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RaLakedaimon
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
In the end, I sided with the Imperials, after a lot of thinking. Why? + Show Spoiler + Because my character is from Cyrodiil. Yeah, great reasoning, I know. But that's how divisive this issue of Nordic freedom can be, that I have to make my choice on such shaky terms. | ||
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Deleted User 135096
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On January 09 2012 12:11 Aeres wrote: I had a really difficult time choosing between the Imperials and Stormcloaks. I try to become my character in games like these, acting the way my character would, given his morality and personal attachment to a given issue. I didn't feel that my character had any real tie to the issue, though, and I (the player) didn't know enough about the history of the province of Skyrim and the Nords' encounters with the Empire for me (the character) to attach myself to either side. I saw plenty of faults with the mentalities of both factions, but also plenty of merits as well. It's definitely not a "right or wrong" issue, which is awesome in a game that permits both good and evil, since you can't say, "Well, my character is evil, so I'm sticking with the bad guys". At the same time, though, it makes these choices frustrating for me. In the end, I sided with the Imperials, after a lot of thinking. Why? + Show Spoiler + Because my character is from Cyrodiil. Yeah, great reasoning, I know. But that's how divisive this issue of Nordic freedom can be, that I have to make my choice on such shaky terms. I eventually landed there as well, but it didn't have to do with my being an imperial. + Show Spoiler + The way I saw it, the Aldmeri Dominion was the biggest problem in Tamriel. It took a while to see their general operational procedure and the like, but after the mission to infiltrate the embassy I made an immediate swing towards siding with the empire. Finding those dossiers proved to be a strong motivator in making that decision, and played well into my characters motivations. I am curious about how that would look when siding with the stormcloaks, and if Ulfric had anything to say about being a 'sleeper agent' for the Thalmor. | ||
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
werewolf edit-Oh no! I read above spoilers on that last post and didn't know my brother Ulfric would be buddies with them. TT Oh well, good friends gotta let some things slide I guess. Death to the empire! | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On January 09 2012 12:59 wo1fwood wrote: I eventually landed there as well, but it didn't have to do with my being an imperial. + Show Spoiler + The way I saw it, the Aldmeri Dominion was the biggest problem in Tamriel. It took a while to see their general operational procedure and the like, but after the mission to infiltrate the embassy I made an immediate swing towards siding with the empire. Finding those dossiers proved to be a strong motivator in making that decision, and played well into my characters motivations. I am curious about how that would look when siding with the stormcloaks, and if Ulfric had anything to say about being a 'sleeper agent' for the Thalmor. <---Argonian here. Wasn't even a shread of doubt in my mind once I saw how Ulfric was running Windehlm | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On January 09 2012 13:12 1Eris1 wrote: <---Argonian here. Wasn't even a shread of doubt in my mind once I saw how Ulfric was running Windehlm Argonian as well, welcome brother :3! Thalmor was the only thing delaying my choice. | ||
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Mordanis
United States893 Posts
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On January 09 2012 13:55 Nightmarjoo wrote: Yeah I agree with the pro-Imperialism. I don't see anything that would make me side with the Stormcloaks. They're racist assholes who would bring their whole country down. Don't feel too strongly for the Imperial faction within the game itself though; can't say I like how liberally they use the chopping block. Additionally Tullius seems like an asshole noob, and I don't like the Jarl of Solitude much either. Everyone in Skyrim seems pretty unlikeable actually ._> Pretty much. Majority of characters in Skyrim are pretty unmemorable...Quite lacking compare to Morrowind. Most memorable character in TES universe is Sheogorath, hands down. From a rational point of view, if you are striving for the "common good and the greater picture", there is no sense in