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WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
December 20 2010 15:27 GMT
#201
On December 18 2010 05:25 Boblion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 03:47 iamke55 wrote:
I don't understand how people can think non-Bethesda RPGs are good unless they haven't played Oblivion.

Usually it is the other way around.


exactly. oblivion isnt even an rpg compared to some legendary titles.
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Luhh
Profile Joined October 2003
Sweden2974 Posts
December 20 2010 21:09 GMT
#202
On December 21 2010 00:27 WiljushkA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2010 05:25 Boblion wrote:
On December 18 2010 03:47 iamke55 wrote:
I don't understand how people can think non-Bethesda RPGs are good unless they haven't played Oblivion.

Usually it is the other way around.


exactly. oblivion isnt even an rpg compared to some legendary titles.


Agreed.

Go to "the codex" and learn proper form and stance regarding Ahr-Pee-Gees iamke55. It's serious business.

While you'll level up and gain lots of wisdom, you'll be left feeling disillusioned and bitter like the elite.

The last time I raised an eyebrow in this genre was for Divine Divinity (which was rather meh, but had some nice things in it and great music - still tons better than Obliphan), and Risen - which somewhat resembled a proper "Gothic game". That's it for the Action genre since Gothic 1 and 2.

Dragon age was just.. somewhat retarded. Dragon age 2 looks to go full retard. The devs of Deus Ex seem to have hated the original game etc.

Oh, and don't get me started on what Bethuzzah did to the Fallout franchise.
I wouldn´t call him stupid, but let´s just say he´s unlucky when thinking...
Ordained
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
December 20 2010 21:32 GMT
#203
On December 12 2010 12:36 Squeegy wrote:
I don't know why I think this is quite exciting news. Oblivion was so bad and Fallout 3 wasn't much of an improvement. I guess there is always hope.

If you did not like Oblivion or Fall out 3 do not buy this game, it will not be different.

Skyrim will be slow paced high fantasy just like Oblivion. Save $60 if that is not your cup of tea.

I for one will be buying this first day, I loved oblivion and still play it occasionally.
"You are not trying to win, you are trying to be awesome" -Day[9]
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 21:38:54
December 20 2010 21:38 GMT
#204
Just rebooted Oblivion and Morrowind...my experience was interesting. While I remember Morrowind as being excellent in my mind, I can still remember half of the spoken dialogue lines, I just couldn't stand the graphics. I spent 2 hours on Morrowind and then proceeded to plough 32 hours into a new character build in Oblivion. I think, for me, it's clear where my allegiances lie...even though I understand the depth was best in Morrowind, I just love being absorbed in the beautiful world of Oblivion. Exploring the fields and the mountains is much more fun in Oblivion for me, because of the graphics...Gota say I completely dig both games though, in terms of freedom and atmosphere. So completely pumped for Skyrim, I just think these games are head and shoulders above the rest.
Coriolis
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1152 Posts
December 20 2010 21:54 GMT
#205
On December 21 2010 06:38 sc4k wrote:
Just rebooted Oblivion and Morrowind...my experience was interesting. While I remember Morrowind as being excellent in my mind, I can still remember half of the spoken dialogue lines, I just couldn't stand the graphics. I spent 2 hours on Morrowind and then proceeded to plough 32 hours into a new character build in Oblivion. I think, for me, it's clear where my allegiances lie...even though I understand the depth was best in Morrowind, I just love being absorbed in the beautiful world of Oblivion. Exploring the fields and the mountains is much more fun in Oblivion for me, because of the graphics...Gota say I completely dig both games though, in terms of freedom and atmosphere. So completely pumped for Skyrim, I just think these games are head and shoulders above the rest.


Download MGE (Morrowind Graphics Extender) because it makes morrowind look almost as good as oblivion.
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Casta
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark234 Posts
December 20 2010 22:16 GMT
#206
On December 21 2010 06:54 Fargoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 06:38 sc4k wrote:
Just rebooted Oblivion and Morrowind...my experience was interesting. While I remember Morrowind as being excellent in my mind, I can still remember half of the spoken dialogue lines, I just couldn't stand the graphics. I spent 2 hours on Morrowind and then proceeded to plough 32 hours into a new character build in Oblivion. I think, for me, it's clear where my allegiances lie...even though I understand the depth was best in Morrowind, I just love being absorbed in the beautiful world of Oblivion. Exploring the fields and the mountains is much more fun in Oblivion for me, because of the graphics...Gota say I completely dig both games though, in terms of freedom and atmosphere. So completely pumped for Skyrim, I just think these games are head and shoulders above the rest.


