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Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
June 16 2011 13:30 GMT
#621
On June 16 2011 16:00 erin[go]bragh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 17:03 hmunkey wrote:
Steam basically takes money from developers for doing nothing beyond uploading it to their own servers. If EA wants to sell it on their own service, they should. I see no reason why a company should essentially lose money to another company and receive basically nothing in return.

And regarding the DLC: Is there going to be a competitive advantage for players who get it or will it not matter? Right now everyone's just speculating and assuming unlocked weapons will be better than the ones already in the game.


I've read in a developer Q&A that the guns are being designed specifically not to be overpowered or provide any advantage, they are only there to "expand your arsenal" but of course we won't know for sure until we see them.
)

Does it even matter if they are overpowered If it limits you from an entire playstyle? If the pre order flash suppressor is "essential for close range recon" and is the only "Flash suppressor for snipers in the game" then how can you justify it being an exclusive?

Anyways here is a video that explains a different point of view.If they pull this DLC exclusive stuff in the US then I will be protesting in so form or fasion. Maybe I won't get the game maybe I just won't buy the pre order so companies have no reason to think pre order DLC increases sales numbers.

Letter 2 addresses the BF3 DLC issue but letter 1 is relevant
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 13:31:45
June 16 2011 13:31 GMT
#622
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
June 16 2011 13:33 GMT
#623
It's getting even better. First you vote for parties, which create laws discriminating against download retailers. Then you rip them off. And of course you are the victims and not the companies.
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
June 16 2011 13:51 GMT
#624
uh snot, I'm pretty sure it's not forced by law... in fact I think it's actually the opposite. Certainly the reason is the retail chains in australia pressuring publishers a bit, along with the publishers wanting to make bick and mortar sales, because that looks better to investors. I honestly think steam would very much prefer to ban the practice, but their policy has always been to let people set their own prices and do as they wilst, which is admirable even if in this case it kind of sucks hairy monkeyballs.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 14:36:35
June 16 2011 14:34 GMT
#625
On June 16 2011 22:19 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 21:51 Wuffey wrote:
On June 16 2011 18:55 Perscienter wrote:
The scamers are the people sitting on an island expecting not to have to pay for additional shipping costs. Where's the scam here? You don't have to sign a buy contract with them. Don't you have any legal system education on your island?


You know you're paying the exact same price in germany as you do in australia?


No they're not. Australia is the most expensive place for games in the world.

I think people are not understanding that digital distribution is forced by law to mark up to retail prices, just so our retail industry can stay artificially competitive.

If you're from US, buying X from Steam costs you $60.
If you're from Australia, buying X from Steam costs you $90.

Same digital file, no delivery of any physical item. Purely a discriminatory price based on where you live. That's what we're complaining about.


You said you have to pay $80 to buy BF3. That's almost the exact price they are charging for BF3 in Euros, namely 59€.
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 14:48:01
June 16 2011 14:40 GMT
#626
Just sayin, I have preordered BF3 box-version in Czech (with all DLCs, big poster and BF3 dogtag with my nickname and realname -> example HERE) for 1048CZK, which is 43€ or $60. You guys have very expensive games
Just another gold Protoss...
Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
June 16 2011 14:58 GMT
#627
On June 16 2011 17:25 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 17:21 snotboogie wrote:
I was looking forward to getting it on Steam since prices there are far better than average Australian prices. Now it seems I'll have to go buy it physically since Origins store has prices up at $80.

Still looking forward to this, but damn am I sick and tired of digital distribution sites charging Australians so much more for EXACTLY the same service, just so our overpriced retail industry can compete. It's just ridiculous.


Steam charges $90 USD in Australia for Black Ops. Im pretty sure BF3 would of fallen under the same crappy price scheme.


USD used to have a lead over the AUD. Very similar I'm guessing to the CAN$. So the prices got setup that way a while back .

Only difference is that since there's almost never a "Canada" region for anything, we end up having to pay in USD. Have to say... I can't complain when I pay less for games today than I did 5 years ago.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
June 16 2011 16:00 GMT
#628
You said you have to pay $80 to buy BF3. That's almost the exact price they are charging for BF3 in Euros, namely 59€.


Yes, I admit it's actually better than we usually get.US price seems to be $60 so we're getting overcharged only 30%. We used to pay 95-100 for a PC retail release, but it's been so long since I actually went to a store to buy a game I'm out of touch. Maybe the currency is starting to trickle through.

Still, 30% is plenty much. especially given our dollar is now worth more, so 80AUD is actually worth something like 85 USD.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
Overpowered
Profile Joined January 2011
Czech Republic764 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 17:20:13
June 16 2011 17:08 GMT
#629
As for those weapons and stuff imbalanced and non-fair DLCs, they will be later available for all players regardless of country...for FREE

http://twitter.com/#!/Battlefield/status/81395538259476480
Just another gold Protoss...
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 17:51:49
June 16 2011 17:45 GMT
#630
YES.

