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snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 16 2011 08:21 GMT
#601
I was looking forward to getting it on Steam since prices there are far better than average Australian prices. Now it seems I'll have to go buy it physically since Origins store has prices up at $80.

Still looking forward to this, but damn am I sick and tired of digital distribution sites charging Australians so much more for EXACTLY the same service, just so our overpriced retail industry can compete. It's just ridiculous.
Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
June 16 2011 08:25 GMT
#602
On June 16 2011 17:21 snotboogie wrote:
I was looking forward to getting it on Steam since prices there are far better than average Australian prices. Now it seems I'll have to go buy it physically since Origins store has prices up at $80.

Still looking forward to this, but damn am I sick and tired of digital distribution sites charging Australians so much more for EXACTLY the same service, just so our overpriced retail industry can compete. It's just ridiculous.


Steam charges $90 USD in Australia for Black Ops. Im pretty sure BF3 would of fallen under the same crappy price scheme.
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 08:34:14
June 16 2011 08:32 GMT
#603
different publishers, and the publishers set the price, not steam. Some of EA's games have used the american pricing scheme regardless of where you live. others have not, it's kind of strange.

Activision, however, always rips us off. I've made it a point that I will pirate any game that attempts to charge me aus retail box prices for a downloaded title, and will buy any game that doesn't even if I wasn't really looking to get it. It feels good, actually. The greedier the bastards get, the more free games I get ^^
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 16 2011 08:38 GMT
#604
On June 16 2011 17:25 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 17:21 snotboogie wrote:
I was looking forward to getting it on Steam since prices there are far better than average Australian prices. Now it seems I'll have to go buy it physically since Origins store has prices up at $80.

Still looking forward to this, but damn am I sick and tired of digital distribution sites charging Australians so much more for EXACTLY the same service, just so our overpriced retail industry can compete. It's just ridiculous.


Steam charges $90 USD in Australia for Black Ops. Im pretty sure BF3 would of fallen under the same crappy price scheme.


Steam is quite strange. Deus Ex is going for $45 so I got that preordered. It's going to cost $90 elsewhere. The Witcher 2 was $45 too, until they jacked it up to $80 a few days before release. And on sales, we get the same price as US customers.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 16 2011 08:49 GMT
#605
On June 16 2011 17:32 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
different publishers, and the publishers set the price, not steam. Some of EA's games have used the american pricing scheme regardless of where you live. others have not, it's kind of strange.

Activision, however, always rips us off. I've made it a point that I will pirate any game that attempts to charge me aus retail box prices for a downloaded title, and will buy any game that doesn't even if I wasn't really looking to get it. It feels good, actually. The greedier the bastards get, the more free games I get ^^

Or you can order the game from online shops from US?! You probaby need to wait a week or so but you will get it way cheaper.

In my country prices are always at least +50% to what I pay from UK online shops so I never buy anything here but order all online.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 16 2011 08:50 GMT
#606
On June 16 2011 17:49 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 17:32 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
different publishers, and the publishers set the price, not steam. Some of EA's games have used the american pricing scheme regardless of where you live. others have not, it's kind of strange.

Activision, however, always rips us off. I've made it a point that I will pirate any game that attempts to charge me aus retail box prices for a downloaded title, and will buy any game that doesn't even if I wasn't really looking to get it. It feels good, actually. The greedier the bastards get, the more free games I get ^^

Or you can order the game from online shops from US?! You probaby need to wait a week or so but you will get it way cheaper.

In my country prices are always at least +50% to what I pay from UK online shops so I never buy anything here but order all online.


I believe it's illegal to buy games like that, and customs seizes it if they find it. At least that's what I read somewhere...
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
June 16 2011 09:02 GMT
#607
Or you can order the game from online shops from US?! You probaby need to wait a week or so but you will get it way cheaper.


It's principle mate, not economics. I'm not going to fork out double, nor bend through hoops just because they want me to. If they sold it at the same price as they do to everyone else, or at least show due cause why they can't, I'd buy it. Hell, I'd buy most of them at the increased price so long as everyone was paying the same. But they're not. We're getting scammed.

So why not scam them back.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
June 16 2011 09:55 GMT
#608
The scamers are the people sitting on an island expecting not to have to pay for additional shipping costs. Where's the scam here? You don't have to sign a buy contract with them. Don't you have any legal system education on your island?
Deleted User 45971
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
533 Posts
June 16 2011 10:06 GMT
#609
On June 16 2011 18:55 Perscienter wrote:
The scamers are the people sitting on an island expecting not to have to pay for additional shipping costs. Where's the scam here? You don't have to sign a buy contract with them. Don't you have any legal system education on your island?


Don't they have to pay double even if they buy the games digitally? And do other products also have the same price increase compared to the rest of the world?
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 16 2011 10:06 GMT
#610
On June 16 2011 18:55 Perscienter wrote:
The scamers are the people sitting on an island expecting not to have to pay for additional shipping costs. Where's the scam here? You don't have to sign a buy contract with them. Don't you have any legal system education on your island?


