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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 03 2011 10:55 GMT
#1501
Im eagerly awaiting skyrim, i cant believe i put off morrowind all those years ago and have only just found oblivion (with OOO). I guess i will have to pick up morrowind again, but when i played it every dungeon was extremely generic? "Mine, mine mine mine, tomb, mine, tomb, tomb, mine"

Oblivion with OOO has me hooked.
Useless wet fish.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
November 03 2011 11:03 GMT
#1502
Steam makes this a no-go for me.
I know a lot of people like Steam, but I avoid it like the plague... and any games using it, for so long now lol.
Maybe I'll pick it up on console (if I ever get one).
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StayFrosty
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada743 Posts
November 03 2011 11:05 GMT
#1503
On November 03 2011 20:03 screamingpalm wrote:
Steam makes this a no-go for me.
I know a lot of people like Steam, but I avoid it like the plague... and any games using it, for so long now lol.
Maybe I'll pick it up on console (if I ever get one).


Why? It's such a great system...
ArYeS
Profile Joined June 2010
Slovenia268 Posts
November 03 2011 11:06 GMT
#1504
On November 03 2011 19:36 BlueBird. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 17:29 -Trippin- wrote:
You should have tried Oscuros Oblivion Overhaul; it fixed both of those issues and made the game absolutely epic... it was a must have mod. Guess what? Bethesda hired the author of OOO to design the dungeons for Skyrim. This is the sole reason I am buying the game because I know it will be epic just because of this.


I didn't realize that the maker of OOO was working on skyrim, now I won't be able to sleep


On his website it says he joined Obsidian Entertainment (which made Fallout: New Vegas).
Or do you have different sources saying he work on Skyrim now?
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
November 03 2011 11:10 GMT
#1505


Why? It's such a great system...


I tried it a long time ago and couldn't stand it (although I'm sure it has improved since then) and I like to keep a bare minimum of programs that suck up resources in task manager. I don't want to have to have it load everyday just for one game and not be able to uninstall it. By itself, it's probably not very resource hungry, but over time, each of those programs start to add up and begin to slow performance.

If I could activate the game with it and get rid of it, I would get it for PC.
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ZaaaaaM
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1828 Posts
November 03 2011 11:33 GMT
#1506
On November 03 2011 20:10 screamingpalm wrote:
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Why? It's such a great system...


I tried it a long time ago and couldn't stand it (although I'm sure it has improved since then) and I like to keep a bare minimum of programs that suck up resources in task manager. I don't want to have to have it load everyday just for one game and not be able to uninstall it. By itself, it's probably not very resource hungry, but over time, each of those programs start to add up and begin to slow performance.

If I could activate the game with it and get rid of it, I would get it for PC.

What? You kind of sound like my grandpa lol. Weirdest argument for not getting skyrim ive heard yet.
no dude, the question
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
November 03 2011 11:34 GMT
#1507
On November 03 2011 12:45 Kibibit wrote:
I always feel a little out of place when I generally say that even WITHOUT mods, Elder scrolls games are still extremely playable. Morrowind is so engaging that I continued to play it on the Xbox, where I first learned of the Elder Scrolls games, despite it's night constant crashing and tricks needed to keep the memory usage down (as it would lock up once you used more than a certain amount) Even Oblivion, the lesser of the two Elder scrolls games I've loved, is still pretty damn playable stock. There's no denying the value of OOO, but it always comes off to me as a little wierd when so many people shit on the game so hard vanilla. In fact, a lot of mods break immersion for me so hard that I generally duck a good amount.


I love the TES games just as they are. I'll admit that i've never played with mods (never really had the option), so maybe i'm missing out on a Huge amount of enjoyment, but all I know is that even right now, even playing the console version, that besides Blizzard games, TES is definitely my favorite. Maybe it's just because the appeal to the game fits me exactly, but I just think that they're is so much to love and appreciate and do despite its flaws that it is easy for me to enjoy. Still haven't played another RPG that can quite live up to it in my experience, and that's just the vanilla version!
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
November 03 2011 11:35 GMT
#1508


What? You kind of sound like my grandpa lol. Weirdest argument for not getting skyrim ive heard yet.


Oh I'll probably get it, just not for PC.
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ArYeS
Profile Joined June 2010
Slovenia268 Posts
November 03 2011 13:41 GMT
#1509
Yeah, I've been just informed that my new graphics card comes in early next week. I've been afraid I'll have to play on the old one

Now it's just waiting, oh and new offical wallpaper came out:
http://www.bethblog.com/index.php/2011/11/02/new-skyrim-wallpaper/
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
November 03 2011 13:43 GMT
#1510
On November 03 2011 16:57 IMSmooth wrote:
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On November 03 2011 15:31 heishe wrote:
The vanilla Oblivion and Morrowind were both not better than 6/10 or something for me.