YES.

YES.

NO DLC CURSE.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 17:45:55
June 16 2011 17:45 GMT
#631
On June 17 2011 02:45 Fruscainte wrote:

YES.

YES.

YES.

NO DLC CURSE.


Don't hotlink 4Chan ever @___@
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 17:53:42
June 16 2011 17:51 GMT
#632
On June 17 2011 02:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 02:45 Fruscainte wrote:

YES.

YES.

YES.

NO DLC CURSE.


Don't hotlink 4Chan ever @___@


I saw it on /sp/ (the only board without a bunch of children with asperbers generally) so I didn't think to reupload it to somewhere else. Whoops haha.

EDIT: Get 25% off!

http://direct2drive.tellapal.com/a/clk/tcVlm

10% off all around sale, and put in this promo code when you pre-order and you get an extra 15% off. Awww yeah.
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
June 16 2011 18:15 GMT
#633
On June 17 2011 02:51 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 02:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 17 2011 02:45 Fruscainte wrote:

YES.

YES.

YES.

NO DLC CURSE.


Don't hotlink 4Chan ever @___@


I saw it on /sp/ (the only board without a bunch of children with asperbers generally) so I didn't think to reupload it to somewhere else. Whoops haha.

EDIT: Get 25% off!

http://direct2drive.tellapal.com/a/clk/tcVlm

10% off all around sale, and put in this promo code when you pre-order and you get an extra 15% off. Awww yeah.

$45 dollars
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
Kelberot
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil364 Posts
June 16 2011 18:18 GMT
#634
Sorry, how does that direct2drive thing works? I was reading online, it seems that the game comes with weird anti-piracy shit. Is that true?
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
June 16 2011 18:44 GMT
#635
On June 17 2011 03:15 Jswizzy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 02:51 Fruscainte wrote:
On June 17 2011 02:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 17 2011 02:45 Fruscainte wrote:

YES.

YES.

YES.

NO DLC CURSE.


Don't hotlink 4Chan ever @___@


I saw it on /sp/ (the only board without a bunch of children with asperbers generally) so I didn't think to reupload it to somewhere else. Whoops haha.

EDIT: Get 25% off!

http://direct2drive.tellapal.com/a/clk/tcVlm

10% off all around sale, and put in this promo code when you pre-order and you get an extra 15% off. Awww yeah.

$45 dollars


Soo....25%?
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 21:29:52
June 16 2011 21:28 GMT
#636
On June 17 2011 02:45 Fruscainte wrote:
YES.

YES.

YES.

NO DLC CURSE.


That's good if it means for all DLC.

They sort of did the same thing with BC2 - Preorders get 2 free unlocks free or something like that. Anyone else has to grind for them normally (not a big deal though).

Also I'm fine with more weapons even if the stats are relatively the same.

In BF2 I used a few weapons (EU exclusives for example) that were actually worse than most unlocks (stat wise based on BF2wiki) just for fun.

Though in BF2 Special Forces - The RPG-7(?) was a bit overpowered (the projectile moves twice as fast, it reloads twice as fast, and it has a slightly bigger damage radius. Though it lacked a way to guide the missile but did I mention it reloads twice as fast and the projectile moves twice as fast >.>?).

I wouldn't mind having that in regular BF2 though (It'd be kind of overpowered though).
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
June 16 2011 21:35 GMT
#637
On June 17 2011 02:51 Fruscainte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2011 02:45 Torte de Lini wrote:
On June 17 2011 02:45 Fruscainte wrote:

YES.

YES.

YES.

NO DLC CURSE.


Don't hotlink 4Chan ever @___@


I saw it on /sp/ (the only board without a bunch of children with asperbers generally) so I didn't think to reupload it to somewhere else. Whoops haha.

EDIT: Get 25% off!

http://direct2drive.tellapal.com/a/clk/tcVlm

10% off all around sale, and put in this promo code when you pre-order and you get an extra 15% off. Awww yeah.

It's really tempting, but last time I bought a game from D2D it was....Frustrating. I installed it, but couldn't find the executable (Game was Empire earth 3, i believe).
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 16 2011 22:40 GMT
#638
On June 17 2011 02:08 Overpowered wrote:
As for those weapons and stuff imbalanced and non-fair DLCs, they will be later available for all players regardless of country...for FREE

http://twitter.com/#!/Battlefield/status/81395538259476480


Fantastic. Can't wait for this game!
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
June 17 2011 02:59 GMT
#639
New screenshots:
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Source: http://www.zonared.com/noticias/battlefield-3-metro-paris-nuevas-imagenes/
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
June 17 2011 04:18 GMT
#640
wow... that looks so sexy. I can't wait for it to come out :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
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