Right, because Steam, D2D, Impulse, Origin, these sites ship to me and they incur shipping costs.
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
June 16 2011 10:09 GMT
#611
As much as I would like to play BF3 I will probably not buy since they will add these DLC content and extra weapons for pre-order people. Better choice still than CoD Mw3
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
June 16 2011 10:21 GMT
#612
On June 16 2011 17:50 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 17:49 -Archangel- wrote:
On June 16 2011 17:32 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
different publishers, and the publishers set the price, not steam. Some of EA's games have used the american pricing scheme regardless of where you live. others have not, it's kind of strange.

Activision, however, always rips us off. I've made it a point that I will pirate any game that attempts to charge me aus retail box prices for a downloaded title, and will buy any game that doesn't even if I wasn't really looking to get it. It feels good, actually. The greedier the bastards get, the more free games I get ^^

Or you can order the game from online shops from US?! You probaby need to wait a week or so but you will get it way cheaper.

In my country prices are always at least +50% to what I pay from UK online shops so I never buy anything here but order all online.


I believe it's illegal to buy games like that, and customs seizes it if they find it. At least that's what I read somewhere...


o.O

I often import DVDs, Blu-Rays and games from the UK. Most people I know do. Nothing ever happened.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
chickenhawk
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal339 Posts
June 16 2011 10:23 GMT
#613
I believe it's illegal to buy games like that, and customs seizes it if they find it. At least that's what I read somewhere...


He does not live in a country from UE.

But if you live like me, it is legal to buy anything from every UE country and you do not have to pay any more taxes.
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 10:27:01
June 16 2011 10:26 GMT
#614
When they set the price of an AUS retail box, they set the price of an AUS retail box.

Since when is it ok to punish immoral behaviour by illegal actions like pirating downloads?
chickenhawk
Profile Joined February 2011
Portugal339 Posts
June 16 2011 10:29 GMT
#615
Since when is it ok to punish immoral behaviour by illegal actions like pirating downloads?


It's not, but it is an excuse, bad one, but enough for alot of people.
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
June 16 2011 11:23 GMT
#616

The scamers are the people sitting on an island expecting not to have to pay for additional shipping costs. Where's the scam here? You don't have to sign a buy contract with them. Don't you have any legal system education on your island?


Shipping costs for digital files. Yeah.

The scam is that we pay additional costs for exactly the same file from exactly the same server, with absolutely no justification (not even currency- we pay the AUD price in USD- which admittedly is a small benefit right now because the AUD is higher, but for most of the time this has gone on meant that we were paying MORE to get a digital download than a retail box)

Interestingly, my country has laws that forbid a business to refuse business to or discriminate their price against any person on the basis of their gender, race, religion or nationality. I am being made to pay more than *double* the retail price for an identical product simply because when I registered my account, I put 'australia' in the nationality box. We cannot prosecute this because steam is not based nor does it have premises in australia. Also because I'm a dirt poor student who spends most of my money on overpriced games despite pirating the worst examples.

If they do not respect the spirit of my country (and frankly the civil rights code of the entire western world) I don't see why I should respect their claims of copyright. Savvy?

It's not, but it is an excuse, bad one, but enough for alot of people.


It's not even an excuse, it's just what I do, the way things are.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
June 16 2011 11:48 GMT
#617
The justification is the BUY CONTRACT you are signing.

The rest of the posting looks like you don't have any idea of foreign relations and believe in some United Federation of planets nations bs.

Let them charge 500$ per hour of play. Who cares?
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
June 16 2011 12:51 GMT
#618
On June 16 2011 18:55 Perscienter wrote:
The scamers are the people sitting on an island expecting not to have to pay for additional shipping costs. Where's the scam here? You don't have to sign a buy contract with them. Don't you have any legal system education on your island?


You know you're paying the exact same price in germany as you do in australia?
Perscienter
Profile Joined June 2010
957 Posts
June 16 2011 12:58 GMT
#619
No, I didn't notice that, because we Germans are too rich to look at price-tags.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 16 2011 13:19 GMT
#620
On June 16 2011 21:51 Wuffey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 18:55 Perscienter wrote:
The scamers are the people sitting on an island expecting not to have to pay for additional shipping costs. Where's the scam here? You don't have to sign a buy contract with them. Don't you have any legal system education on your island?


You know you're paying the exact same price in germany as you do in australia?


No they're not. Australia is the most expensive place for games in the world.

I think people are not understanding that digital distribution is forced by law to mark up to retail prices, just so our retail industry can stay artificially competitive.

If you're from US, buying X from Steam costs you $60.
If you're from Australia, buying X from Steam costs you $90.

Same digital file, no delivery of any physical item. Purely a discriminatory price based on where you live. That's what we're complaining about.
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