I was a 1827 rated Zone player for AOE2: TC back in the day.

Play Huns, they don't use houses.
Learn to Flush with Skirms and Scouts.
Learn to TC Boom in the Castle Age while defending everything with good TC Placement.

http://www.mrfixitonline.com/ for pro replays on AOE2. Good luck.

littlechava

United States7221 Posts

June 28 2005 09:29 GMT

#24

this thread was made last year, why are people still replying to it?

gamecrazy

United States421 Posts

June 30 2010 03:35 GMT

#25

The year is now 2010, but I'm in a similar situation as exalted here. A cocky friend of mine thinks he's the bomb in RTS because he exclusively plays AoE2:TC. I figured, since I actually use the search function, that I would bump really old this thread.

Unfortunately, http://www.mrfixitonline.com/ recommended by IronMentality no longer seems to keep those old pro replays lying around. So, I'm left without a resource to beat this guy, except for the seasoned RTS veterans on TL who I'm sure know how to play Age of Empires II. I only got this game about 3 days ago, so I don't know the best builds to use at the moment.

OK, so this kid that I'm going to play already set some conditions: He always prefers to play on Sea of Japan as the Koreans. Some additional information I received when I prodded him was, he likes to wait, sit there, and wall up his base and mass up an army. However, he does not style himself to be a macro player... Basically, when he plays StarCraft, he goes one base BC's. So, what do I need to do to beat him? Any advice would be appreciated.

edit: I have 1.0c

Zalfor

United States1035 Posts

June 30 2010 03:58 GMT

#26

play as the huns

oh, i play AoC but shit, huns + scout rush is so powerful

AoE is actually a really difficult game imo. Check out voobly.com they have a competitive AoE thing going on there and they can help u a bit. also google AoE strats and flush and scout rush etc.

Iron_

United States389 Posts

June 30 2010 04:01 GMT

#27

I won the USA bracket of the world contest in AOE2 and was rated 2100 or so as a random map player. I went to pick it up again a while back but as some already mentioned above, mrfixit and many other sites have taken most everything down and there is nowhere to play, so I just waited on SC2.

Honestly if you are trying to learn aoe2 in a week you are screwed, there is way too much to learn. Go with the Huns, and use a 2 archery/1rax feudal age combo to pump skirms and spearmen. Stay away from gold and stone until your food starts to get plentiful, then get your gold and castle. If there is water go with a 3 dock all galley strat. Make galleys until you win the water, then make a ton of fishing boats. I used to use a fire boat rush, but that takes a lot of timing and knowledge of the game.

Good luck, its a great game.

Madkipz

Norway1643 Posts

June 30 2010 04:22 GMT

#28

Honestly if you are trying to learn aoe2 in a week you are screwed, there is way too much to learn. Go with the Huns, and use a 2 archery/1rax feudal age combo to pump skirms and spearmen.

This <,.<

I play competitive once a month with my friends (small scale lan party), while we all suck at the game we often end up with alot of feudal age rushes, i play as huns or Celts so i ended up going triple rax spamming spearmen and when i can afford it some footmen.

or when i face off against a friend of mine who loves to turtle i play french because their farms upgrade automatically and it makes for a nice knight rush with the addition of cheaper castles. In team i always go spain because of their relic and trade bonuses.

It all depends on what mode you are going for and whats allowed. You could opt for a wonder victory with franks or teutons but its not good on small island maps because of cannon galleys.

gamecrazy

United States421 Posts

June 30 2010 04:31 GMT

#29

Thanks for all the great at advice so far. I acknowledge that if i want a deep undestanding of the game, then in one week I am pretty much screwed. However, this friend of mine is not exactly a hardcore player, just a guy with more experience at this game than me. I'll be practicing the strats you guys suggested.

Also, I don't think I made this clear, but this guy does not play random map. He plays Sea of Japan (East Sea) almost exclusively. And it is an island map, so I think I'd better use those water strats, namely massing galleys, correct?

Belegorm

United States330 Posts

June 30 2010 04:57 GMT

#30

lol this is nostalgic, AoE2:TC was the first game I ever bought and I have a lot of fun memories. Though since I was like 11 I pretty much just played with like 10 apm with cheats against the A.I., but I had a lot of hours with that game.

At one point, I did attempt to play AoE1 online (at the time I was trying out the original, then decided to go online). When I read my first strategy guide, it basically told me to proxy double rax (which is basically the idea I had for a long time of what early game is like in rts's).

