EPTHeroes of Might & Magic VI - Page 9
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14893 Posts
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
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Furycrab
Canada456 Posts
I don't think that this is going to be a bad thing for the game, but I just don't think this is the kind of thing we should be "ok" or even hyped about... I was maybe a week or two away from considering pre-ordering it myself, and had I ordered the game and had they pulled that stunt on me... You can be certain that I would be calling up Valve customer support for a refund. Also I'm not sold on the whole Beta access if you pre-order, it puts you in a place where they might refuse to refund a pre-order even if as you see it shape up it becomes clear it might be terrible. Anyone who got involved in Elemental: War of Magic knows how that "could" turn out. * *In it's defense I didn't try to cancel my pre-order, but I probably should have and I wonder what they would have said/done. | ||
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Pangolin
United States1035 Posts
On June 03 2011 00:47 Furycrab wrote: It's not that the release date was pushed back that pisses me off. It's that it was a steam featured sale for a very good amount of time (while on the subject, I'm getting a bit annoyed when 4-5 pages of the featured is a game that isn't even out yet). With a release date... Then probably something happened that would make a spring release not quite work, so they just decided to go for the Fall release. I don't think that this is going to be a bad thing for the game, but I just don't think this is the kind of thing we should be "ok" or even hyped about... I was maybe a week or two away from considering pre-ordering it myself, and had I ordered the game and had they pulled that stunt on me... You can be certain that I would be calling up Valve customer support for a refund. Also I'm not sold on the whole Beta access if you pre-order, it puts you in a place where they might refuse to refund a pre-order even if as you see it shape up it becomes clear it might be terrible. Anyone who got involved in Elemental: War of Magic knows how that "could" turn out. * *In it's defense I didn't try to cancel my pre-order, but I probably should have and I wonder what they would have said/done. I can understand the beta access for pre-order part (I myself also own a copy of Elemental due to this). However, being mad about a game you pre-ordered having it's release date pushed back is silly. It's the nature of the industry and it's been happening for a while. There was an image circling the internet of a dude's pre-order receipt for Duke Nukem Forever from the late 90s for crying out loud. A couple extra months of waiting is nothing to get angry about. | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
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Furycrab
Canada456 Posts
On June 03 2011 00:54 Pangolin wrote: I can understand the beta access for pre-order part (I myself also own a copy of Elemental due to this). However, being mad about a game you pre-ordered having it's release date pushed back is silly. It's the nature of the industry and it's been happening for a while. There was an image circling the internet of a dude's pre-order receipt for Duke Nukem Forever from the late 90s for crying out loud. A couple extra months of waiting is nothing to get angry about. To me it's not a standard of the industry. If some guy decided to be an idiot and pre-ordered early from some random retailer that just took his money early, than ya there is some precedent. However with digital distribution, I feel a more direct contact with the devs and if you felt you could deliver something on some date took the money from a ton of people, then decided it would be better financially to go for an early fall release than a late spring release, I would be pissed. Will they improve the game till then? Of course, but if you believe they pushed it back because they couldn't finish the game in time and that it's to make a better game, you are wee bit naive. They did it probably because Pre-orders weren't to impressive and summer sales in the industry are terrible for any dev that doesn't have the luxury of being called Blizzard. So I'm not impressed by this, and will likely wait till reviews come out of the final product <.<. | ||
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Daray
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Latham
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On June 03 2011 01:22 Latham wrote: I was never a fan of playing HoMM games in multiplayer then you really should not talk. HOMM is meant to be played multiplayer. the single player game is nothing. i've played HOMM3 for like 12 years now or whatever and HOMM5 for a few years, and i can 1v7 the equivalent of insane AI without fail every single time in HOMM3 and 1v4 it on HOMM5. i often get raped playing other humans. =) | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On June 03 2011 01:22 Latham wrote: I'm really hesitant about this game. To me, HoMM 3 was the pinnacle of the series. Homm 2 and 5 were good games, but homm 5 had a really really cheesy campaign that I really didn't enjoy. I was never a fan of playing HoMM games in multiplayer just because of the time investment. I usually play custom maps and scenarios to this very day in Homm 3 on hardest difficulty, but the most recent homm (5) had terribad AI for that kind of thing. Since homm 6 is being developed by the same company I don't expect much from the AI (I expect the campaign to be fully scripted and the custom AI to suck balls), so I dunno if this game's worth getting. There are only like 5 castles this time around too... Homm 6 is developed by a different company. H5 was made by Nival Interactive, a russian company, and produced by Ubisoft. H6 is still being produced by Ubisoft, since they own the franchise, but the developer is Black Hole entertainment. The thing is that AI, unlike visual design or core gameplay, is something that is almost entirely on the shoulders of the actual developer, the producer has little say in it unless the AI is a part of core gameplay which is not the case here. The only thing Ubisoft should be worrying about is that slow and cumbersome AI was affecting H5's popularity so I think they will pay more attention to it now. | ||
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dangots0ul
United States919 Posts
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Danjoh
Sweden405 Posts
On June 03 2011 01:20 Daray wrote: I played 2 and 3 A LOT but never tried 4 or 5 before today. Just installed 4 and tried to play it but the UI seems confusing as fuck, i have a bad hangover atm though :D If you liked 2 and 3... I would really recomend you to uninstall 4 asap! =) That game just felt awful... 5th feels alot more true to the franchise. | ||
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SpaceFighting
New Zealand690 Posts
i will definitely buy this, looks promising to i suppose, looks like they removed the hexagon floor board on combat mode, which sucks since i loved the hexagons in 3, o well...square just seems so...cliche for these types of games...anyway cant wait xD unless its alrdy out =.= | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
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Catreina
United States304 Posts
On December 13 2010 10:22 N3rV[Green] wrote: If they can really bring the core that was HoMM3 I would be one happy motherfucker. I mean, I still play hot seat games of HoMM3 with my buddies that last for days and days, always good fun. We tried to make the magic happen with HoMM5...but it just wasn't there. This I was a player, tournament administrator, and hot seat fan of Heroes 2 and 3, didnt really play 4, and had a contest + beta tested 5 (and ran the saveheroes.org site) but couldnt really get into 5 .... it lost the magic that 2 and 3 had - I am listed in the credits (though there is a carriage return missing) for Heroes 5 as a beta tester. That said, if Heroes 6 brings back the draw that made Heroes 3 the awesome game that it still is today, I can see Tournament of Honor picking up a lot of players. | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3421 Posts
Also, it strikes me as odd that musical scores are nowhere near as good as they ware more than a decade ago. HOMM3 is the best in the series by far even by todays standards, in my opinion. I hope 6 will be at least half as good. | ||
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stk01001
United States786 Posts
On June 03 2011 00:24 KOFgokuon wrote: I'm not that impressed w/ the graphics =/ honestly, if your that into good graphics, your playing the wrong genre of game.. As a HOMM 3 fan, good graphics are pretty low on the list with respect to how much I'm going to like this game. If the core gameplay is good and if it's as much fun to play as HOMM3, just with more features, that will be plenty for me. I hate when they screw up the core content of a game and instead concentrate on flashy graphics etc. I mean honestly, is anyone playing turn based strategy games for the graphics? it's the strategical aspect that makes the games fun, not the graphics. Sure graphics are a huge deal in other genres like 3D shooters, sports games, racing games, etc, but not so much turn based stategy.. (you could even argue the same for real time, look at all the pros who play SC2 on low settings) | ||
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