picking the Stormcloaks. Empire keeps peace, enable cross-provincial tradings, maintain peace keeping garrison, reduce racism, and keeps the small folks happy. For the most parts throughout history, the Empire has done far more good for Tameril than the bad. Ulfric is basically pushing for the second Hammerfell, where the entire province is burnt to a wasteland in strive for independence. Not to mention those damn High Elves are all racist assholes. Even the non-Thalmor High Elves are all assholes. Ulfric is indirectly helping the Thalmors by weakening the Empire. By the way, not sure if the general populace of players are aware of it, but the Empire is in deep shit up all the way to the knee. Morrowind is essentially destroyed. Hammerfell is a bloody wasteland. The High Elves have Summerset Isles, Valenwood and Elsweyr. The Empire is in control of only High Rock, Cyrodiil and Black Marsh. Geographically, the High Rock (bordered by the hostile Hammerfell and the hostile Skyrim) can not reinforce the Empire if Skyrim goes independent. The way I see it, if Skyrim falls to Ulfric, the Empire is fucked, and the High Elves wins. Yea, I'm pretty into the lore. Btw, I am with the Thalmors in thinking Tiber Septim isn't one of the Divines. He is a dead human being worshipped by humans. He was neither Aedra (the Eight Divines), nor Daedra (the 16 Daedric Princes). The entire rebellion over banning of Talos is nonsense. The worship of Tiber Septim was not banned. The Empire banned the worshiping of Tiber Septim as the Nineth Divine. | ||
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RaLakedaimon
United States1564 Posts
Can someone tell me exactly where, how, when the dragon-born got caught and was crossing a border, why this was a bad thing to do, etc? I never got that, I mean I know TES (at least Morrowind and Oblivion) usually starts you out as a criminal type person but crossing a border and being in accidental vicinity to rebels doesn't seem like a good enough reason to have ones head lopped off. | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
@RaLakedaimon, they rounded you up because the Stormcloaks were in the area - from what I recall they just seemed to assume you were a Stormcloak scout. The Stormcloak guys were like 'lol our bad" and the Imperial guys were like "Meh if you're stormcloak, great! If not, we'll just tell anyone who asks about you that you were a Stormcloak." I think they were more wrapped up in executing Ulfric than worrying about one or two wrong casualties. Another thing I was talking to some friends about was the way different races greet their own races. Like for example, my friend is playing a Dunmer and she went into the Gray District and she was all upset that the Dunmer were all assholes to her, haha. I rolled Wood Elf and every time I find another Wood Elf in Skyrim they're like "HEEYYYY BROTHER!!! <3<3<3" Glad that they took the time to do little things like that, makes me happy :p | ||
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Shaman.us
United States319 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6174 Posts
On January 09 2012 04:50 RaLakedaimon wrote: That guys the only reason I don't go around the Companions place anymore. XD dude, to go see the companion, you just need to fast travel to dragonreach and then jump over the river to your left and you arrive directly in the companion house :O | ||
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On January 09 2012 23:50 Shaman.us wrote: I just decided to help the Stormcloaks because it's cooler to be a hero to the rebellion than it is to be another dude with a sword just doing his civic duty. Sounds like a rebel without a cause to me! Also wtf just shoot the guy and pay the guard like 100 gold, problem solved. All you moral sissies in Skyrim, goodness!  | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
On January 09 2012 14:00 Torte de Lini wrote: Argonian as well, welcome brother :3! Thalmor was the only thing delaying my choice. My 1st char: Nord Warrior => Side with Imperials My 2nd char: High Elf Mage => Side with Stormcloaks ...yeah, makes perfect sense I know >.< | ||
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Ushio
Canada868 Posts
On January 09 2012 23:50 Shaman.us wrote: I just decided to help the Stormcloaks because it's cooler to be a hero to the rebellion than it is to be another dude with a sword just doing his civic duty. Stories, put aside, the missions they give you are exactly the same, quite disappointing actually | ||
