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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 03 2011 23:10 GMT
#1561
For anyone who is curious about the story and are willing to get spoiled, here is what I have deciphered after several hours of watching streams of the leaked Xbox version of Skyrim:

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MAJOR SPOILER ALERT
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Seriously, do not proceed if you don't want to get spoiled.
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It's not my fault if you made it this far.
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Ok, here it is...
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According to the leaked intro sequence, the main character is caught by the Imperials and is sent to an Imperial fort to be executed alongside other prisoners, including Ulfric Stormcloak who is leader of one of the rebellions in Skyrim and charged with killing a king or something. Right before the player is executed, a dragon swoops in and causes tremendous chaos and destruction, allowing the player to escape his execution. The player escapes with one of the other prisoners via an underground passage, and once he is on the other side, all of Skyrim opens up for exploration.

So when I watched the stream, the player was already somewhat ahead of this introductory/tutorial sequence. He was going through a cave/dungeon full of zombie Nords, and at the end, he retrieved a dragon stone. The player returned to Whiterun and presents the dragon stone to the city's leaders, but just then the city gets attacked by a dragon and the player is called to help.

The player kills the dragon, and the nearby soldiers witness the player absorbing the dragon's "soul," prompting them to speculate that the player may be a dragonborn himself. The king of Whiterun is impressed by the player's deeds, and offers a house for purchase in the city as well as a girl warrior as a companion (the stream chat of /v/irgins nicknamed her "waifu').

The player is then told that the Greybeards are seeking to summon the dragonborn, and so the player is directed to the Greybeard compound on top of a nearby mountain. The player goes up, learns a dragon shout from the Greybeards, and is tasked with retrieving this magic horn (I think; I was browsing something else during this time). When the player goes through the cave and reaches the end, the magic horn is missing and is replaced by a note asking that the player order the attic room at the Riverwood Inn in order to meet a mysterious individual.

The Riverwood Inn doesn't actually have an attic room, but when the player asks for it, the inn's owner takes the player out back and reveals that she is secretly a member of The Blades, who have been in decline since the last Imperial emperor was killed. She also claims that the dragons actually did not disappear but instead died off, and they are not actually returning but being resurrected since their burial mounds are starting to empty out. She gives the player the magic horn, but says that she won't reveal any more information until the player proves that he is a dragonborn by killing another dragon and absorbing its soul in front of her.

The player follows the innkeeper to a dragon burial mound area and witnesses the dragon who burnt up the Imperial camp at the beginning of the game trying to resurrect another dragon. The player kills the resurrected dragon and absorbs its soul, and the innkeeper becomes especially impressed and reveals more information. The player returns to the Greybeard compound to return the magic horn and learns another shout, then returns to the innkeeper for the next part of her plan.

Apparently, the innkeeper suspects that the Thalmor Dominion is behind the dragon resurrections, as they stand to gain the most from the chaos in Skyrim due to their war against the Imperials. The player then is tasked with sneaking into the Thalmor embassy in Solitude via a party in order to steal some information from the Thalmors.

The stream got shut down right after the player escaped from the Thalmor embassy.

There is a compound of bandits alongside one of the roads that charges a hefty toll for passage, but the player can fight all the bandits to get rid of the toll forever.

There are a few creatures scattered around that seemed to be scaled way above the player level, resulting in the streaming player dying several times to random Ice Trolls and Mages as well as a Spriggan and her pet plant-bear-thing in her cave. City guards are also really powerful to low-level players.

Skooma is in the game. The player randomly stumbles upon a Skooma dealer in the middle of the road, and when he refused to buy the Skooma, the dealer tried to kill the player in order to stop the dealer from ratting him out. The player looted quite a bit of Moon Sugar and Skooma from that light scuffle.

Dragons are truly random. During the raid on the Thalmor embassy, the player was attacked by a random dragon in the outside courtyard of the embassy while fighting the Thalmor guards. The player died quite quickly, and the dragon didn't respawn when the player loaded an old save.

