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ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 18:10:30
October 18 2011 18:09 GMT
#581
Yeah, the only reason you'd want a +15 is if you can enchant it somehow. That's why I got a +15 Scythe on my cleric. Bare minimum stats but enchanting with Sunlight Blade or Darkmoon blade added like 400+ damage to it making it hit for around 730.

I'd be interested to see how the scaling changes in the patch. I wish they'd add a poison weapon upgrade, at the moment it feels like you either go elemental, +15 or chaos. Raw and Crystal are worthless at the moment and the difference between Magic/Enchanted and Divine/Occult is negligible when maxed out.
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
October 18 2011 18:15 GMT
#582
On October 19 2011 03:06 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 03:03 Adeny wrote:
Question: What exactly does "failed to invade" mean? I'm in the darkwraith covenant trying to use the red eye orb. I've gotten a couple of invasions but 9/10 times it fails to invade. Is this network issues or simply a lack of people to invade? If so where and at what level would I be likely to get a lot of invasions going?


Network issues could be a reason.
Another scenario: You invade me. I see you invading me (white fog appears, I can't leave the area, I can't use the bonfire), but you're still trying to connect (no message that you already invaded). I quit game. You failed to invade.

Edit: I misread a bit. The top only applies to "Invading" -> "Invading Failed".
Regarding your real question, yes. If there isn't anyone close to your level that qualifies as a target around the area you're trying to invade, it will show as invasion failed. Also keep in mind that Dark Souls uses this stupid P2P system, and most of the time, its the network. Again, they're supposedly going to fix/improve this by 1.04.


To clarify, it goes from searching for world to invade -> invasion failed. Supposedly the item times out (why the fuck?), so; where would be a good place/level to invade? Is there some sort of gentlemans dueling club where people gather after having beat NG+? Higher level duels, for the (i assume) higher variation of builds is preferable.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 18:24:57
October 18 2011 18:24 GMT
#583
On October 19 2011 03:15 Adeny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 03:06 Fishball wrote:
On October 19 2011 03:03 Adeny wrote:
Question: What exactly does "failed to invade" mean? I'm in the darkwraith covenant trying to use the red eye orb. I've gotten a couple of invasions but 9/10 times it fails to invade. Is this network issues or simply a lack of people to invade? If so where and at what level would I be likely to get a lot of invasions going?


Network issues could be a reason.
Another scenario: You invade me. I see you invading me (white fog appears, I can't leave the area, I can't use the bonfire), but you're still trying to connect (no message that you already invaded). I quit game. You failed to invade.

Edit: I misread a bit. The top only applies to "Invading" -> "Invading Failed".
Regarding your real question, yes. If there isn't anyone close to your level that qualifies as a target around the area you're trying to invade, it will show as invasion failed. Also keep in mind that Dark Souls uses this stupid P2P system, and most of the time, its the network. Again, they're supposedly going to fix/improve this by 1.04.


To clarify, it goes from searching for world to invade -> invasion failed. Supposedly the item times out (why the fuck?), so; where would be a good place/level to invade? Is there some sort of gentlemans dueling club where people gather after having beat NG+? Higher level duels, for the (i assume) higher variation of builds is preferable.


If you're level is 1X-2X. Undead Burg is fine. 3X-4X, I would think Blight Town. Pretty much self explanatory here. Just invade the areas accordingly to your level. You can invade a lot at Anor Londo if you're around 50 or higher, etc.

I don't know about a Gentlemen's Dueling Club for NA/EU, but there sure is one in Japan.

On October 16 2011 15:32 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 15:12 DannyJ wrote:
I wish dexterity wasnt practically a 100% useless stat for any PvP build. The lack of many dex weapons as well is kind of odd.


Hmm? Piercing swords, Uchigatana, Iaito are all good choices.
Just take a look at the weapon list.
http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Weapons

In the Japanese PvP video posted on page 23, you can see his stats. Soul Level 97, he has 20 Strength and 22 Dexterity, 40 Vitality and 40 Endurance. Neither "damage" stats are considered high. What matters most is the weapon you use, based on its speed, damage, upgrades you want to pursue, and the set of moves the weapon utilizes.


@9:55, owwwww



Some more videos on the sidebar.

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Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 18 2011 18:33 GMT
#584
On October 19 2011 03:09 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Yeah, the only reason you'd want a +15 is if you can enchant it somehow. That's why I got a +15 Scythe on my cleric. Bare minimum stats but enchanting with Sunlight Blade or Darkmoon blade added like 400+ damage to it making it hit for around 730.

I'd be interested to see how the scaling changes in the patch. I wish they'd add a poison weapon upgrade, at the moment it feels like you either go elemental, +15 or chaos. Raw and Crystal are worthless at the moment and the difference between Magic/Enchanted and Divine/Occult is negligible when maxed out.


I'm at least somewhat satisfied to know that if my 99 Intelligence mage were to wield a +5 Enchanted Estoc, it will only be around 5 damage lower than a +5 Lightning Estoc
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Saishuuheiki
Profile Joined November 2010
United States188 Posts
October 18 2011 18:41 GMT
#585
Personally my great sword of Artorias is getting close to damage to that of +5 lightning, and it should be able to go way past it (C/C/B/B stat ratings I think)

And even though you say it's only 5 lower than a lightning estoc, I believe it's easier to get lightning defence than magic. Plus you can do something like the homing missle + sword swing combo for more effectiveness.


