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ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
November 03 2011 18:55 GMT
#1541
On November 04 2011 03:08 DJEtterStyle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 20:34 Acronysis wrote:
On November 03 2011 12:45 Kibibit wrote:
I always feel a little out of place when I generally say that even WITHOUT mods, Elder scrolls games are still extremely playable. Morrowind is so engaging that I continued to play it on the Xbox, where I first learned of the Elder Scrolls games, despite it's night constant crashing and tricks needed to keep the memory usage down (as it would lock up once you used more than a certain amount) Even Oblivion, the lesser of the two Elder scrolls games I've loved, is still pretty damn playable stock. There's no denying the value of OOO, but it always comes off to me as a little wierd when so many people shit on the game so hard vanilla. In fact, a lot of mods break immersion for me so hard that I generally duck a good amount.


I love the TES games just as they are. I'll admit that i've never played with mods (never really had the option), so maybe i'm missing out on a Huge amount of enjoyment, but all I know is that even right now, even playing the console version, that besides Blizzard games, TES is definitely my favorite. Maybe it's just because the appeal to the game fits me exactly, but I just think that they're is so much to love and appreciate and do despite its flaws that it is easy for me to enjoy. Still haven't played another RPG that can quite live up to it in my experience, and that's just the vanilla version!

Don't let the PC gaming master race get you down. The Elder Scrolls games are amazing on PC, console, with mods, and without. Every game has been better than the one before it. Enjoy!

Uhm, no, and no. Sorry
no dude, the question
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
November 03 2011 19:04 GMT
#1542
On November 04 2011 03:55 ZaaaaaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 03:08 DJEtterStyle wrote:
On November 03 2011 20:34 Acronysis wrote:
On November 03 2011 12:45 Kibibit wrote:
I always feel a little out of place when I generally say that even WITHOUT mods, Elder scrolls games are still extremely playable. Morrowind is so engaging that I continued to play it on the Xbox, where I first learned of the Elder Scrolls games, despite it's night constant crashing and tricks needed to keep the memory usage down (as it would lock up once you used more than a certain amount) Even Oblivion, the lesser of the two Elder scrolls games I've loved, is still pretty damn playable stock. There's no denying the value of OOO, but it always comes off to me as a little wierd when so many people shit on the game so hard vanilla. In fact, a lot of mods break immersion for me so hard that I generally duck a good amount.


I love the TES games just as they are. I'll admit that i've never played with mods (never really had the option), so maybe i'm missing out on a Huge amount of enjoyment, but all I know is that even right now, even playing the console version, that besides Blizzard games, TES is definitely my favorite. Maybe it's just because the appeal to the game fits me exactly, but I just think that they're is so much to love and appreciate and do despite its flaws that it is easy for me to enjoy. Still haven't played another RPG that can quite live up to it in my experience, and that's just the vanilla version!

Don't let the PC gaming master race get you down. The Elder Scrolls games are amazing on PC, console, with mods, and without. Every game has been better than the one before it. Enjoy!

Uhm, no, and no. Sorry



Um, I'm sorry but it seems like you're trying to tell me what and how I should feel about things. This is wrong.

I played oblivion on console when it came out, I think it was even my first 360 game. I played that shit for well over 100 hours and I loved it. How can you possibly tell me I'm wrong?

Mods make it a better game, without a doubt. But I have a hard time understanding where this console/nomods HATE comes from........

Hell, I played Fallout 3 and new-vegas on console without mods too. I had a fucking blast.

So please people, try not to throw out your opinions as facts, and remember to just love the games. That's all.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
ChinaWhite
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom239 Posts
November 03 2011 19:15 GMT
#1543
^ I think the hate generally comes from the fact that Bethesda have had to 'dumb down' their games massively to appeal to the console crowds.

Whilst Oblivion was a good game compared to other titles, it fell well short of its potential, and was far inferior to Morrowind.

I guess there is also the feeling that console hardware limitations prevent developers from making the most of modern PC technology.

Not saying any of the above can be proven as facts, just that they are pretty common (and valid) opinions.

Fallout 3 was an improvement over Oblivion so there are signs we're moving back in the right direction. Skyrim will be good for what it is on both platforms I'm sure.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 19:27:33
November 03 2011 19:26 GMT
#1544
On November 04 2011 04:15 ChinaWhite wrote:
^ I think the hate generally comes from the fact that Bethesda have had to 'dumb down' their games massively to appeal to the console crowds.

Whilst Oblivion was a good game compared to other titles, it fell well short of its potential, and was far inferior to Morrowind.

