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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
April 24 2012 14:01 GMT
#3041
Surely the plasma gun needs a drawback as it is, give it like 10-15 ammo or something.
But yeah it looks like a money scam, to make people buy something imba and then nerf it later or maybe they just plan to turn pubs into one of those terrible p2w games to manage themselves and then it's up to the community to pick/balance the weapons and classes for competitive play.
I don't know if you can do that with custom servers :/

I do not understand neither the infiltrator pack or the raider pack in light of where they tried to go with the game before that.¨
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
MisterD
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1338 Posts
April 24 2012 16:15 GMT
#3042
welp played a bunch of ctf, still almost no raiders around, and the few i did see didn't hit a thing because the levels are still too large to get these close combat situations from the arena mode video a lot, so ctf is still playable. at least that's something
Gold isn't everything in life... you need wood, too!
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
April 24 2012 16:23 GMT
#3043
On April 24 2012 19:34 Esoterikk wrote:
Whats everyones views on the esport viability of this game, seems like it could be extremely fun to watch given the right spectator tools.


Theres only one game that I get more excited to watch than Tribes Ascend, and thats Quake Live. Given the right casters and Craig on camera, I will have a blast watching it. If you want an example, please watch Area 51 vs Deadstop, absolutely sick series.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Alakabon
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada111 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 16:50:12
April 24 2012 16:41 GMT
#3044
On April 25 2012 01:23 TBone- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 19:34 Esoterikk wrote:
Whats everyones views on the esport viability of this game, seems like it could be extremely fun to watch given the right spectator tools.


Theres only one game that I get more excited to watch than Tribes Ascend, and thats Quake Live. Given the right casters and Craig on camera, I will have a blast watching it. If you want an example, please watch Area 51 vs Deadstop, absolutely sick series.


Yeah, this game is super hard for the cameraman since there is so much stuff to watch. At the moment it seems cappers get the most love while they are setting up their route (which is wrong in my opinion... watching LO vs LD would be much more interesting) as well as snipers (which is wrong again imo.... although its my favorite class you just stand there shooting stuff while not moving much).

That being said Craig is quite good at it and always seems to be at the right place. Recently they also added a second camera in corners when important stuff happens simultaneously which is a very good move.
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
April 24 2012 17:12 GMT
#3045
Just for those wondering, plasma gun is hilariously op, reminds me of the jackal prenerf, nj5 might have lower dps than nj4 actually(gonna have team mate update the DPS charts) and the bullets are so much more slower. Cluster grenade is pretty much useless besides of rushing into gen room in pubs. Whiteouts(why the fuck were the ban on these lifted anyway) and emp are still better.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
April 24 2012 17:21 GMT
#3046
On April 25 2012 02:12 DCRed wrote:
Just for those wondering, plasma gun is hilariously op, reminds me of the jackal prenerf, nj5 might have lower dps than nj4 actually(gonna have team mate update the DPS charts) and the bullets are so much more slower. Cluster grenade is pretty much useless besides of rushing into gen room in pubs. Whiteouts(why the fuck were the ban on these lifted anyway) and emp are still better.


So how is the plasma gun actually overpowered? To my knowledge we haven't seen it in comp yet. But I'd like to hear your thoughts on what makes something overpowered. I mean there is so much that goes into balance, such as maps, class, damage to speed ratio. Where is it overpowered? In close quarters? In mid-ranges? You also have to keep in mind all the possible loadouts it will be facing.

Saying the plasma gun is overpowered is such a broad statement, and doesn't really mean that much unless you say how and where it is overpowered, supported by evidence of course.
Eve online FC, lover of all competition
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
April 24 2012 17:42 GMT
#3047
From what I've seen it's more the fact that mid-airing people with it is simply too easy. Gigantic projectile+high projectile speed = ohai no skill required for MA anymore.

On another note I tried watching some tribescast lately, but there's one guy who has the most absurd hick redneck accent I have ever heard and I just can't take it. Too bad for me, maybe..
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
DCRed
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland435 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 17:58:05
April 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#3048
On April 25 2012 02:21 TBone- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 02:12 DCRed wrote:
Just for those wondering, plasma gun is hilariously op, reminds me of the jackal prenerf, nj5 might have lower dps than nj4 actually(gonna have team mate update the DPS charts) and the bullets are so much more slower. Cluster grenade is pretty much useless besides of rushing into gen room in pubs. Whiteouts(why the fuck were the ban on these lifted anyway) and emp are still better.


So how is the plasma gun actually overpowered? To my knowledge we haven't seen it in comp yet. But I'd like to hear your thoughts on what makes something overpowered. I mean there is so much that goes into balance, such as maps, class, damage to speed ratio. Where is it overpowered? In close quarters? In mid-ranges? You also have to keep in mind all the possible loadouts it will be facing.

Saying the plasma gun is overpowered is such a broad statement, and doesn't really mean that much unless you say how and where it is overpowered, supported by evidence of course.


