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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 20 2012 09:10 GMT
#3881
On July 20 2012 14:05 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 12:28 iNvArey wrote:
I caved and now own total war lol hope its fun


you wont be disappointed. Outside of Starcraft, there isnt a single series that every comes close to the amount of time ive put in total war.

My opinion is Medieval 2: total war is the best (especially crusades expansion, but im hot for that stuff)

edit. Rome is pretty fucking good too, but i found it to easy because your units are so good.


http://www.moddb.com/mods/darthmod-shogun-2

No other link needed to make Shogun 2 truely epic, vanilla has lots of random annoying flaws that all get wiped out with this mod.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 20 2012 09:22 GMT
#3882
the last remnant is really good, unfortunately the game gets bashed based on its metacritic score (the user score is over 8, why does that count for nothing?) and the fact that it is an jrpg, which makes people scream "final fantasy clone!".
The PC version is also vastly improved compared to the console. They even changed the gameplay, not just ported the engine over.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
July 20 2012 09:33 GMT
#3883
Metacritic is pretty bad really. It's more like a convenient nuisance.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 20 2012 09:39 GMT
#3884
On July 20 2012 15:54 Enki wrote:
Mass Effect wasn't that great at all. The story was ok I guess but it had pretty boring combat and the RPG elements in it are fairly basic. Not alot of room for customization at all. Also, all the sidequests basically use the exact same two maps or something so they are literally always the same.

I'm actually playing through Mass Effect 2 as I type this..I'm a good ways in now and I find it much better than the first. The story seems to be more interesting and there seems to be alot to see and do. The battle system is largly the same. It's a 3rd person shooter with bare-bones RPG elements. The environments are more diverse but so far I have just been going down corridors, with some occasional branches. Reminds me of FFXII which isn't a good thing. I do like all the dialogue manipulating though.

ME1 is ok I think if you just rush through it, ignoring all the cookie-cutter sidequests. ME2 seems significantly better in alot of areas, I find it to be pretty good.

You really found ME2's story to be superior to ME1's? o.O

I mean...that's totally on you, but I think you're literally the first person I've ever seen say that, lol.

Personally, I preferred the greater amount of customization options in ME1. If they'd had a less retarded inventory interface and the polish in the shooter mechanics of the later ME games, it would have been so much more fun. I also thought ME1 had the best talent system of the three.

In any case, all three are fantastic games, in my opinion, and are probably my favorite games of all time.
Hello
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
July 20 2012 09:49 GMT
#3885
On July 20 2012 18:39 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 15:54 Enki wrote:
Mass Effect wasn't that great at all. The story was ok I guess but it had pretty boring combat and the RPG elements in it are fairly basic. Not alot of room for customization at all. Also, all the sidequests basically use the exact same two maps or something so they are literally always the same.

I'm actually playing through Mass Effect 2 as I type this..I'm a good ways in now and I find it much better than the first. The story seems to be more interesting and there seems to be alot to see and do. The battle system is largly the same. It's a 3rd person shooter with bare-bones RPG elements. The environments are more diverse but so far I have just been going down corridors, with some occasional branches. Reminds me of FFXII which isn't a good thing. I do like all the dialogue manipulating though.

ME1 is ok I think if you just rush through it, ignoring all the cookie-cutter sidequests. ME2 seems significantly better in alot of areas, I find it to be pretty good.

You really found ME2's story to be superior to ME1's? o.O

I mean...that's totally on you, but I think you're literally the first person I've ever seen say that, lol.

Personally, I preferred the greater amount of customization options in ME1. If they'd had a less retarded inventory interface and the polish in the shooter mechanics of the later ME games, it would have been so much more fun. I also thought ME1 had the best talent system of the three.

In any case, all three are fantastic games, in my opinion, and are probably my favorite games of all time.


The original Mass Effect was my favourite because it created the illusion that your choices actually mattered. When in *Mass Effect SPOILERS*
+ Show Spoiler +
Wrex/Ashley/Kaiden/Council dies
the game actually had me thinking... 'shit...this is actually going to matter across all three games? That's so awesome!'
Then you play 2 and 3 and realise your choices actually meant nothing when everything was conveniently replaced.

