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DLJ
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany44 Posts
July 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#4341
On July 23 2012 06:34 Gorsameth wrote:
Thinking about Splinter Cell conviction. Is it worth getting?


Nope not really. Its a pretty mediocre action-game with very little stealth aspect. Better save the money for a better game.
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 21:38:46
July 22 2012 21:37 GMT
#4342
Splinter Cell Conviction is not like early splinter cell games. It's more action oriented, while the first one, pandora tomorrow and chaos theory are hardcore stealth. So if you're looking for a action/stealth game, go for conviction, if you're looking for a real stealth game, go for Chaos theory or even the thief series.


Edit: Also anyone who likes dungeon crawlers should get legend of grimrock.
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
July 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#4343
On July 23 2012 05:59 Makenshi wrote:
Oh.. legend of grimrock 60%... ugh.. should i? i kinda feel like i have to



It's great if you like dungeon crawlers. Plenty of puzzles, character building and not-easy combat.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
July 22 2012 21:44 GMT
#4344
On July 23 2012 06:37 dmnum wrote:
Splinter Cell Conviction is not like early splinter cell games. It's more action oriented, while the first one, pandora tomorrow and chaos theory are hardcore stealth. So if you're looking for a action/stealth game, go for conviction, if you're looking for a real stealth game, go for Chaos theory or even the thief series.


Edit: Also anyone who likes dungeon crawlers should get legend of grimrock.

Whats keeping me from buying it is the DRM issues you keep reading about in reviews. Is the DRM such a mess in steam too?
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
July 22 2012 21:49 GMT
#4345
On July 23 2012 06:44 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 06:37 dmnum wrote:
Splinter Cell Conviction is not like early splinter cell games. It's more action oriented, while the first one, pandora tomorrow and chaos theory are hardcore stealth. So if you're looking for a action/stealth game, go for conviction, if you're looking for a real stealth game, go for Chaos theory or even the thief series.


Edit: Also anyone who likes dungeon crawlers should get legend of grimrock.

Whats keeping me from buying it is the DRM issues you keep reading about in reviews. Is the DRM such a mess in steam too?


That "always online" requirement has been removed after release since everybody reacted very negatively to it.

By the way, I thought the game in general was a very good action game. Good presentation, pretty nice combat, and you feel like a badass if you do things right. Just don't expect it to be like older Splinter Cell games (at all).
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
SCPhineas
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 22:32:11
July 22 2012 21:55 GMT
#4346
I've really enjoyed my hours with Recettear so far, if you want a simple JRPG with quite a twist to it (you run an itemshop and you're dungeoncrawling for phat lewts to sell).
I haven't played enough of it to say anything about the longevity, but I'd recommend it if you want to check out something a little different. It's currently 50% off and now for the price of 7,49.
One "drawback" is that it's truly made for play with a controller. I haven't even really tried to play with keyboard, so I don't know what it's like, but the fact that even the mainmenu doesn't take mouseinput should give you an indication..
But I do realise this game is not for everyone, and it's always wise to do a bit of research before making purchases
Edit: I believe the game also has a demo, I'm not sure how far in that demo goes.
Edit 2: About the longevity:
On July 23 2012 07:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
There is no longevity to the game. You do the exact same thing over and over again until you get bored and stop playing. If you want to grind there are plenty of free to play grindfests out there to waste your life on.

LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 22 2012 21:58 GMT
#4347
On July 23 2012 06:34 Makenshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 06:16 r.Evo wrote:
On July 23 2012 06:10 Shraft wrote:
Does anyone know a cool co-op game on sale? If someone could recommend game with a good storyline or some hard "challenge mode" to beat would be much appreciated.


I'm repeating myself but still: "AI War: Fleet Command" & expansions. Storyline is non-existant but it's still the best AI in any game available today. It's scary and also designed for coop. If you think you might like a kind of 4x game with an AI that will remind you of the evil rogue AI in some good sci-fi books, go for it.


Edit: SPAZ is a good pickup for 2 bucks I'd say. It's not really omgomg must-have-super-awesome (my current in-dev fav for this genre is Starfarer) but still very much worth that price. Great to burn a few hours here and there.