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The worlds were way, way too generic in Oblivion and way too bland in Morrowind (even by the standards of graphics at the time it came out).Both of these things are something that Bethesda openly admitted to a lot of times (via Todd Howard), mostly during the times when they were marketing for Fallout 3, because that world was mostly hand-designed. It bothered me a great deal, because in none of the two games I ever had the feeling of exploring places. Yeah, you'd go to new places but you wouldn't actually find anything new - just the same old things with a little bit of a different shape. On the other hand, that was one of the really strong points of Fallout 3 for me, that "environmental storytelling" that they've been talking about a couple of times. If it's anywhere near as good in Skyrim, this will be the first ES game I really love.

The combat has always been kinda boring - in Morrowind it was worse though, with the RNG based hitting (don't know which ruleset they used exactly) and missing which imo just doesn't fit into that style or real time action combat at all. In Oblivion it was better, but it had this terrible "weightless" feel to it, like most of my actions didn't have any effect on my opponent. Skyrim seems to still have that, even though it looks like they make a lot more things to make up for it (finishing moves, more virtual force feedback through sound, etc.)

The dialogue and story has always been terribly written. In Morrowind, you'd ask an NPC a simple question and he'd answer with a wall of text. Every NPC seemed to be a writer by heart or something. Really, who talks like that? That stuff is unbelievable and also lame to read, imo. Admittedly the only ES game I ever played more than 20 or so hours is Oblivion so it might actually get better in Morrowind later, but I seriously doubt it. In Oblivion it was the other bad end of the spectrum: The main story was so generic it made my brain hurt. Evil guys from other dimension invade world, you have to go kill boss of the evil guys? Come on...

Not to mention the ton of bugs that existed in those games without all the mods and fan patches.

I could go on, but like I said 6/10.




Damn, sounds pretty picky to me. I absolutely loved each of them, although i liked morrowind better because its world was so imaginative and i felt like exploring every single area of it. The three main houses were also cool and i enjoyed getting to the top of all three on different characters ^_^.

I honestly say the computer version with mods is only necessary if you want to break the 300+ hour threshold. The vanilla games hold at least that much content. I played Oblivion on console and morrowind on BOTH. The mods people do are amazing but they are not a necessity unless you have weird little nitpicks that for some reason ruin an entire game to you(+ Show Spoiler +
HOW COME MY MONEY DOESNT HAVE WEIGHT RAWWRRRR
). As for me, i like to play it on a 108 in 1080p projector with surround sound... so console it is for me. In addition i am not as picky as most here so the regular version of the game will be just perfect.

just 8 more days until i have the CE and the strategy guide in my mailbox



Vanilla Oblivion got boring to me after around 20 hours....the only thing worth playing in vanilla was the thieves guild and dark brotherhood storylines imo. Exploring the world was boring because it all pretty much looked the same and you could go for miles without seeing any enemies...and when you did it was some random bear or wolf. It doesn't really matter how big the world is when its all so monotone and all the dungeons use like the same 4 skins over and over and contain no loot 90% of the time. Not to mention leveling was pointless and tedious cause of the scaling and the main quest was atrocious -_-. Without mods I would've stopped there but once I discovered them I put easily 100+ hours in the game.
topoulo
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
November 03 2011 13:44 GMT
#1511
Morrowind was introduced back in 1999 fyi.

Saying that a 1999 game had generic dungeons in 2011 ... what do oyu expect.

For that time however morrowind was pure epic the best there was and remains the same analogically.

You dont need any mods apart graphics packages to enjoy morrowind , thats is if you enjoy exploration and a great story.

Oblivion however was several step backwards for the genre , awfull combat system for that time ( no dual wield for assassins but instead 1h shield for instance ) horrible leveling , bs looting system , dull enviroments , crap main storyline and many other things.


Oblivion with mods becomes much better though but still not even close with morrowind

As for skyrim so far so goo , in fact even in xbox it seems really great , i just hope they dont screw up the pc version .
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 03 2011 13:44 GMT
#1512
Just spent all morning watching a stream of the Skyrim leak.

In general, dialogue and animations look much less awkward now. The main questline seems to be quite interesting this time around, and dragons are fun to fight.

