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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
Me hopes so :D | ||
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Gridlock
United Kingdom517 Posts
Just to explain to non UK residents. There are only 5 channels that any tv in the UK can recieve: BBC1, BBC2, ITV, Channel 5, Channel 5. You can get these with no freeview box or subscriptions (eg Sky), Infact you can jam a metal coat hangar into old TV's as an aerial and get them. Not only is the BBC F1 coverage immaculate, but because it takes over one of our 'original' tv channels all day it just feels special (Note to Brits: remember when we only had the 5 channels and everyone used to watch Blind date and then Gladiators on the weekend lawl!). I'm gutted, I have SkyHD but don't subscribe to the sports channels, and I won't be for this. An extra £20 per month to watch (more than likely) ad riddled coverage? I was really getting in to F1 this season too  probably due to the good job the BEEB has been doing.Money > All | ||
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Stenstyren
Sweden619 Posts
This will harm F1 greatly since so many people all over the world watch it via BBC. Their coverage is simply the best and I can't understand Bernie Ecclestone's reasoning in the matter. Short term, this will make F1 some more money but in the long term this will hurt the popularity and availability of the sport. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2010 Posts
On July 29 2011 22:16 Gridlock wrote: The F1 coverage on the BBC always feels so special. Just to explain to non UK residents. There are only 5 channels that any tv in the UK can recieve: BBC1, BBC2, ITV, Channel 5, Channel 5. You can get these with no freeview box or subscriptions (eg Sky), Infact you can jam a metal coat hangar into old TV's as an aerial and get them. Not only is the BBC F1 coverage immaculate, but because it takes over one of our 'original' tv channels all day it just feels special (Note to Brits: remember when we only had the 5 channels and everyone used to watch Blind date and then Gladiators on the weekend lawl!). I'm gutted, I have SkyHD but don't subscribe to the sports channels, and I won't be for this. An extra £20 per month to watch (more than likely) ad riddled coverage? I was really getting in to F1 this season too probably due to the good job the BEEB has been doing.Money > All There will be no ads during the race. That is confirmed. Team principals were meeting Bernie during FP2 today, I await the outcome of that. As for the race this weekend, it is looking good for McLaren. While the low fuel runs cant really be used as a decent gauge of pace until FP3 (fuel loads and sandbagging) the high fuel race pace runs are. In Germany McLaren were 2 or 3 tenths off the pace of Red Bull and Ferrari whereas today they seem to be the pacesetters by a tenth or two. Red Bull seem even slower though, whats happened? Have they been trying new parts today that are not working or what? Tomorrow should be very interesting. | ||
Noam
Israel2209 Posts
If it is any indication, in Israel the races were on the free sports channel on cable for many years, they were getting a lot of attention and people were always talking about it in the forums. Then a few years ago they moved it to a specialized sports channel which doesn't come with the basic cable package and I can barely find anyone that watches it anymore besides the die-hard fans. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2010 Posts
On July 29 2011 22:52 Noam wrote: That is really major news about the BBC. Has there been any word regarding the "World Feed" that is essentially the BBC nowadays ? If it is any indication, in Israel the races were on the free sports channel on cable for many years, they were getting a lot of attention and people were always talking about it in the forums. Then a few years ago they moved it to a specialized sports channel which doesn't come with the basic cable package and I can barely find anyone that watches it anymore besides the die-hard fans. Not entirely sure what you mean here. The "world feed" is made by and distributed by FOM, and they use the commentary team from 5live (BBC radio) which will still cover every practice, quali and race session the same as always. Edit: I mean they use the commentary 5live team for the trackside portable tv service. I forget the name of it. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
They've got a fantastic deal for the license payer; all the build up, qualifying etc... Half the races including Monaco + Silverstone and full highlights on Sunday night. We mustn't let our dislike of Sky get in the way of the reality that money has to be saved. edit: a good point many are making though is that maybe the BBC should be allowed to charge extra for some service. F1 has lots of viewers that don't care about sky but would want F1. BBC could charge an extra £100 a year or something, that's a hell of a lot less than the £600 Sky want. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2010 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:15 Klive5ive wrote: I think any criticism aimed at the BBC is harsh. They've got a fantastic deal for the license payer; all the build up, qualifying etc... Half the races including Monaco + Silverstone and full highlights on Sunday night. We mustn't let our dislike of Sky get in the way of the reality that money has to be saved. edit: a good point many are making though is that maybe the BBC should be allowed to charge extra for some service. F1 has lots of viewers that don't care about sky but would want F1. BBC could charge an extra £100 a year or something, that's a hell of a lot less than the £600 Sky want. IF... they show the full race as "highlights" and save £30m (which Bernie says is up to the BBC) then I am fine with that. I would just avoid the result and sky (even though I have sky I know the coverage will be shit). It doesnt change the fact that not all sports will suffer from the cuts. Notably Wimbledon as I said previously. Why didnt they just give sky the womens side of that  Viewing figures as I said are the second highest of any sport in F1, I just cant see how they justify this decision. | ||
