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exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
November 11 2004 11:56 GMT
#1
I know this already sounds like it's a crappy thread, but it's for a good cause. My friends next door in my dorm say that if I can beat them in Age of Empires II, they'll drop it forever and play starcraft. Everytime they see me and my roommates playing Starcraft they start bitching in their broken English how it's so "boring", and shit. So I'm thinking, with my leet rts skills, I should be able to pick it up quickly, becuase I see many players and they just queue endlessly.

Any _real_ resources where I can learn tricks or anyone that has past experience with the game? For example, I don't want tips from some site that gives you like "fastest strats", and stuff like that, I want to learn right from the outset that "this" unit combination is correct. No time for bad habits, I said I would be able to learn it in half a week, so yeah.

Thoughts on this gay game are appreciated.
too easy
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 11 2004 11:58 GMT
#2
yea w/e aoe 2 is a great game. wrong forum also.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Eye-Lose
Profile Joined November 2004
United States71 Posts
November 11 2004 12:01 GMT
#3
Sounds like you put your foot where your mouth is.

there should be a foot in mouth smiley
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DV8
Profile Joined December 2002
United States1623 Posts
November 11 2004 13:42 GMT
#4
If, its AoE and not conquerers go Britons and own them with LongBowMen. The game revolves around great macro and healthy mix of units or spaming all around units. A sidenote Is I haven't played the game in several years so I don't know how much the game has evolved since I've played.
DevAzTaYtA
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Oman2005 Posts
November 11 2004 13:52 GMT
#5
if you're decently good at bw, you'll probably be able to beat them with inferior strats just because you'd know proper unit/building placement and micro/macro. this assuming they are just your avg. aoe player
half a week is kind of steep though ^^
Daysleeper
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden282 Posts
November 11 2004 15:38 GMT
#6
www.mrfixitonline.com

From the little I have seen the game is mostly about macro and map controll.
nullmind
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
1303 Posts
November 11 2004 19:48 GMT
#7
Why try to get them to play brood war. It's their loss =). It's a privilege to play such a good game.
amoeba
Profile Joined October 2004
United States283 Posts
November 11 2004 22:33 GMT
#8
AOE is a bit unbalanced.

certain civs are much better.

There used to be unbalanced strats such as Pick teutons and then townhall rush as soon as you reach castle age.
1024MB
Profile Joined May 2004
United States1455 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-11 23:27:28
November 11 2004 23:27 GMT
#9
AOE2 was my first PC game. I say Starcraft is infinate better. ^^
You learn from losing.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
November 12 2004 09:21 GMT
#10
Tower rush for victory with Britons and you cant lose.
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[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
June 27 2005 13:45 GMT
#11
I'm also curious about AOE series since it is suppose to be the 'other big RTS'. If anyone that plays it at a high level, is there any high level strategy that AOE has that isn't in BW? I watch 1 vod match of Age of Mythology (AOM) from WCG and I thought it was boring. 99% base management and 1-2 short attacks and it was over. There as almost no action in that VOD. AOE3 is coming out soon and it's looks quite nice.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2041 Posts
June 27 2005 15:23 GMT
#12
This post is old, did you win in the end? :p.
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
June 27 2005 22:34 GMT
#13
I used to rush when I played vs friends on lan. Something like building one or two militia to try to pick off workers and then finish it with quick castle units.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
Regentropfen
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany277 Posts
June 27 2005 22:43 GMT
#14
On November 11 2004 20:56 exalted wrote:
[...] becuase I see many players and they just queue endlessly. [...]


if i remember correctly, u have to pay for a unit as soon as the buidling starts to create it (unlike in bw, where u pay as soon as u give the order to build), so endless queueing in aoe is just some sort of "planning" while its a sign of sucky macro in bw....
War is not about whos right, its about whos left
Ceril
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden1343 Posts
June 27 2005 22:46 GMT
#15
...The Average AoE Joe will probably spend to much time gathering a huge army... Harass them and they wont know what color the shit that hit the fan was.
Just because you can now store where everyone was and is, what they like, what they fear who they talk to and who they love. It does not mean we should so spy upon our fellow man in a dystopia far worse then 1984
ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
June 28 2005 00:33 GMT
#16
hum

i remember watching AoE at the austrian WCG finals (never played it tho)

it looked so boring, and when one of the 2 players left, i didnt even know why :D
k3fka
Profile Joined November 2004
Argentina1267 Posts
June 28 2005 00:34 GMT
#17
if its conquerors , the best ones are Turks (powder power is fearsome) , Japanese (Samurais cost nothing and they own everything including turks , Britos with long bowmans , Teutons with all the good techs(paladins , champions , teuton knights).

There are several counters , if you know your friends are heavy cavarlry users , you should pick heavy pikemen civs like aztecs and gots , if they use an archery civ , you should use gots (huscarles rape all archers),

In my opinion the best civ you should pick if you dont know how to play , is Teutons since they have all the good techs and you can swich according to the situation. Also if you are playing islands or heavy water maps, use powder civs + vikings.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
June 28 2005 02:33 GMT
#18
Mongols are good if you micro their special unit. Same with brits.

If you like going castle fast tech pick Franks
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amoeba
Profile Joined October 2004
United States283 Posts
June 28 2005 04:44 GMT
#19
AOE is a game of hard counters.

there are 3 basic unit types :

melee infantry, cavalry, and range.

there is a subset of these 3 unit types :

spearmen, light cavalry, skirmishers.

The counter system goes : range (archers) > heavy melee (swordsmen)> light melee (spearmen)> cavalry > skirmishers> archers.

the problem is while skirmishers are supposed to counter archers, certain advanced units like briton longbowmen have such long range that skirmishers don't really counter.

Also, like somebody else said, there are huge imbalances like quick tech to castle age then offensive townhall with teutons due to their free murder hole upgrade and double townhall arrow range.



Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-28 05:31:10
June 28 2005 05:26 GMT
#20
Just pick the koreans, they are the most imbalanced civilization, mass catapults and stuff, basically if you can mass those warcraft-ballesta stuff with any race, and catapults, you are almost invincible, kinda play like sc, make urban centers or whatever theyre called as soon as you get to castle age near resources, it allows you to defend with civilians, in a 200 population game, at least half of your food will be ocupied by civilians, there should be 2 reps included in the game, when you want to load a game youll see them, dunno if its only for the gold edition though, ask any guy that knows a bit about aoe, and youll see why korean civilizations are banned from every game :p. A friend knows a aoe strategy forum, if i find it ill post it.
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