Some of this stuff may be wrong, as the stream did go down and lag a few times, and I was browsing other stuff during that time.
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Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
November 03 2011 23:39 GMT
#1562
On November 04 2011 01:57 Squeegy wrote:
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On November 03 2011 20:34 Acronysis wrote:
On November 03 2011 12:45 Kibibit wrote:
I always feel a little out of place when I generally say that even WITHOUT mods, Elder scrolls games are still extremely playable. Morrowind is so engaging that I continued to play it on the Xbox, where I first learned of the Elder Scrolls games, despite it's night constant crashing and tricks needed to keep the memory usage down (as it would lock up once you used more than a certain amount) Even Oblivion, the lesser of the two Elder scrolls games I've loved, is still pretty damn playable stock. There's no denying the value of OOO, but it always comes off to me as a little wierd when so many people shit on the game so hard vanilla. In fact, a lot of mods break immersion for me so hard that I generally duck a good amount.


I love the TES games just as they are. I'll admit that i've never played with mods (never really had the option), so maybe i'm missing out on a Huge amount of enjoyment, but all I know is that even right now, even playing the console version, that besides Blizzard games, TES is definitely my favorite. Maybe it's just because the appeal to the game fits me exactly, but I just think that they're is so much to love and appreciate and do despite its flaws that it is easy for me to enjoy. Still haven't played another RPG that can quite live up to it in my experience, and that's just the vanilla version!


I do wonder what other RPG games have you played.


Certainly not every single one out there, but I've tried some of the other ones the general public love like Mass Effect and Dragon Age and a few others, and they just didn't do it for me. Like I said, TES just fits my tastes perfectly, both content wise and play style. Just my personal preference.
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 23:42:36
November 03 2011 23:42 GMT
#1563
On November 03 2011 19:30 gameguard wrote:
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On November 03 2011 16:32 Goldfish wrote:
On November 03 2011 16:05 dcemuser wrote:
On November 03 2011 15:21 Jindo wrote:
On November 03 2011 14:54 Xanbatou wrote:
Oblivion was not a great game IMO. I would say it's a good game, and nothing more. I say this because of two huge problems:

1. Generic dungeons: All of the non-quest related dungeons were completely generic. All loot was random, and there was nothing remarkable about any of them. This contrasts heavily with Morrowind. I still remember that cave near Seyda Need with that Wizard Ring. I also remember some cave with a vampire in it that has a sweet unique bow.

2. Level-scaling of enemies: It's retarded to have bandits wearing daedric armor. On top of that, you never get the feeling that you are getting stronger. Why the hell can you save the day when all the guards are ALWAYS stronger than you?

Those two things ruined oblivion for me. Sure, the quests were fun, but exploring was not rewarding at all.


Don't forget the retarded UI, the tiresome leveling system, the non-necessary removal of skills, encyclopedia dialogue, terrible(and identical) voice acting, horrible animation, and streamlined gameplay.


To be fair, most of those are criticisms of Morrowind as well.

Most of the Oblivion criticisms are the streamlined gameplay to appeal to a larger subscriber base (which worked wonderfully if you look at sales). Adding a quest log, simplifying skills, fast travel (tbh I never understood the quest log or fast travel qq... just don't use it...), etc sucks for a hardcore player who wants things to be complicated, but it turns off so many casual players that it is almost NEVER worth the money loss.

There's so much "QQ nobody makes games like they used to" criticism everywhere... it just isn't half as profitable.

Agreed. There's dumbing game down like removing features (For example one of the reasons Diablo III doesn't have weapon switch was because apparently they found people accidentally switched weapons and said people were confused about what happened [what happened to their weapon]. In short they removed it.) but I don't think those things (fast travel, quest log, etc) dumb down the game.

It makes it easier sure but doesn't really remove elements of the game (and like you said people don't have to use it if they don't want to. There is actually a mod to disable fast travel).

One of the reasons why The Last Remnant got mixed reviews (on the PC version, not 360 which were due to performance issues) is because how well unusual the game is.