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thebigdonkey
United States354 Posts
On July 29 2011 20:25 Bairemuth wrote: So this doesn't affect US viewers does it? Still sounds terrible either way. Sure it does. I watch the BBC feed whenever I can. Speed/Fox's coverage is an atrocity. The commentators are only slightly above worthless at best. Not to mention the commercial breaks every 3 minutes. Considering I only subscribe to the sports package that Speed comes in for F1 coverage, I would gladly pay 20 bucks a month just for a BBC F1 subscription. It's just so many levels above any other broadcast I've seen. | ||
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TranceStorm
1616 Posts
But, in happier news, Jenson Button will race his 200th race this weekend! An extraordinary achievement for a driver who has only really come into the spotlight in recent years. | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
Also happy for Masa beating Alonso in quali... should be a good race!! | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On July 31 2011 08:34 baldgye wrote: gutted about Lewis making the error on the last corner, that pole was his!!!! though with both him and button behind vettel I'm hoping we see him crack and Lewis can take the win... Also happy for Masa beating Alonso in quali... should be a good race!! at least hamilton still has a brand new set of super softs which the others dont have. | ||
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Noam
Israel2209 Posts
On July 30 2011 01:52 Aristodemus wrote: Not entirely sure what you mean here. The "world feed" is made by and distributed by FOM, and they use the commentary team from 5live (BBC radio) which will still cover every practice, quali and race session the same as always. Edit: I mean they use the commentary 5live team for the trackside portable tv service. I forget the name of it. Brundle keeps welcoming his "tens of millions of viewers from around the world" during qualifying and the race, I assume that means FOM is using BBC1's commentary. That qualifying session sure brought back old memories. Vettel seemingly behind the pace until the very last run where he "magically" pulls an amazing lap. Is it really just learning the tires and understanding the grip level or is he holding back to keep the rest of the pack unaware? | ||
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Chewits
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
On July 31 2011 17:22 Noam wrote: Brundle keeps welcoming his "tens of millions of viewers from around the world" during qualifying and the race, I assume that means FOM is using BBC1's commentary. That qualifying session sure brought back old memories. Vettel seemingly behind the pace until the very last run where he "magically" pulls an amazing lap. Is it really just learning the tires and understanding the grip level or is he holding back to keep the rest of the pack unaware? No way. Vettel was absolutely going for it. You could see that on the onboard camera. This whole thing off "holding back" doesn't make sense. of course for your final run all the drivers absolutely go for it, so the last run is usually going to be the quickest. | ||
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Aristodemus
England2010 Posts
On July 31 2011 17:22 Noam wrote: Brundle keeps welcoming his "tens of millions of viewers from around the world" during qualifying and the race, I assume that means FOM is using BBC1's commentary. That qualifying session sure brought back old memories. Vettel seemingly behind the pace until the very last run where he "magically" pulls an amazing lap. Is it really just learning the tires and understanding the grip level or is he holding back to keep the rest of the pack unaware? Thats just directed at the people who get BBC, such as Australia. FOM just provide pictures, and use 5live at the trackside. As for quali, they both made mistakes and went 4 tenths slower than their first run in the last sector. They were both very good in the first two though. Red Bull always save some speed for Q3, its not a trait of Vettel but of the team. Edit: Wet race yay | ||
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baldgye
United Kingdom1103 Posts
On July 31 2011 08:43 Zaros wrote: at least hamilton still has a brand new set of super softs which the others dont have. idd... though is he on the dirty side of the track??? Either way I think that Hammy's best chance to win a race is today... he only has 1 person to fight.. ...Lewis for 2011 DWC!!! | ||
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Insight.9
United Kingdom79 Posts
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EliteReplay
Dominican Republic913 Posts
for all vetel lovers that guy just know how to drive from the pole, doesnt have the character to maintain a good driver behind him. | ||
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Sazchu
Iceland489 Posts
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GTR
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