It's overpowered in many ways. First off raider's one weakness, only weakness really, was that he didn't have the instant splash damage gun but this was compensated by shield pack, insane smg, good nades. Now it has the thumper as well which makes the already strong raider even stronger. Second the gun itself is just so ridiculous, the projectile is big as fuck, I got 33 airmails in under 10 mins or something(didn't count time really) and many times when I thought that's a miss it wasn't. Couple that with rather fast projectile and fast speed(0,69, normal spinfusor is 1,87) the gun replaces raider's both primary weapons very easily.

Weapon stats, courtesy of Lumberjack/TTaM. http://ph-matt.dyndns.org/weapondamage.php

The NJ4 and NJ5 are pretty much identical, have to test NJ5 in game and see how I like it compared to NJ4

I don't even want instant splash damage weapon for raider really and I play raider mostly in comp. I've worked my ass off to be able to pull off nice GL shots and juke people indoors with it. Lucky for me the plasma will be banned in comp.
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
April 25 2012 00:12 GMT
#3049
Wow, the new plasma gun is so freakin OP...
Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 04:04:58
April 25 2012 02:31 GMT
#3050
The game got significantly less fun to play since the patch.

*edit*

Welp quitting this game until plasma is fixed, plasma is so broken its unreal, cannot play CtF whatsoever raider just floats around base 2 shotting everyone.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
April 25 2012 04:32 GMT
#3051
Glad to see these reactions, i played half a dozen arenas earlier and was dumbfounded the entire time. Didnt see a raider who could actuly aim get a k/d of less than 5-10 in a mode that literally gives you victory if your k/d is over 1.0
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
April 25 2012 06:10 GMT
#3052
i dont like the unintended consequences of the plasma gun. Now that there are more Raiders running about its harder to be a stealthy inf becuz of the jammers everybody carries now
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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
April 25 2012 08:09 GMT
#3053
mannnn i fucking love the pathfinder. being the fastest is such a strong advantage in any game if you know how to properly abuse it
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
April 25 2012 08:16 GMT
#3054
On April 25 2012 11:31 Esoterikk wrote:
The game got significantly less fun to play since the patch.

*edit*

Welp quitting this game until plasma is fixed, plasma is so broken its unreal, cannot play CtF whatsoever raider just floats around base 2 shotting everyone.


Same here. I loved this game, but the last update is 100% through and through pay2win. I'm done. We had a good time, HiRez.
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
Clownz
Profile Joined February 2009
Finland53 Posts
April 25 2012 08:52 GMT
#3055
Are there projectile speed stats to be seen somewhere?
Radical dude!
pettter
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1032 Posts
April 25 2012 08:59 GMT
#3056
On April 25 2012 17:16 Ethenielle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 11:31 Esoterikk wrote:
The game got significantly less fun to play since the patch.

*edit*

Welp quitting this game until plasma is fixed, plasma is so broken its unreal, cannot play CtF whatsoever raider just floats around base 2 shotting everyone.


Same here. I loved this game, but the last update is 100% through and through pay2win. I'm done. We had a good time, HiRez.

They'll nerf it within a week. Just stay away from game modes where the plasma rifle is an unbeatable advantage (CTF, possibly), or go to custom servers with NO RDR.
Muey
Profile Joined August 2007
Finland149 Posts
April 25 2012 09:12 GMT
#3057
On April 25 2012 17:52 Clownz wrote:
Are there projectile speed stats to be seen somewhere?

Yeah, I'm curious about the projectile speed of the NJ5 vs the NJ4.
Meatex
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia285 Posts
April 25 2012 09:33 GMT
#3058
I haven't played since the patch but sounds bad - im sure they will balance things out if its that bad
Loving the game so far even though I can only manage 200kph and pretty inconsistent with spinfusor :S

What is the tribes acend version of TL community site if anyone knows?
Really, why is real cheese so hard to come by in Korea? ^&^
DrainX
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Sweden3187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 10:32:08
April 25 2012 10:31 GMT
#3059
On April 25 2012 18:33 Meatex wrote:
I haven't played since the patch but sounds bad - im sure they will balance things out if its that bad
Loving the game so far even though I can only manage 200kph and pretty inconsistent with spinfusor :S

What is the tribes acend version of TL community site if anyone knows?

There isn't really a huge community similar to TL. The closest I can think of would be http://www.reddit.com/r/tribes. You also have news sites like http://www.spinfusor.org/ that post lots of quality content. The forum there isn't very active though.
Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 12:56:39
April 25 2012 12:56 GMT
#3060
On April 25 2012 18:33 Meatex wrote:
I haven't played since the patch but sounds bad - im sure they will balance things out if its that bad
Loving the game so far even though I can only manage 200kph and pretty inconsistent with spinfusor :S

What is the tribes acend version of TL community site if anyone knows?

www.tribalwar.com
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