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On January 07 2011 18:40 undyinglight wrote:
Avatar of Woe is my all time favorite card.
The power level goes up year by year, it is really starting to feel quite noticeable in the game that the rate of which cards are increasing in power (on average) from set to set, is really getting out of hand. A casual deck from 1995 could hold fair against a casual deck from 2000. A casual deck from 2005 would likely be demolished by a casual deck from 2010. I am getting out of the normal game for the most part, I want to get into Elder Dragon Highlander, but very very few people in my are play standard Magic: The Gathering.
Well, sort of. Creatures have gotten a hell of a lot better and the power level of the average card is much higher (far less terrible cards) but there are also fewer truly broken cards out there. Every so often you still get a broken card slip in (Skullclamp anyone) but there are far less. Affinity was stupid strong but the last really broken decks in Standard (IMHO anyway) were during the Urza's block. I.e. decks with a good chance to win in turn 1-3.
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On January 07 2011 19:53 undyinglight wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 19:09 Fir3fly wrote:
Im thinking about getting into Magic: The Gathering.
sadly I grew up in a christain home so it was kinda frowned upon, so i couldnt get into it when i heard about it ages ago.
is it still worth getting into?
(also, if anyone's willing to sell their old decks, pm me, i might be interested :> ) Not all Christians oppose Magic: The Gathering, I know many who play it, I am one of them.
yeah i know. i never saw the bad in it and i was a bit of a "full-on" Christain when i was little. (as much as a kid could be)
but yeah, im not saying all Christians are against Magic, or that its anti-Christian.
thats just how my mother saw it (and everything else  )
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Ahhhhh old times, I remember being really competitive, placing top 8 in a few PTQ, back when Extended started in Tempest, that was an amazing format  I loved my Rock with Vampiric tutors, Pernicious Deeds and of course, Spirit Mongers x3
I left the competitiveness of the game, stopped buing for some time, and when I came back to look over shoulders I saw people gaining life as a good strategy, I decided the game was not for me anymore. Even if I could still beat most people around here, and there are really good players in my area (a couple of them were sitting in the top 4 of Spanish DCI rating for a long time) I have been playing from time to time with borrowed decks, so I know a bit of the most recent metagames, with Fairies and such stuff, the game is not for me anymore, it feels just diferent.
Besides, I found myself another amazing game years ago that called my university student (and not a 16 years old nerd anymore) mind. It's called Legend of the 5 rings, much more complex game to master, and there is beer in the tournament, nuff said!
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I haven't played since 2004 or 2005 but back then I actually didn't think Magic was expensive to play at all. To play standard the biggest investment for me was getting my first good deck put together when I started playing competitively. I remember using Thieving Magpies in place of Shadowmage Infiltrators for a while and stuff like that. Once I got competitive though it pretty much paid for itself with tournament winnings. I've thought about getting into it again a few times but I saw the new planeswalker bullshit and lost any interest.
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Oh, where have gone the days of raging goblins and knights of dawn and dusk? ;(
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On January 07 2011 20:09 Fir3fly wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 19:53 undyinglight wrote:On January 07 2011 19:09 Fir3fly wrote:
Im thinking about getting into Magic: The Gathering.
sadly I grew up in a christain home so it was kinda frowned upon, so i couldnt get into it when i heard about it ages ago.
is it still worth getting into?
(also, if anyone's willing to sell their old decks, pm me, i might be interested :> ) Not all Christians oppose Magic: The Gathering, I know many who play it, I am one of them. yeah i know. i never saw the bad in it and i was a bit of a "full-on" Christain when i was little. (as much as a kid could be) but yeah, im not saying all Christians are against Magic, or that its anti-Christian. thats just how my mother saw it (and everything else )
lol this still goes on? Way back in 95 I remember adults saying it was some kind of devil worshipping game and my cousins and aunt were shocked to find magic cards in my backpack one day.
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I don't really care for the new sets. I started during Tempest and Urza's block but I have been playing off and on. Recently I have been playing type 2 in local tournies and stuff, mostly just for fun though, but unless your deck splashes blue and you have a playset of 80 dollar Jace the Mind Sculptors, you cannot seriously compete. I don't really like the addition of planeswalkers at all.
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On January 07 2011 22:13 Ataraxia wrote:
I don't really care for the new sets. I started during Tempest and Urza's block but I have been playing off and on. Recently I have been playing type 2 in local tournies and stuff, mostly just for fun though, but unless your deck splashes blue and you have a playset of 80 dollar Jace the Mind Sculptors, you cannot seriously compete. I don't really like the addition of planeswalkers at all.
+1
I never understood why or how people miss-interpreted Magic as anti-christian. If it looks sketchy it's anti-christian? I had problems @ school with this lol. The "cards are getting more powerfull every expansion" issue it's one of the reasons (besides time) im not returning into the game. It's turning into a WoW game.
Would you place Jesus as a Black or White Card?
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I haven't played Magic in a really long time. I had a hell of a lot of fun playing Invasion/Odyssey at my local card shop on friday nights, quit after Invasion phased out. I tried coming back for Onslaught/Mirrodin, but quit after a couple weeks because it wasn't nearly as fun as Invasion/Odyssey was.