So, what to take from this weird post? Proxy rush!

P.S. On second thought, obviously if it's an island map (lol dude) just try and win at a macro game, really. Just beat him with mechanics. When I started playing BW with my buddies at college, I was pretty much the only "serious" player who'd look up liquipedia for pro strats and BOs and what-not. What my friends would do is sit behind a wall of cannons and mass carriers.

What I ended up doing is just showing how much more successful it is to play the game "proper" (at least what's standard in this day and age) and I destroyed their massive fleet of carriers with goons and ht (which they were shocked at, that big ships could die without me teching to carriers myself).

OoFuzer

Chile436 Posts

June 30 2010 05:37 GMT

#31

Hi, AoC is pretty active and the game strategies have changed a lot. If you want to learn, I reccomend to you to check some recorded games.

http://www.aoczone.net is the main community of AoC, where you can find all news about it.

If you are going to play a water map, and you want to fight via water, pick Vikings. ALso you can drop at his island fastly and pump Archers. at aoczone you can download thousands of replays. Just look for water maps recorded games.

gl

Iron_

United States389 Posts

June 30 2010 15:41 GMT

#32

If he plays an island map exclusively he probably hates early attacking, so go with an early attack. You will want to feudal around 10:30 - 11 minutes with your third dock getting up at that same time, then start building 3 galleys.

I had a better early galley rush with Huns than Vikings, but of course vikings take over as you build more. Go with huns though for simplicities sake, without the hastle of building houses you will have an easier time, and that is more important since you dont know what you are doing.

Find his docks and kill his fishing, then boom your own fishing. At that point you are way ahead econ wise since you basically have 4 towncenters to his 1. Go to castle age, drop a couple villagers and make stables, then go in for the kill.

I'd say that is the easiest thing to learn to win an island game.

gamecrazy

United States421 Posts

July 01 2010 02:33 GMT

#33

Thanks for the link OoFuzer, finally an active AoC site. I'll be looking for water replays there. I'll be trying out your strategies against computers under the same conditions as when I'm going to be playing my opponent. I'm a little busy with work so I may not play him for a week or two, but when I do, I'm going to update this with results. (unlike the original post)

ZidaneTribal

United States2800 Posts

July 01 2010 03:00 GMT

#34

build a motherfucking castle in his face yo

Hidden_MotiveS

Canada2562 Posts

July 01 2010 03:12 GMT

#35

I think celts are a good water civ with their bonus to wood. On island maps, I would do a nooby thing, age up when possible, continuous villager production until you decide you can get a couple longswords. Then head to castle, then transport a bunch of villagers, longswords, and build a castle in his face asap. Sometimes worked because people expect you to wait longer to attack.

You should check out the youtube vids of people playing the game, I'm not caught up with the new strategies.

There was a broken unstoppable saracen monk rush, and teutonic tcs were overpowered, but I don't think those strategies work on islands.

Arrian

United States889 Posts

July 01 2010 03:25 GMT

#36

I play this game a bunch still. I'm horrendously bad at it but it warms my heart to see that some people still play it.

Elite00fm

United States548 Posts

July 01 2010 03:29 GMT

#37

what is the tl.net of AoE2? I just downloaded it today and started playing after a long time

KissBlade

United States5718 Posts

July 01 2010 03:57 GMT

#38

Iron's got a good idea but I doubt you will beat your friend. If he picks koreans on island maps, he knows at least the basics of island warfare better than you do (Koreans are pretty strong on islands). Also AoE2:TC takes a LOT of mechanics. A few seconds mistake in the opening could easily cost you the game. My advice is to get your build order down FIRM and COLD. Huns are the "short cut" though Vikings, Japan and Persians are quite formidable on islands as well. If you do pick Vikings, DON'T BUILD LONGBOATS. I forgot what was the specifics but if I recalled, the math done on it was that that longboats wasn't very efficient compared to just mass galleys.

Phayze

Canada2029 Posts

July 01 2010 04:10 GMT

#39

Woo for bumping 6 and a half year old thread. Great job guys. Can we get thick locked? Please?

User was warned for this post

Hidden_MotiveS

Canada2562 Posts

July 01 2010 23:48 GMT

#40

Oh you're up against korean turtle boats... crap... those are the strongest naval units in the game and viking longboats suck against their armor. You'll lose if you don't watch some reps.