Download MGE (Morrowind Graphics Extender) because it makes morrowind look almost as good as oblivion.


Lol you actually named yourself after that pathetic wood elf from seyda neen

Anyway for me oblivion was a lot more restricted than morrowind, but morrowind had its downsides too, combat and especially spellcasting feels very akward when you have played oblivion.

I hope that bethesda has learned from all the feedback they got from oblivion and FO3 and is making skyrim a game where there is no level scaling, no hyper sensitive guards and better spells and enchanting just to name a few of the issues I had.

Take the best from oblivion and morrowind and you could potentially have the recipe for an epic game.

Looking forward to this!
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
December 21 2010 00:24 GMT
#207
I gotta say though, I thought the combat really is so horribly awkward in Morrowind. I mean, really, I think it's barely acceptable in Oblivion. Whilst I am all for deeper sides to games, it kind of 'hurts' to go back to Morrowind. I got used to it a long time ago, I mean I remember one afternoon just waltzing around the coast picking up clams and looking for pearls to sell lol...I will however put that graphics extender, thanks to that guy for recommending it...
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 00:53:09
December 21 2010 00:52 GMT
#208
On December 21 2010 06:09 Luhh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 00:27 WiljushkA wrote:
On December 18 2010 05:25 Boblion wrote:
On December 18 2010 03:47 iamke55 wrote:
I don't understand how people can think non-Bethesda RPGs are good unless they haven't played Oblivion.

Usually it is the other way around.


exactly. oblivion isnt even an rpg compared to some legendary titles.


Agreed.

Go to "the codex" and learn proper form and stance regarding Ahr-Pee-Gees iamke55. It's serious business.

While you'll level up and gain lots of wisdom, you'll be left feeling disillusioned and bitter like the elite.

The last time I raised an eyebrow in this genre was for Divine Divinity (which was rather meh, but had some nice things in it and great music - still tons better than Obliphan), and Risen - which somewhat resembled a proper "Gothic game". That's it for the Action genre since Gothic 1 and 2.

Dragon age was just.. somewhat retarded. Dragon age 2 looks to go full retard. The devs of Deus Ex seem to have hated the original game etc.

Oh, and don't get me started on what Bethuzzah did to the Fallout franchise.

I'll get you started, whats so bad with Fallout 3 and NV? I thought they were amazing games that don't have to many falts apart from the bugs. I continually see so many people posting comments like "oh my god fallout 3 so bad" when they give no reasoning. I've played all the fallouts and most of the elder scrolls and yes, obilvion and fallout 3 may not have been as good but in no way does it make them bad games :\
Just strikes me as odd
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BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
December 21 2010 13:55 GMT
#209
Oblivion was good after a few mods/overhauls, especially to change the atrocious leveling system. Hopefully they'll do a bit better with this one.
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WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
December 21 2010 14:07 GMT
#210
@scaramanga

New Vegas wasnt bad at all, but it wasnt made by bethesda either. fo3 was bad cause of bad story, atrocious writing and characters, stupid quests and silly worldbuilding. they messed up pretty much everything that has to do with rpgs, and they had bad combat to boot.
"As much as I love the image of me F5-ing paypal every 15 minutes while fist pumping and screaming "SHIP THE MONEY BITCHES"" - Day9
TymerA
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands759 Posts
December 21 2010 22:59 GMT
#211
Does anyone think some form of NV's Hardcore mode should/could be implemented? I know oblivion had mods for such things but it would be nice to see in vanilla. Food in oblivion was redundant , useless and only for decoration :/
nice.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-21 23:35:41
December 21 2010 23:18 GMT
#212
On December 21 2010 06:09 Luhh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2010 00:27 WiljushkA wrote:
On December 18 2010 05:25 Boblion wrote:
On December 18 2010 03:47 iamke55 wrote:
I don't understand how people can think non-Bethesda RPGs are good unless they haven't played Oblivion.

Usually it is the other way around.


exactly. oblivion isnt even an rpg compared to some legendary titles.


Agreed.

Go to "the codex" and learn proper form and stance regarding Ahr-Pee-Gees iamke55. It's serious business.

While you'll level up and gain lots of wisdom, you'll be left feeling disillusioned and bitter like the elite.

The last time I raised an eyebrow in this genre was for Divine Divinity (which was rather meh, but had some nice things in it and great music - still tons better than Obliphan), and Risen - which somewhat resembled a proper "Gothic game". That's it for the Action genre since Gothic 1 and 2.


