• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 13:13
CEST 19:13
KST 02:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call0[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion [ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call Replay Review Process - What do you do? Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History
Tourneys
Toronto invitational lan 22 august Brood War in Budapest ! WORTEX 2026 BW Finals [ASL22] Ro24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 4691 users

Elder Scrolls V - Skyrim - Page 474

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 472 473 474 475 476 586 Next
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 02:56:38
December 13 2011 02:54 GMT
#9461
^^ Don't attempt using higher level spells until you can afford the cost reduction perk for them. Despite pumping nothing but mana until I had 500 on my mage, you can't actually build a large enough pool for all fights and L3 spells WITH the perk would still blow through my mana pool (and my epic 300% mana regen from racial, perks, gear doesn't mean anything in combat). The only way to increase spell damage is through perks which include the three in destro and the other comedy three in illusion that increase destro damage for some reason (I forget all the names but go up the illusion path to "rage" and you got them all). Mage scales fine if you get the illusion perks, they're actually better than the damage perks in destro.

Lategame, you just enchant all your shit so destro spells are free, I wouldn't bother getting expert or master level cost reduction perks. If you find yourself with no skill in illusion (such a crap tree) you can just spam muffle to level.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 04:42:02
December 13 2011 04:40 GMT
#9462
On December 13 2011 11:54 Offhand wrote:
^^ Don't attempt using higher level spells until you can afford the cost reduction perk for them. Despite pumping nothing but mana until I had 500 on my mage, you can't actually build a large enough pool for all fights and L3 spells WITH the perk would still blow through my mana pool (and my epic 300% mana regen from racial, perks, gear doesn't mean anything in combat). The only way to increase spell damage is through perks which include the three in destro and the other comedy three in illusion that increase destro damage for some reason (I forget all the names but go up the illusion path to "rage" and you got them all). Mage scales fine if you get the illusion perks, they're actually better than the damage perks in destro.

Lategame, you just enchant all your shit so destro spells are free, I wouldn't bother getting expert or master level cost reduction perks. If you find yourself with no skill in illusion (such a crap tree) you can just spam muffle to level.


That mana regen part is so wrong, you are keeping your hands "charged" with spells constantly if you don't see any regen with 300%. Stagger something, wait, stagger it with a quick cast after it cleared 1st stagger. Don't charge your hands for a new double bolt before the enemy is up and running again or you indeed see no mana regen.

With that much regen you should be able to stagger non bear (they revive fast from stagger) forever without running oom if you are using firebolt/lightningbolt/ice spike

Expert lvl spells will be heavier on the mana ofc, but you can still do the same. Just don't keep a spell charged up while you're just waiting and you'll see regen.

Illusion is also a far more effective tree at killing stuff high lvl when it's more than 1 mob in the area, when you can frenzy op mobs to fight each other (including undead, dwemer bots and daedra if you get perk)
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 13 2011 04:44 GMT
#9463
On December 13 2011 11:54 Offhand wrote:
If you find yourself with no skill in illusion (such a crap tree) you can just spam muffle to level.


r u 4 rela?

User was warned for this post
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
December 13 2011 08:33 GMT
#9464
Omfg the Dark Brotherhood quest line is by far the best. And of all the characters I've played, dual-wield + archer assassin is by far the most enjoyable (and is easiest in some respects, hardest in others). All I gotta say is, Kyne's peace and/or Command Animal is so useful early on prevent insta-death from bears.

And to the guy who enjoyed Blackreach, I actually enjoyed the Dwarven Ruins in Markarth a lot more, though maybe because that was my first dwarven ruin. That one is also extremely huge because of how many levels there are in it, took me a full day to explore.

Ah, I think I'm finally done with Skyrim 167 hours!
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
December 13 2011 08:43 GMT
#9465
On December 13 2011 08:18 Xeris wrote:
I dunno, I grinded out smithing early, level'd up a bunch. I'm lvl 40 now and I've maxed smithing (100) and 1-handed weapons (100). my light / heavy armor / enchanting / destruction are all around lvl 65 .

My question is: it seems like my spells do NO damage to anything above first level mobs. I.E. I can kill a skeleton in 1 hit with any of my spells, but when I fight something like a Restless Draugr, it takes like 2 bars of my mana to kill it if I'm just using spells.

How can I make them do more damage ?? O_O!

Also, do enchantments improve if you level your enchanting ability? I've held off enchanting my items because I don't wanna enchant something at like 10% magicka regen how it is now (will it go up when I lvl my enchanting)?


At lvl 75 destruction, you get new nuke spells that do 60 dmg (+50%) x2.2 if dualcasted (so potentially 198 dmg). They cost a ton though, especially when you dual cast them.

You will probably want to enchant headgear, armor, rings and amulet to decrease destruction mana cost. Enchanting levels with use like every other skill. Make a habit of always using Soul Trap and do "the black star quest" asap. Ask an innkeeper and he will tell you about "Shrine of Azura" west of winterhold.

