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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On August 25 2011 11:00 blade55555 wrote: why? lol Steam's EULA is like the same as origin. Your loss not mine :D Steam's EULA is completely different. Steam will only use the information avaiable through the use of Steam and it's games, Origin's EULA will scan my computer and use information outside of Origin's platform. On August 25 2011 13:18 iinsom wrote: As stated on Games.on.net. This EULA, that exact quote within it, is in BC2, WoW, Google etc. It's no different. I highly doubt EA will do anything. It's just there. You overreact wayy to much. Maybe there is, but the problem is that I trust Google and Valve and Blizzard with my information, I don't trust EA. Just because it's been done before shouldn't mean I'll let it pass this time. If indeed the BC2 EULA says the same thing, then probably I'm fucked up for a long time so it won't matter if I play BF3 or not (since they already got my info), but I will be against it happening anyways. | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On August 26 2011 03:25 Tschis wrote: ... Maybe there is, but the problem is that I trust Google and Valve and Blizzard with my information, I don't trust EA. Just because it's been done before shouldn't mean I'll let it pass this time... Rofl. On-topic: I'm frothing at the mouth for this game. Can't wait!!! | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
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Solai
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Mysti_
France185 Posts
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On August 26 2011 03:47 Mysti_ wrote: Could someone sum up the origin TOS please? + Show Spoiler + STEAM 7 USER GENERATED INFORMATION "User Generated Information" means any information made available to other users through your use of multi-user features of Steam or to Valve through your use of the Software. User Generated Information may include, but is not limited to, chat, forum posts, screen names, game selections, player performances, usage data, suggestions about Valve products or services, and error notifications. Subject to the Valve privacy policy referenced in Section 1 above, as applicable, you expressly grant Valve the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind. ORIGIN 2 Consent to Collection and Use of Data. You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION. This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at www.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control. | ||
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Bibdy
United States3481 Posts
I'm curious why one would trust Valve more on the general usage of the words "...use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind." and not EA's specific usage of the words "...does not personally identify you". Sounds like paranoia at work to me. | ||
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On August 26 2011 04:36 Tschis wrote: + Show Spoiler + STEAM 7 USER GENERATED INFORMATION "User Generated Information" means any information made available to other users through your use of multi-user features of Steam or to Valve through your use of the Software. User Generated Information may include, but is not limited to, chat, forum posts, screen names, game selections, player performances, usage data, suggestions about Valve products or services, and error notifications. Subject to the Valve privacy policy referenced in Section 1 above, as applicable, you expressly grant Valve the complete and irrevocable right to use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind. ORIGIN 2 Consent to Collection and Use of Data. You agree that EA may collect, use, store and transmit technical and related information that identifies your computer (including the Internet Protocol Address), operating system, Application usage (including but not limited to successful installation and/or removal), software, software usage and peripheral hardware, that may be gathered periodically to facilitate the provision of software updates, dynamically served content, product support and other services to you, including online services. EA may also use this information combined with personal information for marketing purposes and to improve our products and services. We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you. IF YOU DO NOT WANT EA TO COLLECT, USE, STORE, TRANSMIT OR DISPLAY THE DATA DESCRIBED IN THIS SECTION, PLEASE DO NOT INSTALL OR USE THE APPLICATION. This and all other data provided to EA and/or collected by EA in connection with your installation and use of this Application is collected, used, stored and transmitted in accordance with EA’s Privacy Policy located at www.ea.com. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control. Personally all of this is meaningless to me. What are the reprecussions to installing this software? I understand they give out personal information to other companies, but unless you wanna be off the grid, why is it soo terrible? Im genuinely unaware of any of the negatives and if you could list them that would be great. | ||
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
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HansMoleman
United States343 Posts
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RoosterSamurai
Japan2108 Posts
On August 26 2011 04:56 HansMoleman wrote: My faith in new gen video games died with this game. Then it must have been pretty fragile to begin with. The game isn't even out yet. | ||
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floor exercise
Canada5847 Posts
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Jswizzy
United States791 Posts
On August 26 2011 03:41 Bibdy wrote: I haven't done much following of BF3 development, so could someone outline the key differences between it and BFBC2? I really like BFBC2 and I'm curious what they're spending their time working on. The game doesn't feel like BFBC2 or BF2 from what I experienced from the alpha. To be honest I though the gameplay had way to much in common with MOH but games can change allot between alpha and release so I haven't canceled yet but it's looking like I won't be spending as much time on BF3 as I did with BF1942, BF2, or BFBC2. | ||
