posts
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Airship
United States465 Posts
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
On April 28 2011 06:19 FatalT wrote: Mourinho would look like a genious if RM won by won goal, but now he looks like a fool. Why bring Ronaldo on in a game like this if u aren't gonna try to attack more? Now he's in for a hell of task, he must attack on Camp Nou, and it can get ugly if Barcelona gets the first goal in that fixture. Man Utd vs Barcelona in the finals 99,9%. Dunno who to root for there, love Man.Utd and Barcelona;d Ronaldo is the ideal player to counterattack with. In the Copa finals and in the 1H today, Madrid were getting better opportunities by having 7 players defend and Di Maria, Ozil, Ronaldo counter. Trying to be balanced is what got them 5-0'd. Agree, Barca v United is virtually guaranteed. Now Barca have no reason to ever give RM a counterattack opportunity (just pass all game if they want), and Schalke just look bad. | ||
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Enchanted
United States1609 Posts
On April 28 2011 05:52 Greem wrote: You country tag says it all my friend no offence, just head coach of R.Madrid , Pepe and they best player are from Portugal.Yep, just ignore the post and point that out ;D. | ||
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Raavi
Denmark156 Posts
On April 28 2011 06:17 Baz wrote: Erm, thats why Barca have gone 28 wins, 4 draws and 1 loss all season in La Liga. The only way to beat them is to be completely solid defensively and break at them with quality when you can Yeah because Barca in the end, simply is better. My point is that in the games were Barca had trouble was against teams that tried pressuring barca instead of just parking the bus. The majority of barcas opponents play very defensively, and yet, barca still wins. Letting barca control the game and hoping for random chance at some point is not a very good idea. Unless your in the situation like Inter-Barca last season. And even then its very risky. Just look at arsenal, was up 2 goals. Second leg they just parked the bus, and gave barca control, and lost. Ofc. you need a solid defence, but you need a solid offence aswell. Madrid didnt have that, even with a very scary bench. | ||
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