It seems like it would be really hard to get into now with the new super duper rare cards, or whatever they're called. The reason i preferred Magic over Yu-Gi-Oh was because of the much lower cost of deckbuilding.
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On January 07 2011 21:45 Manit0u wrote:
Oh, where have gone the days of raging goblins and knights of dawn and dusk? ;(
Gosh did this post just make me nostalgic.
I remember my cadeverous bloom/drain life deck now. Such good times!
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I play legacy, as such, no need to keep spending money to maintain my deck =D
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I personally love the ever-evolving metagame of T2/extended. I don't spend money on the game aside from drafting and occasional entry fees not covered by store credit thanks to being a part of a strong cardpool. If you put enough effort into, and are good at, trading, you can update your pool as a new set comes out without losing money.
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I remember being one of the first people in the south to break Mophling. Those were the days... Mishra's Helix Covetous Dragon Hellfire deck was pretty stupid awesome too. Urza's Saga > Legends. Like much better.
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On January 07 2011 23:10 misaTO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 22:13 Ataraxia wrote:
I don't really care for the new sets. I started during Tempest and Urza's block but I have been playing off and on. Recently I have been playing type 2 in local tournies and stuff, mostly just for fun though, but unless your deck splashes blue and you have a playset of 80 dollar Jace the Mind Sculptors, you cannot seriously compete. I don't really like the addition of planeswalkers at all. +1 I never understood why or how people miss-interpreted Magic as anti-christian. If it looks sketchy it's anti-christian? I had problems @ school with this lol. The "cards are getting more powerfull every expansion" issue it's one of the reasons (besides time) im not returning into the game. It's turning into a WoW game. Would you place Jesus as a Black or White Card?
Modern color wheel would place Jesus in White or White/green, definitely not Black.
(also, christians frown upon MtG for the same reason that they frown on Harry Potter or DnD, it's not that the product is anti-christian, it's just that christians believe that magic = evil, period. "You cast MAGIC spells ? Jesus Christ, that's blasphemous !"
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Some of the old cards are pretty fucking op now though (horsemanship anyone?). though nowadays i feel the game has headed in a kind of boring direction as opposed to the intial abilities and type of cards back in the day.
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On January 07 2011 23:18 Gann1 wrote:
It seems like it would be really hard to get into now with the new super duper rare cards, or whatever they're called. The reason i preferred Magic over Yu-Gi-Oh was because of the much lower cost of deckbuilding.
i dont like mythics, but they havent really increased the cost of deckbuilding by much. because of smaller sets and people breaking more packs, the majority of good rares are VERY cheap compared to what they were before mythics. good examples are things like dual lands, summoning trap and pyromancers ascension are around $1.5 dollars which wouldve never happened in pre-mythic days.
so as long as you stay away from the mythics(which you wouldve done in the past if you were "budget"), budget deckbuilding is cheaper, whereas normal deckmaking has stayed about the same or increased only alittle bit.
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Why'd they up counter spell by one mana?
Wasn't there a card with Banding/DoubleStrike?
subversion seems ok if left alone
On January 07 2011 23:51 Acid~ wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2011 23:10 misaTO wrote:On January 07 2011 22:13 Ataraxia wrote:
I don't really care for the new sets. I started during Tempest and Urza's block but I have been playing off and on. Recently I have been playing type 2 in local tournies and stuff, mostly just for fun though, but unless your deck splashes blue and you have a playset of 80 dollar Jace the Mind Sculptors, you cannot seriously compete. I don't really like the addition of planeswalkers at all. +1 I never understood why or how people miss-interpreted Magic as anti-christian. If it looks sketchy it's anti-christian? I had problems @ school with this lol. The "cards are getting more powerfull every expansion" issue it's one of the reasons (besides time) im not returning into the game. It's turning into a WoW game. Would you place Jesus as a Black or White Card? Modern color wheel would place Jesus in White or White/green, definitely not Black. (also, christians frown upon MtG for the same reason that they frown on Harry Potter or DnD, it's not that the product is anti-christian, it's just that christians believe that magic = evil, period. "You cast MAGIC spells ? Jesus Christ, that's blasphemous !"
The guy who opened up the river with his staff was pretty evil...in the exodus...
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I played from Masques to around Onslaught. Invasion block sealed/draft/type 2 was so awesome, but my favorite was type 1.5. My brother and I had a pretty sweet collection before we sold it all 3-4 years ago.
best decks;
Turbo Land (INFINITE TURNS TROLOLOL)
Wildfire (and to a lesser extent Tinker)
Slivers (I had 3 Queens dawg, I was too cool)
and a red/white deck of my own creation that abused skullclamp to drop massive firestorms, before the clamp was banned in everything. Shard Phoenix and Kjeldoran Outpost are my all time favorite cards
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i gave up entirely when they reprinted lightening bolt.
that is, i gave up buying new cards. I still play people with my Tog deck, and it still does well. The new sets are just too gimmickry for my liking.
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I made a lot of money selling/trading/buying cards when I was into this. Ended up selling a handful of the power 9 cards for over 2k.
I played a lot of Type 1 tournaments and won some decent prizes. Placed at regionals for type 2 twice and then dropped out of the competitive scene due to college.
It was a lot of fun when I played, but the new cards don't have near the appeal they used to.
I almost always played control decks of some type.
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