In fact I completely agree with your whole post, (except the last part :d!).

Mass Effect 3 I thought was actually a lot better than 2. Bioware did a good job for the most part making it seem like everything was on the line. I've never actually bothered finishing it because of the horrible ending. Mass Effect 2 felt like a glorified fetch quest.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 09:57:55
July 20 2012 09:56 GMT
#3886
I also think that Mass Effect 1 is the worst Mass Effect story-wise and definitely the worst gameplay-wise. The "main" story was generic and cheesy before Cerberus and Reapers fully stepped into the spotlight in 2/3 (there really wasn't much of a story in ME1 to begin with). Characters were very crude in Mass Effect 1, they were mostly just stereotypes (or renegades) of their respective races without a lot of individual personality at all.

Compare Garrus in ME1 to ME2 and ME3. Garrus in ME1 was basically some random gung-ho sniper guy who doesn't give a shit about the rules, and that was basically the extent of his character development. He's really just a depiction of a renegade(ish) Turian with zero personality. Compared to say ME2/3 where he actually grows as a character. Same is true for most other characters that evolved a lot in the sequels, as did the overall maturity of the story.
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 10:10:34
July 20 2012 10:07 GMT
#3887
On July 20 2012 18:39 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 15:54 Enki wrote:
Mass Effect wasn't that great at all. The story was ok I guess but it had pretty boring combat and the RPG elements in it are fairly basic. Not alot of room for customization at all. Also, all the sidequests basically use the exact same two maps or something so they are literally always the same.

I'm actually playing through Mass Effect 2 as I type this..I'm a good ways in now and I find it much better than the first. The story seems to be more interesting and there seems to be alot to see and do. The battle system is largly the same. It's a 3rd person shooter with bare-bones RPG elements. The environments are more diverse but so far I have just been going down corridors, with some occasional branches. Reminds me of FFXII which isn't a good thing. I do like all the dialogue manipulating though.

ME1 is ok I think if you just rush through it, ignoring all the cookie-cutter sidequests. ME2 seems significantly better in alot of areas, I find it to be pretty good.

You really found ME2's story to be superior to ME1's? o.O

I mean...that's totally on you, but I think you're literally the first person I've ever seen say that, lol.

Personally, I preferred the greater amount of customization options in ME1. If they'd had a less retarded inventory interface and the polish in the shooter mechanics of the later ME games, it would have been so much more fun. I also thought ME1 had the best talent system of the three.

In any case, all three are fantastic games, in my opinion, and are probably my favorite games of all time.

Me too, but mostly because unfortunately i played ME2 and then ME1(and didnt finish it tbh, but was up to 2/3). So ME2 was my first contact to ME series and i found faster pacing and atmoshpere better. Maybe its completely untrue and based solely on the fact i played ME2 first.

ME2 was actually the first Single Player game i enjoyed since years(though i didnt play much SP games in last years), i didnt whine about it being too much of FPS or not having enough RPG elements. I kinda swallowed it all in 2 days and didn't regret it at all. Then like 2-3 years after i finally bought ME1 and first i acknowledged it being bigger and more customizable. But all those traits became a nuisance later, i didnt get the joy of doing additional optional quests around, driving the buggy was fun at the beginning and finding secrets was fun but after 4-5 planets it became nuisance just like mining the ores- mini game from ME2. I still have this "completionist" syndrome since Baldurs gate era and optional quests while more developed were still just optional quests and more boring than main story. ME2 felt more compacted and i can enjoy less spread out games with less options but better action.

The second thing that made me like ME2 more was that it felt more dark sci-fi than first one. There was less places to run around, but dialogues, cities, illusive man AND more interesting/ not black and white companions gave me that slight cyberpunkish feeling i love.