I do wonder if pumping strength up really does increase attack speed. I read it somewhere and I know that if the great swords could swing faster, they'd be awesome.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 18 2011 18:54 GMT
#586
On October 19 2011 03:41 Saishuuheiki wrote:
Personally my great sword of Artorias is getting close to damage to that of +5 lightning, and it should be able to go way past it (C/C/B/B stat ratings I think)

And even though you say it's only 5 lower than a lightning estoc, I believe it's easier to get lightning defence than magic. Plus you can do something like the homing missle + sword swing combo for more effectiveness.


I do wonder if pumping strength up really does increase attack speed. I read it somewhere and I know that if the great swords could swing faster, they'd be awesome.


Just play with the calculators. You can find out everything regarding the damage you'll get.

Yes I know magic defense is harder to get, I'm just being a bit cynical and mocking the current state of elemental weapons.

I'm also pretty damn sure Strength does not increase attack speed. This is the first time I've heard of such rumors.
靈魂交響曲
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
October 18 2011 19:04 GMT
#587
Finally decided it's time to upgrade my armours on my katana chick.

Was going to upgrade the Painting Guard armours until I realised they used twinkling shards, so for now I decided to use the Dingy set. Got everything to +5 at the moment, gonna go invading for some more souls.

Priscilla's dagger has got some sweet moves 2h. I wonder when I should use it instead of the uchi. I guess I will try it vs lightning resist guys but I'd have to got used to the range, although it does have some nice thrust moves.
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 18 2011 19:08 GMT
#588
On October 19 2011 04:04 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Finally decided it's time to upgrade my armours on my katana chick.

Was going to upgrade the Painting Guard armours until I realised they used twinkling shards, so for now I decided to use the Dingy set. Got everything to +5 at the moment, gonna go invading for some more souls.

Priscilla's dagger has got some sweet moves 2h. I wonder when I should use it instead of the uchi. I guess I will try it vs lightning resist guys but I'd have to got used to the range, although it does have some nice thrust moves.


Hey OjKa, any idea what this armor set is called and where do you get it? I'm having a hard time googling this.

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dormer
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:24:39
October 18 2011 19:23 GMT
#589
On October 19 2011 04:08 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 04:04 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Finally decided it's time to upgrade my armours on my katana chick.

Was going to upgrade the Painting Guard armours until I realised they used twinkling shards, so for now I decided to use the Dingy set. Got everything to +5 at the moment, gonna go invading for some more souls.

Priscilla's dagger has got some sweet moves 2h. I wonder when I should use it instead of the uchi. I guess I will try it vs lightning resist guys but I'd have to got used to the range, although it does have some nice thrust moves.


Hey OjKa, any idea what this armor set is called and where do you get it? I'm having a hard time googling this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYHdi8hDCM


According to the Japanese wiki, it's in the painted world where Priscilla is, on a body near where you jump off, after you kill the NPC phantom. Never seen it myself, though, so not sure.
Artosis: "You need to hold my hand." Tasteless: "I'm very good at that."
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 18 2011 19:31 GMT
#590
On October 19 2011 04:23 dormer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 04:08 Fishball wrote:
On October 19 2011 04:04 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Finally decided it's time to upgrade my armours on my katana chick.

Was going to upgrade the Painting Guard armours until I realised they used twinkling shards, so for now I decided to use the Dingy set. Got everything to +5 at the moment, gonna go invading for some more souls.

Priscilla's dagger has got some sweet moves 2h. I wonder when I should use it instead of the uchi. I guess I will try it vs lightning resist guys but I'd have to got used to the range, although it does have some nice thrust moves.


Hey OjKa, any idea what this armor set is called and where do you get it? I'm having a hard time googling this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYYHdi8hDCM


According to the Japanese wiki, it's in the painted world where Priscilla is, on a body near where you jump off, after you kill the NPC phantom. Never seen it myself, though, so not sure.


Interesting, thanks. That might explain it since I've yet to enter the painted world. OjKa come shed some light since you love this painted world so much.
靈魂交響曲
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 20:25:44
October 18 2011 20:16 GMT
#591
Well it can be quite a pain in the ass, especially they higher up you go. Those fucked up zombies that shoot fire explode toxic when die so be careful about that.

The route I do is, from the bonfire, run up, kill the 3 zombies and then take the stairs. They'll be 4 zombies up here, you can kill them or run further up. Then you'll see two fucked up zombies guys, you can kill or run to that long thin walkway.
It looks like a big drop but you should survive easily if you haven't been hurt. Now you can relax. Have a look around and you can open those doors which were just ahead of the bonfire.
You also have to go down one of the wells in the corners of that middle place. Be careful because of the annoying pinwheel dudes are there. Keep exploring the sewers, hit hidden walls and then do the action thing so you can progress to the boss.
There's a key in one of the hidden rooms in the sewers which goes to the Annex door which is in the middle bit and in a building to the right. That way has some good loot like Dark Cleric set, Occult ember, a magic that I forget but be careful, some real hurtful mobs up here.