For potential German customers; - I'm not sure what it's like nowadays but I can only install my Bioshock version in German, not in English - which annoys the crap out of me. =(


hey r.evo, i'm thinking about getting ai war now after what you've said, thinking of buying it for myself and a friend. hows the gameplay? do you build bases, research? similiar to any other game maybe? trying to get as much as info i can about it so i know if i should get it!



ai war has a free demo with a tutorial.
its not easy to explain in a post.
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
July 22 2012 22:05 GMT
#4348
On July 23 2012 06:58 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 06:34 Makenshi wrote:
On July 23 2012 06:16 r.Evo wrote:
On July 23 2012 06:10 Shraft wrote:
Does anyone know a cool co-op game on sale? If someone could recommend game with a good storyline or some hard "challenge mode" to beat would be much appreciated.


I'm repeating myself but still: "AI War: Fleet Command" & expansions. Storyline is non-existant but it's still the best AI in any game available today. It's scary and also designed for coop. If you think you might like a kind of 4x game with an AI that will remind you of the evil rogue AI in some good sci-fi books, go for it.


Edit: SPAZ is a good pickup for 2 bucks I'd say. It's not really omgomg must-have-super-awesome (my current in-dev fav for this genre is Starfarer) but still very much worth that price. Great to burn a few hours here and there.

For potential German customers; - I'm not sure what it's like nowadays but I can only install my Bioshock version in German, not in English - which annoys the crap out of me. =(


hey r.evo, i'm thinking about getting ai war now after what you've said, thinking of buying it for myself and a friend. hows the gameplay? do you build bases, research? similiar to any other game maybe? trying to get as much as info i can about it so i know if i should get it!



ai war has a free demo with a tutorial.
its not easy to explain in a post.

Challenge accepted.

I don't think I can draw parallels to other games since I don't play that many in the genre. Maybe Homeworld or Sins of the Solar Empire? I highly recommend the game so maybe I can sell it to you with some description.

The AI has control over the entire galaxy. You choose a starting planet and begin building your base there. As you scout out nearby planets, you decide where you want to expand your empire. You then attack and take over those systems from the AI in order to get more economy, production, technology, etc. The catch is that the AI gets stronger and more aggressive the higher your threat level, which increases over time as well as when you destroy certain AI structures. You try to strategically expand until you can assault the AI homeworlds.

The game really shines in multiplayer. Every game is obviously more fun with friends but this one has a bunch of nice features. You can host a single-player saved game and a friend can join and play with you. Also, the game is only co-op against the AI so you aren't fighting against eachother. The only downside is that you share a threat level so if your strategies differ you may be arguing with your friends.

Makenshi
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden2105 Posts
July 22 2012 22:09 GMT
#4349
Thanks Durak, ended up being sold after watching some youtube and read forums, talked a friend into it and buying a copy for a third friend, seems to be a game that alot of time will disappear to !

i have a hunch some of you are steam employers trying to steal my money :p
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
July 22 2012 22:13 GMT
#4350
On July 23 2012 06:55 SCPhineas wrote:
I've really enjoyed my hours with Recettear so far, if you want a simple JRPG with quite a twist to it (you run an itemshop and you're dungeoncrawling for phat lewts to sell).
I haven't played enough of it to say anything about the longevity, but I'd recommend it if you want to check out something a little different. It's currently 50% off and now for the price of 7,49.
One "drawback" is that it's truly made for play with a controller. I haven't even really tried to play with keyboard, so I don't know what it's like, but the fact that even the mainmenu doesn't take mouseinput should give you an indication..
But I do realise this game is not for everyone, and it's always wise to do a bit of research before making purchases
Edit: I believe the game also has a demo, I'm not sure how far in that demo goes.


There is no longevity to the game. You do the exact same thing over and over again until you get bored and stop playing. If you want to grind there are plenty of free to play grindfests out there to waste your life on.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 22 2012 22:14 GMT
#4351
wow the stardock bundle is such a scam, you buy trinity and rebellion with it, but rebellion has everything that trinity has.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
July 22 2012 22:15 GMT
#4352
On July 23 2012 07:09 Makenshi wrote:
Thanks Durak, ended up being sold after watching some youtube and read forums, talked a friend into it and buying a copy for a third friend, seems to be a game that alot of time will disappear to !

i have a hunch some of you are steam employers trying to steal my money :p


No it's just that the RT4X genre should get boosted for the amount of nice games that are in it. It's usually long hours for each game so the trigger happy folks won't like it, but they miss out on great games like GalCiv and Sins of a Solar Empire.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8180 Posts
July 22 2012 22:16 GMT
#4353
On July 23 2012 06:37 dmnum wrote:
Splinter Cell Conviction is not like early splinter cell games. It's more action oriented, while the first one, pandora tomorrow and chaos theory are hardcore stealth. So if you're looking for a action/stealth game, go for conviction, if you're looking for a real stealth game, go for Chaos theory or even the thief series.