I didnt play ME3 yet and i dont know the ending everyone bitch around. How is ME3 gameplay/storytelling in comparison to ME2? I dont care about ending but the early/middle game.
Stork[gm]
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
July 20 2012 11:07 GMT
#3888
On July 20 2012 19:07 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2012 18:39 PH wrote:
On July 20 2012 15:54 Enki wrote:
Mass Effect wasn't that great at all. The story was ok I guess but it had pretty boring combat and the RPG elements in it are fairly basic. Not alot of room for customization at all. Also, all the sidequests basically use the exact same two maps or something so they are literally always the same.

I'm actually playing through Mass Effect 2 as I type this..I'm a good ways in now and I find it much better than the first. The story seems to be more interesting and there seems to be alot to see and do. The battle system is largly the same. It's a 3rd person shooter with bare-bones RPG elements. The environments are more diverse but so far I have just been going down corridors, with some occasional branches. Reminds me of FFXII which isn't a good thing. I do like all the dialogue manipulating though.

ME1 is ok I think if you just rush through it, ignoring all the cookie-cutter sidequests. ME2 seems significantly better in alot of areas, I find it to be pretty good.

You really found ME2's story to be superior to ME1's? o.O

I mean...that's totally on you, but I think you're literally the first person I've ever seen say that, lol.

Personally, I preferred the greater amount of customization options in ME1. If they'd had a less retarded inventory interface and the polish in the shooter mechanics of the later ME games, it would have been so much more fun. I also thought ME1 had the best talent system of the three.

In any case, all three are fantastic games, in my opinion, and are probably my favorite games of all time.

Me too, but mostly because unfortunately i played ME2 and then ME1(and didnt finish it tbh, but was up to 2/3). So ME2 was my first contact to ME series and i found faster pacing and atmoshpere better. Maybe its completely untrue and based solely on the fact i played ME2 first.

ME2 was actually the first Single Player game i enjoyed since years(though i didnt play much SP games in last years), i didnt whine about it being too much of FPS or not having enough RPG elements. I kinda swallowed it all in 2 days and didn't regret it at all. Then like 2-3 years after i finally bought ME1 and first i acknowledged it being bigger and more customizable. But all those traits became a nuisance later, i didnt get the joy of doing additional optional quests around, driving the buggy was fun at the beginning and finding secrets was fun but after 4-5 planets it became nuisance just like mining the ores- mini game from ME2. I still have this "completionist" syndrome since Baldurs gate era and optional quests while more developed were still just optional quests and more boring than main story. ME2 felt more compacted and i can enjoy less spread out games with less options but better action.

The second thing that made me like ME2 more was that it felt more dark sci-fi than first one. There was less places to run around, but dialogues, cities, illusive man AND more interesting/ not black and white companions gave me that slight cyberpunkish feeling i love.

I didnt play ME3 yet and i dont know the ending everyone bitch around. How is ME3 gameplay/storytelling in comparison to ME2? I dont care about ending but the early/middle game.


Gameplay
- The combat mechanics are essentially the same as ME2 except it's a bit more fluid. For example you can roll between covers or vault over them if the height is right. I've only played a soldier across the series and, in terms of abilities, it's basically the same class in 2 and 3.
- You have access to a heavy melee attack *WOAH*.
- You can now mod guns for accuracy, damage, armor penetration, clip capacity.
- Level advancement is practically the same in ME2 and 3.
- It's still pretty much a corridor shooter.
- You complete missions for what are essentially war credits. The amount of war credits you have determines the ending you get.
- Ashley is now hot. The new character is completely forgettable. ED returns as a squadmate (this is pretty stupidly done)
- Not so subtly done gay relationships are possible with some characters
- Varied primary planets
- Similar sidequests to ME2 with generic fetch quests as well
- 3 different factions you fight against the entire game....there's not much variety.

Storytelling
I really enjoyed the storytelling of ME3, (which seems to be the opposite of a few people in this thread ).
Shepard basically travels to planets of significance to the other races - either their capital or a primary strategic location. Going to these planets made me feel significant in the grand scheme of things - genuinely attempting to put an army together by forging relations with key areas. Squadmates will die in the game if you've made certain choices earlier in the series. Many choices in the previous games are rarely of any consequence since substitutions are made if characters died prior to ME3. There are stupid characters *looks at Kai Leng* but also some poignant moments in the writing.