Good luck.
Turbogangsta
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia319 Posts
December 13 2011 11:25 GMT
#9466
i love the under ground dwarf (dewmer?) art work its very well done. half the time i play this im just enjoying the art
Esports is killing Esports.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 13:30:24
December 13 2011 13:29 GMT
#9467
--- Nuked ---
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
December 13 2011 13:42 GMT
#9468
The final storyline for slaying Alduin is very...lackluster thankfully after you're done you get this sense of THE WORLD IS NOW MINE BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAAAAA. Seriously after I was done I just felt this freedom to do anything I wanted with no sense of responsibility since I had just saved the world.
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
December 13 2011 15:56 GMT
#9469
On December 13 2011 22:42 Monokeros wrote:
The final storyline for slaying Alduin is very...lackluster thankfully after you're done you get this sense of THE WORLD IS NOW MINE BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAAAAA. Seriously after I was done I just felt this freedom to do anything I wanted with no sense of responsibility since I had just saved the world.

"Instead of a dark lord there will be a dark queen.."
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 13 2011 17:39 GMT
#9470
I'm level 54, it's impossible to level up anymore rapidly ): I need like, 7 to 10 more perks for the enchanting tree.
I also need more mana, the illusion spells are incredibly expensive. I have 250 right now and all the perks up to expert and they still drain so much D: qq
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 17:48:28
December 13 2011 17:47 GMT
#9471
On December 14 2011 02:39 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm level 54, it's impossible to level up anymore rapidly ): I need like, 7 to 10 more perks for the enchanting tree.
I also need more mana, the illusion spells are incredibly expensive. I have 250 right now and all the perks up to expert and they still drain so much D: qq


step into water and cast waterbreathing -> levels alteration
cast soul trap on a corpse -> levels conjuration
cast muffle -> levels illusion
get azura black star and a soul trap weapon and just go around kill bandits, when you recharge weapons you level enchanting too.

based on the amount of mana you have I think that you are no mage so maybe try these ways I listed above to get some levels
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
December 13 2011 17:50 GMT
#9472
On December 14 2011 02:47 Skilledblob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:39 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm level 54, it's impossible to level up anymore rapidly ): I need like, 7 to 10 more perks for the enchanting tree.
I also need more mana, the illusion spells are incredibly expensive. I have 250 right now and all the perks up to expert and they still drain so much D: qq


step into water and cast waterbreathing -> levels alteration
cast soul trap on a corpse -> levels conjuration
cast muffle -> levels illusion
get azura black star and a soul trap weapon and just go around kill bandits, when you recharge weapons you level enchanting too.

based on the amount of mana you have I think that you are no mage so maybe try these ways I listed above to get some levels


Alteration : Detect Life in Riften with 100% reduction = max in 5-10 minutes.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 13 2011 17:51 GMT
#9473
On December 13 2011 13:44 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 11:54 Offhand wrote:
If you find yourself with no skill in illusion (such a crap tree) you can just spam muffle to level.


r u 4 rela?

Yes, you don't even have to be in combat to do it
In fact, there is a misc quest in the college of winterhold where you gotta fine tune three magic sources with a special pair of gloves, and the quest reward gives you like 10000% magicka regen rate for an hour, so I just walked around like normal, dual casting muffle every step on the way. Took me from 65 to 100 in Illusion, and still had about 30 minutes left on the buff, despite the fact that I was actually questing/clearing a dungeon while I was doing this and only casting muffle when I was out of combat. So yeah... it's a bit silly
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 13 2011 17:51 GMT
#9474
I'm Argonian, I can't do waterbreathing for Alteration


I got Azura Star, but I dont think its black
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 17:54:46
December 13 2011 17:52 GMT
#9475
On December 14 2011 02:50 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:47 Skilledblob wrote:
On December 14 2011 02:39 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm level 54, it's impossible to level up anymore rapidly ): I need like, 7 to 10 more perks for the enchanting tree.
I also need more mana, the illusion spells are incredibly expensive. I have 250 right now and all the perks up to expert and they still drain so much D: qq


step into water and cast waterbreathing -> levels alteration
cast soul trap on a corpse -> levels conjuration
cast muffle -> levels illusion
get azura black star and a soul trap weapon and just go around kill bandits, when you recharge weapons you level enchanting too.

based on the amount of mana you have I think that you are no mage so maybe try these ways I listed above to get some levels


Alteration : Detect Life in Riften with 100% reduction = max in 5-10 minutes.