I guess there is also the feeling that console hardware limitations prevent developers from making the most of modern PC technology.

Not saying any of the above can be proven as facts, just that they are pretty common (and valid) opinions.

Fallout 3 was an improvement over Oblivion so there are signs we're moving back in the right direction. Skyrim will be good for what it is on both platforms I'm sure.


It's not just a dumbing down of the game play, or graphics, but even has a huge impact on the game as a whole including the interface. Many people's complaints with Oblivion include an awkward-as-fuck inventory and menu system that was designed from the ground up for consoles. So if you played it on a console and didn't see any problem, that's because many features were designed specifically for consoles. But if you had to use those menus on a pc, you might agree that it felt not quite right, like something was missing. That's where a lot of basic mods come in; making basic changes to the menu system to adapt the game to the PC. In many ways, modders had to complete the 'port' to pc from console.

Other mods that deal with things like level scaling and content are great too and make it basically a completely different game, but the core of what I think mods bring to TES games on PC is absolutely necessary in order to not feel like you're playing a shitty port of a console game.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
November 03 2011 19:33 GMT
#1545
Im sure there are MANY of you who don't give a shit about waiting. If you are one of those people like me, here you go.

http://188.165.209.105/~wootbiz/test/skyrim2.html

3 hours of wonderful quality footage with commentary. I really love the internet.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Mr. Sunday
Profile Joined June 2011
140 Posts
November 03 2011 19:44 GMT
#1546
On November 04 2011 04:33 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Im sure there are MANY of you who don't give a shit about waiting. If you are one of those people like me, here you go.

http://188.165.209.105/~wootbiz/test/skyrim2.html

3 hours of wonderful quality footage with commentary. I really love the internet.


I'm just too weak, I clicked immediatly, guess I'll just watch it now... damn you !
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
November 03 2011 19:58 GMT
#1547
On November 04 2011 04:44 Mr. Sunday wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:33 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Im sure there are MANY of you who don't give a shit about waiting. If you are one of those people like me, here you go.

http://188.165.209.105/~wootbiz/test/skyrim2.html

3 hours of wonderful quality footage with commentary. I really love the internet.


I'm just too weak, I clicked immediatly, guess I'll just watch it now... damn you !

I will resist. I got Morrowind without having watched any trailer and I remember when I first walked up to vivec and it started appearing out of the fog of the sucky viewing distance, and it just kept on getting bigger and bigger, I was in awe like never before while playing video games.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 03 2011 20:03 GMT
#1548
On November 04 2011 04:26 Eschaton wrote:
Other mods that deal with things like level scaling and content are great too and make it basically a completely different game, but the core of what I think mods bring to TES games on PC is absolutely necessary in order to not feel like you're playing a shitty port of a console game.


I completely agree. I almost want to wait a few months for Skyrim until modders have made a usable PC interface for the game. Every video I've seen of the game's menu system has made me cringe.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 20:04:59
November 03 2011 20:04 GMT
#1549
On November 04 2011 05:03 ShadowDrgn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:26 Eschaton wrote:
Other mods that deal with things like level scaling and content are great too and make it basically a completely different game, but the core of what I think mods bring to TES games on PC is absolutely necessary in order to not feel like you're playing a shitty port of a console game.


I completely agree. I almost want to wait a few months for Skyrim until modders have made a usable PC interface for the game. Every video I've seen of the game's menu system has made me cringe.

As far as I know there is no menu footage for the pc? And yes, the pc has a different menu system.
On November 04 2011 04:33 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Im sure there are MANY of you who don't give a shit about waiting. If you are one of those people like me, here you go.

http://188.165.209.105/~wootbiz/test/skyrim2.html

3 hours of wonderful quality footage with commentary. I really love the internet.

Thanks for the link, but had to stop watching after like 15 minutes because he starts doing the main quest hehe
no dude, the question
Mr. Sunday
Profile Joined June 2011
140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 20:10:43
November 03 2011 20:10 GMT
#1550
Yea I stopped watching it too, I zapped everything that involved quests, just watched the gameplay stuff and I find it pretty promising actually. I like the way crafting seems to work.
NagAfightinG
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom270 Posts
November 03 2011 20:33 GMT
#1551
Holy shit, Seeing him get obliterated by that Frost Troll made me sooo much happier that they have scrapped scaling
We live like animals thinking of the afterlive
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
November 03 2011 20:38 GMT
#1552
On November 04 2011 04:33 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Im sure there are MANY of you who don't give a shit about waiting. If you are one of those people like me, here you go.

http://188.165.209.105/~wootbiz/test/skyrim2.html

3 hours of wonderful quality footage with commentary. I really love the internet.