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On January 08 2012 05:53 dukethegold wrote: Me: "I am the champion of Cyrodiil, Arch-Mage of the Guild, Master of the Fighters, Grand champion of the Arena, greatest amongst the Blades, friend to the late Emperor, and the Mad God." Guard: "Greetings, Citizen!" Mad God? I don't remember that from Oblivion. On January 08 2012 08:40 Destructicon wrote: Actually, a friend of mine finished the game on the highest difficulty as a mage. He relied a lot on conjuration to tank the damage for him while he phew phewed from a distance. Yes it is a lot more slow and fragile at the begining, but it works very well towards the end. Unfortunately the best gear in game for mages seems to be bought from shops, as those can get up to 150% magika regen with 25% destruction/alteration/conjuration etc, while enchanted stuff, even with a 35% enchanting pot, will only go to 84% magika regen and 29% destruction. Personally I'm having a ton of fun with dual wielding. While a 2h can probably deal more damage flat then two weapons combined, the added attack speed and 2x double enchants more than makes up for that. What about the Archmage's Robes? Those are probably a bit better, since an additional 50% bonus magicka regen isn't quite as good as it sounds. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Demonhunter04
1530 Posts
On January 09 2012 01:48 HellRoxYa wrote: Walking around with an unstable piece of time and space seems a lot more badass to me though. And, as an added bonus, you can keep reading it and blinding yourself repeatedly! On January 09 2012 05:37 R!! wrote: I think that what triggers this is the candlelight magic. Conjured sword triggered it for me. On January 09 2012 12:59 wo1fwood wrote: I eventually landed there as well, but it didn't have to do with my being an imperial. + Show Spoiler + The way I saw it, the Aldmeri Dominion was the biggest problem in Tamriel. It took a while to see their general operational procedure and the like, but after the mission to infiltrate the embassy I made an immediate swing towards siding with the empire. Finding those dossiers proved to be a strong motivator in making that decision, and played well into my characters motivations. I am curious about how that would look when siding with the stormcloaks, and if Ulfric had anything to say about being a 'sleeper agent' for the Thalmor. You can go and ask Ulfric even if you've sided with the Empire. Unfortunately, he has no idea that the Thalmor regard him that way. + Show Spoiler + On January 09 2012 14:03 dukethegold wrote: Pretty much. Majority of characters in Skyrim are pretty unmemorable...Quite lacking compare to Morrowind. Most memorable character in TES universe is Sheogorath, hands down. From a rational point of view, if you are striving for the "common good and the greater picture", there is no sense in picking the Stormcloaks. Empire keeps peace, enable cross-provincial tradings, maintain peace keeping garrison, reduce racism, and keeps the small folks happy. For the most parts throughout history, the Empire has done far more good for Tameril than the bad. Ulfric is basically pushing for the second Hammerfell, where the entire province is burnt to a wasteland in strive for independence. Not to mention those damn High Elves are all racist assholes. Even the non-Thalmor High Elves are all assholes. Ulfric is indirectly helping the Thalmors by weakening the Empire. By the way, not sure if the general populace of players are aware of it, but the Empire is in deep shit up all the way to the knee. Morrowind is essentially destroyed. Hammerfell is a bloody wasteland. The High Elves have Summerset Isles, Valenwood and Elsweyr. The Empire is in control of only High Rock, Cyrodiil and Black Marsh. Geographically, the High Rock (bordered by the hostile Hammerfell and the hostile Skyrim) can not reinforce the Empire if Skyrim goes independent. The way I see it, if Skyrim falls to Ulfric, the Empire is fucked, and the High Elves wins. Yea, I'm pretty into the lore. Btw, I am with the Thalmors in thinking Tiber Septim isn't one of the Divines. He is a dead human being worshipped by humans. He was neither Aedra (the Eight Divines), nor Daedra (the 16 Daedric Princes). The entire rebellion over banning of Talos is nonsense. The worship of Tiber Septim was not banned. The Empire banned the worshiping of Tiber Septim as the Nineth Divine. Good to know, I had no idea that the Dominion controlled Valenwood and Elsewyr. Btw, my character is a high elf since no other race is of compare when it comes to mage characters, and the Thalmor are assholes to me too -_-. | ||
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