Also, casting dual wield Bound Sword will make you level up in Conjuration every time you enter combat, pretty much all the way up to 100 -.-


On December 14 2011 02:51 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm Argonian, I can't do waterbreathing for Alteration


I got Azura Star, but I dont think its black

Detect Life @ Riften Marketplace for Alteration instead of Water Breathing, and go Bound Weapons instead of Soul Trap then. (Or just use Azura's Star instead of The Black Star by casting Soul Trap on dead animals instead of humans)
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
December 13 2011 18:01 GMT
#9476
On December 14 2011 02:50 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:47 Skilledblob wrote:
On December 14 2011 02:39 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm level 54, it's impossible to level up anymore rapidly ): I need like, 7 to 10 more perks for the enchanting tree.
I also need more mana, the illusion spells are incredibly expensive. I have 250 right now and all the perks up to expert and they still drain so much D: qq


step into water and cast waterbreathing -> levels alteration
cast soul trap on a corpse -> levels conjuration
cast muffle -> levels illusion
get azura black star and a soul trap weapon and just go around kill bandits, when you recharge weapons you level enchanting too.

based on the amount of mana you have I think that you are no mage so maybe try these ways I listed above to get some levels


Alteration : Detect Life in Riften with 100% reduction = max in 5-10 minutes.


well I dont have 100% cost reduction
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
December 13 2011 18:09 GMT
#9477
On December 14 2011 02:51 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 13:44 Mindcrime wrote:
On December 13 2011 11:54 Offhand wrote:
If you find yourself with no skill in illusion (such a crap tree) you can just spam muffle to level.


r u 4 rela?

Yes, you don't even have to be in combat to do it
In fact, there is a misc quest in the college of winterhold where you gotta fine tune three magic sources with a special pair of gloves, and the quest reward gives you like 10000% magicka regen rate for an hour, so I just walked around like normal, dual casting muffle every step on the way. Took me from 65 to 100 in Illusion, and still had about 30 minutes left on the buff, despite the fact that I was actually questing/clearing a dungeon while I was doing this and only casting muffle when I was out of combat. So yeah... it's a bit silly


notice what I bolded :|
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Kon-Tiki
Profile Joined February 2011
United States402 Posts
December 13 2011 18:24 GMT
#9478
On December 13 2011 11:34 Jaxx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 10:09 mordk wrote:


LOL Totally EPIC hahahaha

Hahahaha hilarious, don't watch this when you can't laugh, I almost exploded :D

I watched this over and over like 20 times in a row and it didn't get old
I am a leaf on the wind. Watch how I soar.
Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
December 13 2011 18:52 GMT
#9479
On December 14 2011 02:51 Torte de Lini wrote:
I'm Argonian, I can't do waterbreathing for Alteration


I got Azura Star, but I dont think its black


You can actually, I used it to level up my Argonian mage until I could buy Detect Life.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 13 2011 18:54 GMT
#9480
On December 14 2011 03:09 Mindcrime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:51 HaXXspetten wrote:
On December 13 2011 13:44 Mindcrime wrote:
On December 13 2011 11:54 Offhand wrote:
If you find yourself with no skill in illusion (such a crap tree) you can just spam muffle to level.


r u 4 rela?

Yes, you don't even have to be in combat to do it
In fact, there is a misc quest in the college of winterhold where you gotta fine tune three magic sources with a special pair of gloves, and the quest reward gives you like 10000% magicka regen rate for an hour, so I just walked around like normal, dual casting muffle every step on the way. Took me from 65 to 100 in Illusion, and still had about 30 minutes left on the buff, despite the fact that I was actually questing/clearing a dungeon while I was doing this and only casting muffle when I was out of combat. So yeah... it's a bit silly


notice what I bolded :|

touché, soz
Prev 1 472 473 474 475 476 586 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
16:00
King of the Hill #260
EmpressLilyy40
Liquipedia
PiG Sty Festival
12:00
PiGFest Finals Day
Serral vs SolarLIVE!
PiGStarcraft2124
IntoTheiNu 1054
ComeBackTV 769
TaKeTV 505
IndyStarCraft 284
Rex117
3DClanTV 94
EnkiAlexander 69
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft2124
IndyStarCraft 284
Rex 117
BRAT_OK 43
EmSc Tv 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 739
Mini 615
actioN 449
Soulkey 269
firebathero 169
sorry 80
Zeus 80
Hm[arnc] 53
Shine 47
Sharp 44
[ Show more ]
Bale 31
Rock 24
IntoTheRainbow 15
SilentControl 14
Dota 2
qojqva4666
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss936
byalli449
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King166
Heroes of the Storm
MindelVK13
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1770
Grubby1531
FrodaN1171
KnowMe109
White-Ra98
Livibee63
Chillindude24
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1155
gamesdonequick533
StarCraft 2
EmSc Tv 4
EmSc2Tv 4
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 48
• Reevou 4
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2669
• Nemesis1993
Other Games
• imaqtpie322
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
16h 47m
hero vs ggaemo
Larva vs Mong
The Patches Monday
22h 47m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 16h
Soulkey vs PianO
JyJ vs sSak
GSL
1d 17h
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.