Actually this is a console version so quality footage does not fit into that sentence.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 03 2011 20:42 GMT
#1553
God that gameplay :O
Life's good :D
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
November 03 2011 20:50 GMT
#1554
On November 03 2011 12:38 Whole wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 12:29 BlueBird. wrote:
On November 03 2011 08:48 Angra wrote:
I'm not really sure why it bugs me so much.. I don't really even have a problem with fast traveling or anything else out of convenience most of the time, it's just the amount of inventory space that always gets to me haha.


Mods :D!!! That's what is so awesome about these games, you can pretty much decide how you want to play the game and change things to how you want it.

You don't even need mods to change your inventory space. If you have a PC, you can just console command it.


It's not really just inventory space that I'm talking about. It's a realistic amount of items. Even with a small amount of inventory space, you could still carry say, either 1 huge sword OR 30 potions.

I guess I'm the only one who it breaks the immersion for.. and yet fast travel and people freezing during dialogue etc doesnt really for me, but does for others :p Oh well.
ballasdontcry
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada595 Posts
November 03 2011 21:20 GMT
#1555
Nov 11 can't come soon enough... though I still have midterms to tackle.
NagAfightinG
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom270 Posts
November 03 2011 21:31 GMT
#1556
On November 04 2011 05:38 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:33 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Im sure there are MANY of you who don't give a shit about waiting. If you are one of those people like me, here you go.

http://188.165.209.105/~wootbiz/test/skyrim2.html

3 hours of wonderful quality footage with commentary. I really love the internet.

Actually this is a console version so quality footage does not fit into that sentence.

Shut the fuck up, that sort of shit is boring now, christ
We live like animals thinking of the afterlive
Drowsy
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States4876 Posts
November 03 2011 21:50 GMT
#1557
On November 04 2011 04:33 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Im sure there are MANY of you who don't give a shit about waiting. If you are one of those people like me, here you go.

http://188.165.209.105/~wootbiz/test/skyrim2.html

3 hours of wonderful quality footage with commentary. I really love the internet.

Thanks a TON for this. I'm just not one of those people who gets super bothered by spoilers I guess.
Our Protoss, Who art in Aiur HongUn be Thy name; Thy stalker come, Thy will be blunk, on ladder as it is in Micro Tourny. Give us this win in our daily ladder, and forgive us our cheeses, As we forgive those who play zerg against us.
jester-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada547 Posts
November 03 2011 21:54 GMT
#1558
On November 04 2011 06:31 NagAfightinG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 05:38 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:33 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Im sure there are MANY of you who don't give a shit about waiting. If you are one of those people like me, here you go.

http://188.165.209.105/~wootbiz/test/skyrim2.html

3 hours of wonderful quality footage with commentary. I really love the internet.

Actually this is a console version so quality footage does not fit into that sentence.

Shut the fuck up, that sort of shit is boring now, christ


Relax, he's technically right whether you like it or not. It's a matter of technical specifications. I use a year old laptop and my mobile card is better than the 360 or ps3.

Obviously it's going to look wwaayyyy better on an optimal PC than a console.
Arise, chicken sandwich.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
November 03 2011 22:05 GMT
#1559
For people that dont want main quest shit, he gets done with that pretty early on and stops all main quest stuff to just wander around and do random things. My only gripe is he's just so bad at the game.....T_T

But you see all the crafting and such (cept alchemy I think) and some decent combat. After I get through all of it I think I'll be done obsessing over any and all leaked info though.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
NagAfightinG
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom270 Posts
November 03 2011 22:51 GMT
#1560
On November 04 2011 06:54 jester- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 06:31 NagAfightinG wrote:
On November 04 2011 05:38 -Archangel- wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:33 N3rV[Green] wrote:
Im sure there are MANY of you who don't give a shit about waiting. If you are one of those people like me, here you go.

http://188.165.209.105/~wootbiz/test/skyrim2.html

3 hours of wonderful quality footage with commentary. I really love the internet.

Actually this is a console version so quality footage does not fit into that sentence.

Shut the fuck up, that sort of shit is boring now, christ


Relax, he's technically right whether you like it or not. It's a matter of technical specifications. I use a year old laptop and my mobile card is better than the 360 or ps3.

Obviously it's going to look wwaayyyy better on an optimal PC than a console.

Dude, The fact is he took a statement that had nothing to do with the graphical performance, and made it so it did. Its so annoying when its been like that for the last 3~ pages ¬¬
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