Why TLR got mixed reviews (PC version):

1. Complicated leveling system. It's a min max type of leveling system.

2. So many missable stuff in the game it isn't funny. If only there was a quest log or compass that tells you where to obtain such and such quest or if only the game told you the quest was missable!

3. Confusing battle system. You also can't change character classes (they're automatic and forced based on your play style. Another aspect of "min maxing". Don't play this way and you'll get to keep the class).

Game isn't really hard but they really made everything complicated for no reason IMO (doesn't really add to the challenge).

The producer is Akitoshi Kawazu and "He is best known for making his games intensely challenging". I can't say TLR was challenging but more like "you need a walkthrough to do everything".

As the sales have shown, they needed to streamline the game and remove those "hardcore" elements ("hardcore" in TLR's case being you had to use a walkthrough or else the game would suck).

So yeah streamlining isn't a bad idea as long as it doesn't really dumb down the game. Will improve reception and sales if done right.


Dude the last remnant was epic. I never got around to finishing it like most RPGs these days... but it was great. Compass for quests and missible stuff? REally? Comon man, people dont need every little shit pointed out to them.

Go here, then talk to this guy with the flashing (!), then follow the arrow and go there, kill some mobs. Talk to this guy with the flashing (?). Bleh.


A bit off topic but I enjoyed TLR too but if you read the user reviews at gamespot or read the forums on Steam, people complained of those things.

Also there are lots of missable quests. Some players may not know that and just go on with the story before doing the quests.

Finally one major example is the Duke of Gnor(sp?) quest - You need to talk to him every other base when you do the "Bases" part of the game (most won't even know to check there). if you don't, you miss out on the quest and miss recruiting him.
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ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 03 2011 23:49 GMT
#1564
On November 04 2011 05:04 ZaaaaaM wrote:
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On November 04 2011 05:03 ShadowDrgn wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:26 Eschaton wrote:
Other mods that deal with things like level scaling and content are great too and make it basically a completely different game, but the core of what I think mods bring to TES games on PC is absolutely necessary in order to not feel like you're playing a shitty port of a console game.


I completely agree. I almost want to wait a few months for Skyrim until modders have made a usable PC interface for the game. Every video I've seen of the game's menu system has made me cringe.

As far as I know there is no menu footage for the pc? And yes, the pc has a different menu system.


That's reassuring then. I just assumed Skyrim would have the same interface for console and PC since Oblivion did.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
TuckFexas
Profile Joined July 2011
United States154 Posts
November 03 2011 23:51 GMT
#1565
N3rV[Green]:

i love you.

that is all.
Texas is to f*cking hot.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 04 2011 00:41 GMT
#1566
I'd watch the gameplay of that but I don't want the story spoilers....guess I'll wait longer.

Also the game is fine without mods, and on console. It's just not as good. The "consoles are gay" whining is starting to get hella annoying.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 00:57:34
November 04 2011 00:48 GMT
#1567
On November 04 2011 09:41 DystopiaX wrote:
I'd watch the gameplay of that but I don't want the story spoilers....guess I'll wait longer.

Also the game is fine without mods, and on console. It's just not as good. The "consoles are gay" whining is starting to get hella annoying.



I love my consoles, I have a Wii and 360, and Im a 360 fanboy you could even say, but still I would still never play this particular title on it. If people don't have a good gaming pc, or truly don't care about the mods they are missing out on, then by all means get it on console. However, I know almost everyone that touched mods in Oblivion fell in love with the game, check out some of these videos of modded content.. FCOM
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, and then this gem which I will someday get around to playing looks freaking great(english subs available not sure about voice acting, it's an entire world and has been mentioned in this thread several times)+ Show Spoiler +
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Also imagine full customization of your experience and literally infinite amounts of more content, I am way more looking forward to user made content than I am actual Skyirm, even though vanilla Skyrim is looking to be freaking awesome and well worth playing.



Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 01:02:29
November 04 2011 00:57 GMT
#1568
I'm listening to the Skyrim theme constantly on loop.

I honestly can't wait for 11/11/11 any longer. The last time I was this excited about a game release was probably back when SC2 was released.