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Kojak21
Canada1104 Posts
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Broodie
Canada832 Posts
Operating System: Windows 2.6.1.7601 (Service Pack 1) CPU Type: AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1090T Processor CPU Speed: 3.23 GHz System Memory: 7.95 GB Video Card Model: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Video Card Memory: 3.97 GB Video Card Driver: nvd3dum.dll Primary Display Resolution: 1920x1080 Secondary Display Resolution: 1680x1050 Hard Disk Size: 1.82 TB Hard Disk Free Space: 1.53 TB (84%) Download Speed: 879.72 kB/s (7.2 mbps) I wanna run it on the best graphics since Ill be doing machinimas | ||
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Aduromors
United States279 Posts
On August 26 2011 03:41 Bibdy wrote: I haven't done much following of BF3 development, so could someone outline the key differences between it and BFBC2? I really like BFBC2 and I'm curious what they're spending their time working on. Much like BC2, it's another attempt at an accessible, "focused" version of battlefield, maps are large but distances between points are small, infantry are funneled into arenas between points. Spawning on squadmates is just as simplified as it was in BC2, so it's easy to join a server and spawn right into a killing field The alpha infantry gameplay felt very CoD-like. Weapons are deadlier all around, but there's still the BC2 hierarchy where shotguns (always) beat SMGs which (almost always) beat ARs at close range. One-hit-kill snipers tossing C4 are out out.There's regenerating health, but unlike BC2 the screen isn't obscured with blood and doesn't stumble drunkenly when taking damage. There's a greater emphasis on cover, as Grenades and Rockets have been completely neutered. Prone is in, but it impedes turning and basic movement like it's right out of CoD4, really nothing like BF2 - it's hard to aim when switching from prone to standing/crouching which makes it mostly useless for firing behind cover All that with the usual incomprehensibly dumb design decisions that all DICE games are known for | ||
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Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On August 26 2011 04:44 Bibdy wrote: Am I crazy or does it literally say right after that bolded part "...in a form that does not personally identify you"? I'm curious why one would trust Valve more on the general usage of the words "...use, reproduce, modify, create derivative works from, distribute, transmit, broadcast, and otherwise communicate, and publicly display and perform the User Generated Information and derivative works thereof in any form, anywhere, with or without attribution to you, and without any notice or compensation to you of any kind." and not EA's specific usage of the words "...does not personally identify you". Sounds like paranoia at work to me. Because if you read it the bolded part in Valve's EULA: it's only the information generated through the use of the platform, this means use of games and their statistics. If they want other kind of information they do it through some kind of polls. Valve has prooved me that I can trust them. They bring the best of games, they have an unbeliavable community centered "way of working". Even if their ultimate goal is to make cash, just like EA, at least with them I can have a good time and enjoy how much they help and care about the community. EA to me is all about getting more and more cash. I don't mind them trying to launch their own digital platform, but I don't like either when they just remove their games from Steam so that they can have an advantage while launching Origin. Ps.: EA has heard people's concerns and has changed their EULA: Consent to Collection and Use of Data. EA knows that you care how information about you is collected, used and shared, and we appreciate your trust that we will do so carefully and sensibly. Information about our customers is an important part of our business, and EA would never sell your personally identifiable information to anyone, nor would it ever use spyware or install spyware on users’ machines. We and agents acting 37683v1 on our behalf do not share information that personally identifies you without your consent, except in rare instances where disclosure is required by law or to enforce EA’s legal rights. | ||
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Mysti_
France185 Posts
It's not their fault if EA choosed to do what they did with Origin and as long as you know you'll have a lot of fun playing a game, that makes no sense boycotting it just because of some ethic... every company on this planet has for first goal to make cash, some are just smarter than others to do it. | ||
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iinsom
Australia339 Posts
On August 26 2011 05:03 floor exercise wrote: It seems like pretty standard disregard for your personal information that all companies have these days. I think people are freaking out because it's EA, and because someone actually took the time to point out a segment of what you blindly hit Accept to every time you're presented with a EULA Oh hey, so I did a little digging into the EULA, and found this little bit conveniently left off of the original post. To the extent that anything in this section conflicts with the terms of EA’s Privacy Policy, the terms of the Privacy Policy shall control. Now let's take a look at the Privacy Policy shall we? EA will never share your personal information with third parties without your consent. We may, however, share anonymous, non-personal, aggregated and/or public information with third parties. Hmm, maybe we should read the whole thing before jumping to conclusions. | ||
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