Edit: Also anyone who likes dungeon crawlers should get legend of grimrock.


except even as an action game it sorta sucks. the whole mark/execute system just means you don't even have to aim most of the time.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 22:24:11
July 22 2012 22:23 GMT
#4354
My friend got me Spliter Cell Convinction and it was okay, but I never really felt it was that amazing. We played through the coop too, but the things that people have already whined about didn't change, sooo... yeah.
SCPhineas
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands119 Posts
July 22 2012 22:30 GMT
#4355
On July 23 2012 07:13 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
There is no longevity to the game. You do the exact same thing over and over again until you get bored and stop playing. If you want to grind there are plenty of free to play grindfests out there to waste your life on.

Ah, not that unexpected though. For me personally, it was still worth it (wasn't expecting it to be a huge timesink). Thanks for the heads up anyway (and for those who would be interested)!
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
July 22 2012 22:31 GMT
#4356
i personally enjoyed conviction, but it definitely isn't as good as chaos theory. the style of game did change some, from stealth to a more action/stealth genre, but i think it still works. my only real complaint with the game is the mark/execute system, which makes some parts of the game too easy. however you do not have to use this feature when you play through (i personally just ignored it). i also liked the coop. nothing amazing but i thought it was a solid game, worth checking out for $5.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
phlebas
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany60 Posts
July 22 2012 22:34 GMT
#4357
Sweet, Just Cause 2 won the communitys choice and will be on sale in 30 minutes.
"i once thought i was watching a pvp but it turns out it was two geckos mating" - riptide
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-22 22:47:22
July 22 2012 22:46 GMT
#4358
On July 23 2012 07:05 Durak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2012 06:58 LaNague wrote:
On July 23 2012 06:34 Makenshi wrote:
On July 23 2012 06:16 r.Evo wrote:
On July 23 2012 06:10 Shraft wrote:
Does anyone know a cool co-op game on sale? If someone could recommend game with a good storyline or some hard "challenge mode" to beat would be much appreciated.


I'm repeating myself but still: "AI War: Fleet Command" & expansions. Storyline is non-existant but it's still the best AI in any game available today. It's scary and also designed for coop. If you think you might like a kind of 4x game with an AI that will remind you of the evil rogue AI in some good sci-fi books, go for it.


Edit: SPAZ is a good pickup for 2 bucks I'd say. It's not really omgomg must-have-super-awesome (my current in-dev fav for this genre is Starfarer) but still very much worth that price. Great to burn a few hours here and there.

For potential German customers; - I'm not sure what it's like nowadays but I can only install my Bioshock version in German, not in English - which annoys the crap out of me. =(


hey r.evo, i'm thinking about getting ai war now after what you've said, thinking of buying it for myself and a friend. hows the gameplay? do you build bases, research? similiar to any other game maybe? trying to get as much as info i can about it so i know if i should get it!



ai war has a free demo with a tutorial.
its not easy to explain in a post.

Challenge accepted.

I don't think I can draw parallels to other games since I don't play that many in the genre. Maybe Homeworld or Sins of the Solar Empire? I highly recommend the game so maybe I can sell it to you with some description.

The AI has control over the entire galaxy. You choose a starting planet and begin building your base there. As you scout out nearby planets, you decide where you want to expand your empire. You then attack and take over those systems from the AI in order to get more economy, production, technology, etc. The catch is that the AI gets stronger and more aggressive the higher your threat level, which increases over time as well as when you destroy certain AI structures. You try to strategically expand until you can assault the AI homeworlds.

The game really shines in multiplayer. Every game is obviously more fun with friends but this one has a bunch of nice features. You can host a single-player saved game and a friend can join and play with you. Also, the game is only co-op against the AI so you aren't fighting against eachother. The only downside is that you share a threat level so if your strategies differ you may be arguing with your friends.




You've got me intrigued now. Is it worthwhile to pick up all the DLC or will the base game suffice?

should read nested quotes before posting ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 22 2012 22:54 GMT
#4359
the DLC is good, but you will want to play the game without them first because they add like 200 ship types and 10-20 factions that can spawn...its too complicated.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 22 2012 22:58 GMT
#4360
Buy
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