EPTedit : Counterspell now costs 3 mana while imbaduress costs 1 black mana.
Does anyone remember cabal therapy+duress?
Old Magic the Gathering cards vs New ones
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misaTO
Argentina204 Posts
edit : Counterspell now costs 3 mana while imbaduress costs 1 black mana. Does anyone remember cabal therapy+duress? | ||
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Mortality
United States4790 Posts
I could seriously nerd rage about how my deck that used to be worth close to 500 dollars is probably worth pennies by now. Cards that used to be a good 10 bucks a decade ago are trash now. | ||
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3772
Czech Republic434 Posts
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misaTO
Argentina204 Posts
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misaTO
Argentina204 Posts
On January 07 2011 06:37 3772 wrote: All sets with the new design (Mirodin and newer) are kinda boring, except Zendikar which was pretty good (for draft at least, not interested in constructed that much, as I don't want to spend 300+$ on Jaces and other stuff). I loved construct. Turning shitty cards into a stomp deck was awesome. I remember playing 20 Islands 2 Citadels of Pain 3 Thwart 3 Counterspell 3 Mana Leak 4 Acumulated Knowledge 4 Cloud Fairies 4 Mercadian Fairy 2 Can't remember but every time it dealt damage i could search X card in the opponent's deck & remove that card from the game (i know IMBA) Djins Loxodon Warhammers I just can't remember exactly but it was a monocromatic blue flying counter shitstorm. Roflstomping "serious" decks with fairies was insane. | ||
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Moody
United States750 Posts
On January 07 2011 06:35 Mortality wrote: MTG... I could seriously nerd rage about how my deck that used to be worth close to 500 dollars is probably worth pennies by now. Cards that used to be a good 10 bucks a decade ago are trash now. You have no idea what nerd rage is until you've played magic competitively. Every time a new set is released, you have to spend about 300 bucks on new cards (assuming you already have a play-set of your mana base and all uncommons), which will retain their value for at MOST 2 years. "Oh, a new mythic rare that is good!" Bam! 200-400 for a playset. This is the reason I quit playing magic. I don't enjoy kitchen table magic, and can't justify spending 2-3 grand a year on cards. | ||
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LazyMacro
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I haven't played or drafted in a while, so I don't know what cards are good and such, but shit. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
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Wesso
Netherlands1245 Posts
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Szgk
Poland112 Posts
Plus you don't need to play with plainswalkers. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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FishFuzz99
United States152 Posts
Most EDH cards tend to be old stuff anyway. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 07 2011 06:27 misaTO wrote: edit : Counterspell now costs 3 mana while imbaduress costs 1 black mana. Does anyone remember cabal therapy+duress? Sure, you can nitpick on Cancel, or you can realize that because Mana Leak is in every format, it's completely irrelevant anyway, so the fact that it's strictly worse than Counterspell doesn't matter. And I recall a competitive player describing Duress as "training wheels" for Cabal Therapy--by mid-game 1/game 2, a good player should be able to blind Therapy for priority targets, without the need to spend deck slots on Duress. On January 07 2011 08:12 Judicator wrote: So you hate the new cards but like Mercadia and Urza....right...that makes total sense. Seriously. Urza's Saga and Mercadian Masques were comparatively poor sets. Urza's just had enough degenerate broken mechanics that it completely wrecked Type I as a format, and the power level of Mercadian Masques was by contrast comparatively low and many of the card designs were very uninspired. Compounding the problem was how Masques block constructed was completely dominated by the overly self-synergistic Rebel mechanic. If you're going to reminisce about old metagames, at least reminisce about good ones--Urza/Masques was one of the worst times to be playing competitive Magic (the only other contenders IMO being Onslaught/Mirrodin before the bans, or Mirrodin/Kamigawa). | ||
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Offhand
United States1869 Posts
On January 07 2011 06:27 misaTO wrote: Am I the only one who would love to see Urza's or Mercadia re-edited? I know collectors would totally rage @ this but the metagame was much more fun back then. I don't know what you're doing putting Mercadian Masques and Urza' Saga in the same sentence in terms of power cards. Urza's Saga as a block was the most powerful thing they did until Mirroden. Masques was universally garbage because Wizards was afraid to make any good cards following Urza's. I'm guessing those two sets were just when you played. You also missed the retro set. Time Spiral brought back a ton of old cards. It was also the best block in limited... like ever. I haven't actually played competitively since Lorwyn/Shadowmoore sets so I don't know if Scars really is terrible. Heard really good things about Alara and Eldrazi but never played it at a tournament level. | ||
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
 Also, according to wikipedia, "The original mulligan allowed a player a single redraw of seven new cards if that player's initial hand contained seven or zero lands" I thought that was still the rule. | ||
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
Also, lul at turn 0 hulk flash hahahahahahhahaha Theres something about a deck that wins on turn 0 that is just funny | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
It's true that some of the new cards in the new sets can be a bit unfun but there were cards like that in every set. | ||
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misaTO
Argentina204 Posts
![[image loading]](http://magiccards.info/scans/en/pr/56.jpg) On January 07 2011 08:32 TheYango wrote: Sure, you can nitpick on Cancel, or you can realize that because Mana Leak is in every format, it's completely irrelevant anyway, so the fact that it's strictly worse than Counterspell doesn't matter. And I recall a competitive player describing Duress as "training wheels" for Cabal Therapy--by mid-game 1/game 2, a good player should be able to blind Therapy for priority targets, without the need to spend deck slots on Duress. Seriously. Urza's Saga and Mercadian Masques were comparatively poor sets. Urza's just had enough degenerate broken mechanics that it completely wrecked Type I as a format, and the power level of Mercadian Masques was by contrast comparatively low and many of the card designs were very uninspired. Compounding the problem was how Masques block constructed was completely dominated by the overly self-synergistic Rebel mechanic. If you're going to reminisce about old metagames, at least reminisce about good ones--Urza/Masques was one of the worst times to be playing competitive Magic (the only other contenders IMO being Onslaught/Mirrodin before the bans, or Mirrodin/Kamigawa). In response, counterspell (?) As You mentioned Lin Siivi retarded combo, i must ask if you remember the rising waters thingy. That was soooooooo anoying.. On January 07 2011 08:46 Offhand wrote: I don't know what you're doing putting Mercadian Masques and Urza' Saga in the same sentence in terms of power cards. Urza's Saga as a block was the most powerful thing they did until Mirroden. Masques was universally garbage because Wizards was afraid to make any good cards following Urza's. I'm guessing those two sets were just when you played. You also missed the retro set. Time Spiral brought back a ton of old cards. It was also the best block in limited... like ever. I haven't actually played competitively since Lorwyn/Shadowmoore sets so I don't know if Scars really is terrible. Heard really good things about Alara and Eldrazi but never played it at a tournament level. You MUST HAVE SUFFERED TINKER/MANTICORE DECKS!!! I dunno why, but i have always favored a deck with a system over "combo decks" Did anyone play a Fires of yavimaya deck? Flametongue Kavus, Fires, Spiritmongers Cloaks? | ||
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