You can pretty much scout this whole middle area and find the zombie dragon. If you're melee then you can kill him by...well you can figure it out.

There's also the Painted Guard set in this place and if you want to cut some time, when you kill the zombie dragon, his behind will block the bridge. If you do a jumping attack on it then his behind will stand up some you can jump down and continue to Priscilla


ahhh just spent 52k on Large shards, turns out after that upgrade I need chunks :[[[[[[[
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 18 2011 20:29 GMT
#592
Backstabbing the explosive zombies or just killing them from range makes it pretty easy. The only really gay monsters I found were those raven things. The regular attacks are quite manageable but when I went, a single grab killed me from 100%.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
October 18 2011 20:31 GMT
#593
On October 19 2011 05:16 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
Well it can be quite a pain in the ass, especially they higher up you go. Those fucked up zombies that shoot fire explode toxic when die so be careful about that.

The route I do is, from the bonfire, run up, kill the 3 zombies and then take the stairs. They'll be 4 zombies up here, you can kill them or run further up. Then you'll see two fucked up zombies guys, you can kill or run to that long thin walkway.
It looks like a big drop but you should survive easily if you haven't been hurt. Now you can relax. Have a look around and you can open those doors which were just ahead of the bonfire.
You also have to go down one of the wells in the corners of that middle place. Be careful because of the annoying pinwheel dudes are there. Keep exploring the sewers, hit hidden walls and then do the action thing so you can progress to the boss.
There's a key in one of the hidden rooms in the sewers which goes to the Annex door which is in the middle bit and in a building to the right. That way has some good loot like Dark Cleric set, Occult ember, a magic that I forget but be careful, some real hurtful mobs up here.

You can pretty much scout this whole middle area and find the zombie dragon. If you're melee then you can kill him by...well you can figure it out.

There's also the Painted Guard set in this place and if you want to cut some time, when you kill the zombie dragon, his behind will block the bridge. If you do a jumping attack on it then his behind will stand up some you can jump down and continue to Priscilla


ahhh just spent 52k on Large shards, turns out after that upgrade I need chunks :[[[[[[[


So, erm, where do you exactly get the armor in question ? I think you missed the most important part lol.
靈魂交響曲
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
October 18 2011 20:34 GMT
#594
The painted set? Instead of falling off the ledge just keep running. You'll end up in these multi story buildings with white rats. Uhhhm...pretty much follow your nose and if you can drop down to a square piece of level then do that and carry on. More rats and it's in a chest somewhere around
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
October 18 2011 20:35 GMT
#595
Is there an NG++? NG+++? Where does the madness end?
matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 21:00:19
October 18 2011 20:38 GMT
#596
I must be the worst Dark Souls player ever. I had not one, not two but THREE gold pine resins and still managed to fuck up the Bell Gargoyle boss battle. I had to resort to my golden warrior by summoning him after I unhollow and both gargoyles had a sliver of a life each and how did I manage to fuck this up? By rolling off the roof. FUCK MY LIFE!!!!!!

Edit: I killed the fat holy pastor guy in Firelink Shrine, took his two humanities, summoned Soltaire, and killed them ezpz.
Without a paddle up shit creek.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 20:41:20
October 18 2011 20:40 GMT
#597
On October 19 2011 05:34 ToT)OjKa( wrote:
The painted set? Instead of falling off the ledge just keep running. You'll end up in these multi story buildings with white rats. Uhhhm...pretty much follow your nose and if you can drop down to a square piece of level then do that and carry on. More rats and it's in a chest somewhere around


There are a few sets that are in the painted world. This is the set I'm looking for; The one in the video. I think I solved it.

http://darksouls.wikidot.com/xanthous-king-jeremiah
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CutthroatCollapse
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 21:49:59
October 18 2011 21:46 GMT
#598
hi guys, noob question incoming. I still hope you will answer it.

Im only just in the second area of the game, or rather the first after the "tutorial". I pissed off this one npc (not the discouraged knight, the second dude you meet) and now he wants to kill me and he seems way too strong. should I just run away? because when I respawn he is still pissed off lol. Thanks, and excuse my noobdom
I tink, MC so sterong
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
October 18 2011 22:08 GMT
#599
Are you talking about the guy perching at Firelink Shrine? You could just run each time or you could take him on by practising your parry skills
OjKa OjKa OjKa!
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
October 18 2011 22:20 GMT
#600
On October 19 2011 06:46 CutthroatCollapse wrote:
hi guys, noob question incoming. I still hope you will answer it.

Im only just in the second area of the game, or rather the first after the "tutorial". I pissed off this one npc (not the discouraged knight, the second dude you meet) and now he wants to kill me and he seems way too strong. should I just run away? because when I respawn he is still pissed off lol. Thanks, and excuse my noobdom


The fat cleric Petrus?

He sells mostly basic level miracles, so if you want those, restart.

You can just avoid him for a long time until you feel strong enough to beat him


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