Btw, the guards in this game are kinda lazy. One of the streamers I watched was technically wanted by the guards, but one of the dialogue options made the guard go "meh whatever; you're another guard's problem now" or something like that and the guard just walked away like the lazy bum he is XD

Then again, the streamer had a pretty good reputation in that city, so that may have been a factor.
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Merkd
Profile Joined May 2011
88 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 01:37:12
November 04 2011 01:33 GMT
#1569
On steam at the moment it says skyrim will be available on the 10th of November :O, im guess its just cause of the region im in.
They fill you with false hopes, they speak visions from their own minds.
Demonhunter04
Profile Joined July 2011
1530 Posts
November 04 2011 01:39 GMT
#1570
I just got Oblivion recently, first time playing an Elder Scrolls game, and its pretty awesome. It has its obvious flaws, but Bethesda seems to have learned from their mistakes very well, Skyrim looks to be far better.

On November 04 2011 10:33 Merkd wrote:
On steam at the moment it says skyrim will be available on the 10th of November :O


Steam allows people to purchase games in advance because you need to download them. The game itself will be encrypted and locked until the minute of release. Only problem is, the decryption process uses the Steam servers. When the Orange Box came out in 2007, it took me 40 minutes just to decrypt HL2 EP2 because of all the traffic.
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Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
November 04 2011 01:59 GMT
#1571
On November 04 2011 09:41 DystopiaX wrote:
I'd watch the gameplay of that but I don't want the story spoilers....guess I'll wait longer.

Also the game is fine without mods, and on console. It's just not as good. The "consoles are gay" whining is starting to get hella annoying.


"Consoles are gay" whining? Are we even reading the same forum? Also, way to throw out opinions as facts with absolutely nothing to back up your statement.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 04 2011 02:15 GMT
#1572
THE GAME PLAY IS MIND BLOWING :O
Life's good :D
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
November 04 2011 02:34 GMT
#1573
I was just thinking . . .

it's a shame that there is at least three awesome Sc2 tournaments coming up this november/december, and of course Skyrim on the 11th. Now, I'm gonna have to make a huge choice between my two loves. . . . i dont know though, skyrim might just pull me away XD

Am i the only one with this complication?
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Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
November 04 2011 02:38 GMT
#1574
anyone getting this on console who plans on actually enjoying the game thoroughly when it's an option for them to play it on PC is doing themselves an immense disservice. there are very few games that end up developing so incredibly as TES games via mods, and not only will you 90% likely end up with a bugged game that will never be fully patched on console (the case with both oblivion and morrowind, both games needed multiple unofficial mod patches) but you'll be missing out on an indescribably large amount of completely free content that makes stuff like DLC look like a complete joke.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
November 04 2011 02:44 GMT
#1575
I don't want to be spoilered, and yet I keep coming back to read this thread WHYYYYY
It's not like anything non-spoiler going to be worth a look within the next week here :/
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gunman103
Profile Joined February 2011
United States84 Posts
November 04 2011 02:50 GMT
#1576
Skyrim will probably be one of the most massive games of all time. I heard the guide is around 650 pages long. Can't wait till next friday.
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4336 Posts
November 04 2011 02:57 GMT
#1577
Is it true this game is already available on a torrent?
So wait? I'm bad? =(
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 04 2011 02:59 GMT
#1578
On November 04 2011 11:57 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Is it true this game is already available on a torrent?

The Xbox version is leaked apparently, but I doubt any PC version torrents are legit.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
November 04 2011 02:59 GMT
#1579
On November 04 2011 11:57 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Is it true this game is already available on a torrent?

probably. there are streams popping up everywhere
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
November 04 2011 03:03 GMT
#1580
Very much so. The 360 version has been leaked and people are playing like mad. A page or two ago I threw down a link for 3 hours of gameplay If you skip into about an hour or so in and only watch till he starts fucking around with the companions you won't see any kind of spoilers, just nonchoppy shitty wandering around and killing shit.

After watching that I feel like just screwing around in Oblivion (just installed the OOO mod due to so much recommendation from this thread xD) should hold me over till the epicness that Friday will be.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
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