The level scaling is also done better this time around. There were several times when the streamer fought a few enemies that were way out of his league, causing him to run or retreat to safety. Also, player-resurrected zombies make funny moaning noises and turn to ash when they die.
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pTrItzepouk
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany44 Posts
November 03 2011 13:49 GMT
#1513
Hi sorry if this is a dumb question but I want to pre download from steam but i live in Germany and I want to play it in English so I am scared it will be in German if I download it from can you choose or change language at all im downloading from steam?

Thanks for help
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topoulo
Profile Joined September 2011
253 Posts
November 03 2011 13:51 GMT
#1514
Can you pm the stream pls or put it in spoilers - since they tend to go down after a while - cause i enjoy it as like im watching a good movie
dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
November 03 2011 13:52 GMT
#1515
On November 03 2011 20:03 screamingpalm wrote:
Steam makes this a no-go for me.
I know a lot of people like Steam, but I avoid it like the plague... and any games using it, for so long now lol.
Maybe I'll pick it up on console (if I ever get one).


lol, this would be a valid argument.....a few years ago.

Seriously, steam isn't that bad... you should try it. I used to dislike steam myself.
..
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
November 03 2011 13:55 GMT
#1516
On November 03 2011 22:52 dinmsab wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 20:03 screamingpalm wrote:
Steam makes this a no-go for me.
I know a lot of people like Steam, but I avoid it like the plague... and any games using it, for so long now lol.
Maybe I'll pick it up on console (if I ever get one).


lol, this would be a valid argument.....a few years ago.

Seriously, steam isn't that bad... you should try it. I used to dislike steam myself.


Same. When Steam first came out it wasn't great.

Now it's awesome.

Valve makes great products from the ground up.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
November 03 2011 13:59 GMT
#1517
On November 03 2011 20:03 screamingpalm wrote:
Steam makes this a no-go for me.
I know a lot of people like Steam, but I avoid it like the plague... and any games using it, for so long now lol.
Maybe I'll pick it up on console (if I ever get one).


I bet you play BF3 and have Origin installed
ArYeS
Profile Joined June 2010
Slovenia268 Posts
November 03 2011 14:05 GMT
#1518
Awesome Soundtrack also available, I'm considering picking this up, but DirectSong site and support is just useless.. I don't know what to do...

http://www.bethblog.com/index.php/2011/11/03/pre-order-the-four-disc-skyrim-soundtrack/comment-page-1/#comment-215054
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 14:12:57
November 03 2011 14:06 GMT
#1519
On November 03 2011 22:41 ArYeS wrote:
Yeah, I've been just informed that my new graphics card comes in early next week. I've been afraid I'll have to play on the old one

Now it's just waiting, oh and new offical wallpaper came out:
http://www.bethblog.com/index.php/2011/11/02/new-skyrim-wallpaper/


I just had my new parts delivered for this and bf3/mw3 too.

I5 2500k
P67 mobo
8gb ripjaw memory

along with my 560 TI.

Skyrim is gonna be saaaaweeeeeeeeeeeet

On November 03 2011 22:59 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 20:03 screamingpalm wrote:
Steam makes this a no-go for me.
I know a lot of people like Steam, but I avoid it like the plague... and any games using it, for so long now lol.
Maybe I'll pick it up on console (if I ever get one).


I bet you play BF3 and have Origin installed


^ Im with this guy. I bet you do. Origin is way more fucking useless and resource hogging, and its still comparable to nothing.

Honestly there are waaay more "wasteful" programs in my opinion, and you can run steam as and when you please. You also get access to a ton of free games, demo's and offers, for the slight inconvienence of having it take 0.01% of your memory and processing power WHEN you choose to run it. I honestly dont see your problem.

I bet even if you dont have origin, you have firefox, or chrome or something of the likes. Why? their pointless.

In fact, why have antivirus programs, they consume so much processing power. If you get virused you can just reinstall and have even LESS of your computers power being used, right?

Hey wait, uninstall SC2 also! When you use it it takes up so much power >.>

Stupid thing to say about something you can choose to run if and when you please lol, you use it only to play skyrim, if your PC is that affected by steam, it for hell sure cant run skyrim. and if your not playing skyrim? Turn it off.

EDIT: Yes, im half trolling.
Useless wet fish.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
November 03 2011 14:11 GMT
#1520

I bet you play BF3 and have Origin installed


Never played that one. I don't know, maybe I'll give it another chance. I suppose if I still don't like it I can uninstall it and get for console later on.
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