If you enjoyed ME2, I don't really see any reason to pass on ME3.
You also get a multiplayer mode which is actually pretty fun, (though not amazing by any means).
schaf
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1326 Posts
July 20 2012 11:12 GMT
#3889
On July 20 2012 17:31 DongLongJohnson wrote:
I got both Portal Games for free from Valve and played ~2 Levels of Portal1 and not even installed Portal2.


INFIDEL!
Axiom wins more than it loses. Most viewers don't. - <3 TB
NewbieOne
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Poland560 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-20 11:48:40
July 20 2012 11:16 GMT
#3890
Guys, I wanted to let you know that Fallout 3 Game of the Year Edition is available for entire five euros all. As long as you have the time to play, just go get it. Might be one of the best buys you've ever made. The way Fallout is made, it's also a perfect language resource for a lot of things for a non-native speaker of English. I'm a professional translator and always have a fond recollection of old Fallouts, and a smile, when I translate stuff for power plants. And yes, language absorption, by analogy to learning from the TV, is a convenient excuse for playing games instead of working. Besides, in Fallout 3, apart from having a rail gun, you can use shish kebab as a weapon. How much cooler (or hotter) can it get?

On July 20 2012 19:07 bgx wrote:
I didnt play ME3 yet and i dont know the ending everyone bitch around. How is ME3 gameplay/storytelling in comparison to ME2? I dont care about ending but the early/middle game.


Better, I think, at least in terms of design, solution, whatever. There were some things about ME2 I missed in ME3 but can't pinpoint them really (I delayed starting ME3 to go through ME2 again when I found out about Arrival and wanted Lair). You need to see on your own and ME3 is definitely worth getting unless you're very hard pressed for your free time. As for the endings, they've supposedly released by now the free DLC expanding the cinematics etc., as well as actually tweaking something about the choices after all.

You may not know this but you can actually buy and play Arrival and Lair with the Polish version from CD Projekt, if you have one. And I mean legally, not hacking it. If you get Origin (EA's equivalent of the Steam platform), you can enter the CD-key from the boxed version and convert it to a digital one. At that point they give you a number of choice of language versions. I've confirmed with EA support that it's legal to choose something else than you actually have in the box, so you can indeed pick the English version (switchable from Hungarian or some such, at any rate a Central European and not UK version) even if you have the Polish one. You will need to repurchase DLC's, I believe. I had to, myself.

ME3 is also not a bad multiplayer shooter if you're after something simple and familiar. Basically recreational. Thoroughly recreational, simplified etc., way scaled down from a proper FPS. Kinda like arcade vs simulation in car racing.

Since somebody mentioned characters, you don't get many, nor do you really get that much interaction with them. But what you do get can sometimes be memorable, especially if you're a Garrus fan. Ashley has indeed become more of a hottie but also more competent. A bit of a change of character. I might actually like the new one more, you can't really call her a bimbo by any means. Loved talking to Liara. Tali wasn't badly done but could've been better. Hope I'm not spoiling too much but you'd expect them to be in the game anyway. Jack is interesting. Anderson is a great guy. Hackett isn't bad. Well, can't really complain *THAT* much about the characters, I guess. You could probably only tell the budget was perhaps limited (which has been a stable feature in the gaming industry for like what? 10 years?) and wish for more interaction but well, that's it.

Note that you will need to complete some multiplayer in order to unlock the best endings, otherwise you won't have enough Effective Military Strength (War Assets are one thing, War Readiness is at 50% unless you bump it via multiplayer but you don't have to play that much of it and, besides, it's kinda cool and you can rely on taxi* much of the time).

* Taxi means hanging out with huys higher level than you and benefitting from it. The game goes from level 1 to 20 and doesn't discriminate when matching teams automatically. For the record, there's only co-op vs AI, no human vs human.