Gothic 3 /w community patch 1.74 is good. Turn alternative balancing, and new AI (it is the difficulty menu), and even the combat is decent with those changes, no more infinite stun lock or clicking till you kill enemy you have to time your attacks, and defence.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 00:19:14
December 22 2010 00:14 GMT
#213
On December 21 2010 06:09 Luhh wrote:
Go to "the codex" and learn proper form and stance regarding Ahr-Pee-Gees iamke55. It's serious business.

The Codex is to CRPGs what TL would be to Starcraft if it had zero moderation.

They're right about a lot of things, but telling someone go visit The Codex is a good way to make them disagree with you, because their attitude is so antagonistic/trollish about it that they don't really get the idea across in a good way.

On December 21 2010 23:07 WiljushkA wrote:
@scaramanga

New Vegas wasnt bad at all, but it wasnt made by bethesda either. fo3 was bad cause of bad story, atrocious writing and characters, stupid quests and silly worldbuilding. they messed up pretty much everything that has to do with rpgs, and they had bad combat to boot.

You forgot to also mention that they totally butchered the SPECIAL system--giving you so many perks that they lost all meaning, reducing the effect of the overall stats spread (e.g. the difference in carrying capacity for 1 Strength and 10 Strength is 225 lbs in FO1/2, and only 90 lbs in FO3), adding skill point caps, and at the same time giving you more skill points than necessary--all in all making every character more same-y, and giving you the feeling that your character building decisions don't actually matter.
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rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
December 22 2010 00:40 GMT
#214
Morrowind bored me to tears as soon as I began the journey to the next city, and I presumed Oblivion to be the same. Will this be the same as well?
Accer
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)319 Posts
December 22 2010 00:54 GMT
#215
I really can't remember the last time i was this hyped for a single player game! I loved all the previous Elder Scrolls and am truly excited that this newest one is featuring the Nords (my favorite race) as the hero race this time... plus.... we FINALLY get to see the dragons.... ^_^
Squeegy
Profile Joined October 2009
Finland1166 Posts
December 23 2010 14:47 GMT
#216
On December 21 2010 06:32 Ordained wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2010 12:36 Squeegy wrote:
I don't know why I think this is quite exciting news. Oblivion was so bad and Fallout 3 wasn't much of an improvement. I guess there is always hope.

If you did not like Oblivion or Fall out 3 do not buy this game, it will not be different.

Skyrim will be slow paced high fantasy just like Oblivion. Save $60 if that is not your cup of tea.

I for one will be buying this first day, I loved oblivion and still play it occasionally.


Yeah, because I didn't like Oblivion because it is slow paced high fantasy? I didn't like it because it is a bad game.
Stan: Dude, dolphins are intelligent and friendly. Cartman: Intelligent and friendly on rye bread with some mayonnaise.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
December 23 2010 14:51 GMT
#217
I had a blast playing Oblivion, and I can't wait to see what they can do with Elder Scrolls V!
I'll probably download this on steam as soon as it's available.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 17:36:22
December 23 2010 17:34 GMT
#218
On December 22 2010 09:14 TheYango wrote:
The Codex is to CRPGs what TL would be to Starcraft if it had zero moderation.

They're right about a lot of things, but telling someone go visit The Codex is a good way to make them disagree with you, because their attitude is so antagonistic/trollish about it that they don't really get the idea across in a good way.


Just checked their forums, they are kinda funny retarded. Reminds me of the Sherdog forums if you are into boxing / MMA.
Nothing beat insomnia.ac when it comes down to rage and hate in video games though.
Kinda sad that they are the only guys worth reading even if 90% of the content are insults... sad times.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-23 17:44:21
December 23 2010 17:38 GMT
#219
Hopefully this game will have all the great gameplay elements from morrowind as well as the more immersive storyline, and the gorgeous graphics and landscapes of oblivion. It would easily be my GOTY for 2011 if it had those things. In my mind Fallout 3 was one of the biggest disappointments ever to come out of Bethesda.

My problem with Fallout 3 is the stupid combat (it aims for you? who ever thought that was a good idea?), the wierd dialogue, the lack of any immersion whatsoever (that constant feeling that "i'm playing a game... and it's not very good") and the enemies that level with you. At least in Oblivion they were replaced with stronger enemies instead of just becoming buff but i would like to see more variation in the types of enemies!
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WiljushkA
Profile Joined March 2006
Serbia1416 Posts
December 23 2010 17:41 GMT
#220
codex is epic, for every good thread there are 99 bad ones, but they're ALL hilarious to read. if you get the inside jokes.
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