Also, I know you didn't ask about visuals but visuals are amazing. The vistas at the Citadel in particular.

Overall atmosphere is a nice wind-up to the series, you can feel the conclusion coming, you feel the war effort start and intensify and then reach towards err... conclusion (with people literally lying on mattresses on hospital floor as you discuss missing supplies with the doctors, or when you as a high-ranking officer are still forced to man a machine gun stand and max the frags). There are also some (or many) memorable moments (you can get on the roof of the citadel buildings, spar and win a fist-fight in dress uniform on the lower deck, talk with Liara about her childhood from the perspective of a devoted friend ant not necessarily a love interest, you can actually make Batarians trust you despite the events of Arrival... many such things, these are just examples). I actually had tears in my eyes a couple of such times.
qeMix
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany71 Posts
July 20 2012 11:36 GMT
#3891
On July 20 2012 17:31 DongLongJohnson wrote:
I got both Portal Games for free from Valve and played ~2 Levels of Portal1 and not even installed Portal2.

BLASPHEMY!
...
witcher 1 is on sale for 2€ woot (witcher 2 is shit compared to first one ... should've released it as a crappy DLC ^).
and why is arma2 still 20€ T_T ... pls steam go down to 15
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1935 Posts
July 20 2012 11:41 GMT
#3892
Playing through Recettear now thanks to the sale... game is amazing. If you at all like jrpgs you ought to pick it up when it goes back on sale.

Does fallout NV have the same mouse lag issues fallout 3 had?
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
July 20 2012 12:11 GMT
#3893
On July 20 2012 16:32 MrKn4rz wrote:
Does anyone know if Demigod is any good or to what other games it could be compared with?


It was fun to play when it was released, but poorly supported by the devs and I doubt it has a notable active community left... (could be wrong tho)
Kevmeister @ Dota2
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
July 20 2012 13:55 GMT
#3894
On July 20 2012 20:41 Trumpet wrote:
Playing through Recettear now thanks to the sale... game is amazing. If you at all like jrpgs you ought to pick it up when it goes back on sale.

Does fallout NV have the same mouse lag issues fallout 3 had?


Been a long ass time for me but I don't think so.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Nich
Profile Joined April 2010
397 Posts
July 20 2012 14:00 GMT
#3895
How fun is arma2? i know the popularity of day z, but how about arma itself? or is it just like what happen to wc3 where ppl just buy the game to play dota?
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
July 20 2012 14:18 GMT
#3896
i have a weird question.

anyone know some games where i am part of an army or similar?
for example: Freespace 2, the neverwinternights battle, mount and blade...


i modded my skyrim to have such battles and it was a ton of fun, there must be some games around it? Must be singleplayer, though, because i want to be THE HERO.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
July 20 2012 15:03 GMT
#3897
On July 20 2012 20:41 Trumpet wrote:
Playing through Recettear now thanks to the sale... game is amazing. If you at all like jrpgs you ought to pick it up when it goes back on sale.

Does fallout NV have the same mouse lag issues fallout 3 had?


Recettear is absolutely adorable and enjoyable. I spent soooo much time playing that game~ I recommend it to anybody who even looks at it. Yes. If you look at it, you must buy it.

Of course, Fortune Summoners is pretty fun (I've only played it a little bit, but it's good). I've been told it's probably the most difficult platformer due to ridiculous AI, though. Chantelise is a little generic, but it's not bad.
Elegance
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada917 Posts
July 20 2012 15:06 GMT
#3898
GG more recycled games on flash deals
Power of Ze
Dunmer
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom568 Posts
July 20 2012 15:13 GMT
#3899
I could have sworn Crusaders 2 said 110% off, I laughed because the price was negative £3.75 or something like that. Anyway I refreshed and it was fixed. Wonder if anyone else had that?
All Ireland Starcraft, check us out on Facebook
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11723 Posts
July 20 2012 15:14 GMT
#3900
Why did you refresh, instead of instantly buying and getting 3.75 + a game? FOOL!
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