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Kalpman
Sweden406 Posts
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RedMosquito
United States280 Posts
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JoFu
United States25 Posts
On December 16 2010 15:21 RedMosquito wrote: did i just hear someone say oblivion was terrible?? that was one of the best games i ever played. lost three years of my life to that game. Its quite simply the best RPG of all time and you're ignorant to say its terrible. Theres so much to do in that game *sits back and waits for the uproar* ...I thought Oblivion was pretty good. Was not too fond of the main quest line, though. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
The original ending was a let down, but a lot of the other side quests made up for it. I really loved the Dark Brotherhood quests. I was so drawn in at the time, and remember myself being "angered" by the death of my beloved friend Lucien Lachance. I avenged him with pride. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 15 2010 03:12 Drowsy wrote: Is it just me or has every game since Daggerfall had progressively less customization options? I remember Daggerfall just had a bazillion different ways to customize your character at generation. Morrowind had a decent amount of options, and then in Oblivion everything was limited and consolidated as fuck. I wanna have a lot of different weapons, abilities, spells, and characteristics that differentiate my character and make the gameplay experience different. In oblivion it just didn't feel like it actually mattered what skills/race/class I chose. This a thousand times. And don't forget the world as well. The entire world in Daggerfall spanned the equivalent of of 487,000 square kilometers with thousands of procedurally generated towns. Morrowind and Oblivion are scaled down to about 25.9 square kilometers and 41.4 square kilometers respectively. The content in Daggerfall was pretty roughly done, but one wonders what they could have made with the procedural content today. Imagine with better generation algorithms what a 487,000 square kilometer procedurally generated world could look like today. And would it have been a better game than Morrowind/Oblivion? On December 16 2010 15:21 RedMosquito wrote: did i just hear someone say oblivion was terrible?? that was one of the best games i ever played. lost three years of my life to that game. Its quite simply the best RPG of all time and you're ignorant to say its terrible. Theres so much to do in that game It's all a relative measure. People who say Oblivion is bad are saying so in comparison to pretty provably better games (Morrowind, BG1/2, Fallout Series, etc.). Having "much to do" doesn't amount to much when so little of it actually matters for anything. Ironically, this would make them anything BUT ignorant. Elitist, maybe. Overly cynical, probably. But not ignorant. It's a fun game, but its pretty clearly not the best RPG of all time. I probably wouldn't even put it on my top 10, but if we're making a list that starts to get more subjective. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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Nyx
Rwanda460 Posts
On December 16 2010 16:20 Fishball wrote: I liked Oblivion too. The original ending was a let down, but a lot of the other side quests made up for it. I really loved the Dark Brotherhood quests. I was so drawn in at the time, and remember myself being "angered" by the death of my beloved friend Lucien Lachance. I avenged him with pride. The quest where you're inserted into a house party to kill off all the guests one by one, I replayed that so many times in so many ways.... | ||
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University
United States263 Posts
...but Morrowind. That was something to keep you playing for hours. Such a badass title. Soo many glitches and ways to destroy balance/any danger of dying whatsoever BUT that's what made it so fun in some ways. I just remember getting to Balmora for the first time and stealing everything. Really looking forward to this title and I hope it comes out in the summer so I have time to play it. | ||
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lynx.oblige
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
But seriously, Oblivion with FCOM and other mods was literally 100x better than everything else I've played on PC. I don't understand how people can think non-Bethesda RPGs are good unless they haven't played Oblivion. | ||
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REDBLUEGREEN
Germany1904 Posts
On December 16 2010 22:34 University wrote: Soo many glitches and ways to destroy balance/any danger of dying whatsoever BUT that's what made it so fun in some ways. lol yeah. I remember making a 5000 points levitation potion that lasted like 30 minutes. Was just flying around until my PC crashed :D | ||
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takingbackoj
United States684 Posts
I really like the Elder Scrolls games but hopefully Bethesda changes this imo. | ||
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polgas
Canada1782 Posts
I didn't know enemies scale levels until I read this thread. It's disappointing but at least now I know I didn't have to grind. | ||
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Boblion
France8043 Posts
On December 18 2010 03:47 iamke55 wrote: I don't understand how people can think non-Bethesda RPGs are good unless they haven't played Oblivion. Usually it is the other way around. | ||
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Dizz
United States17 Posts
On December 18 2010 04:38 takingbackoj wrote: Did anyone else hate oblivion for the mere fact that enemies leveled with you. I think that ruined the game. Yes, one of the chief pleasures of playing an RPG is to watch your character grow stronger/advance. There's no bar to measure that progress with auto-leveling enemies. | ||
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SingletonWilliam
United States664 Posts
But the real problem with oblivion is that it wasn't as expansive as Morrowind. Morrowind had ship wrecks, underwater caves, daedric temples, dwemer temples, etc. and Oblivion was like one large field. | ||
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scottyyy
United Kingdom796 Posts
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Lord_of_Chaos
Sweden372 Posts
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dacthehork
United States2000 Posts
On December 18 2010 03:47 iamke55 wrote: Alright I'm gonna play Morrowind and install the right mods to play it the right way... But seriously, Oblivion with FCOM and other mods was literally 100x better than everything else I've played on PC. I don't understand how people can think non-Bethesda RPGs are good unless they haven't played Oblivion. FCOM Oblivion is great, vanilla oblivion was really bad Too bad my version just crashes a ton for some reason I can't figure out. Installing Fcom is always a pain though FCOM basically makes the game a lot better and takes out a good portion of dynamic stuff for more static areas (places with way harder creatures etc where you will die). So it's a nice change of pace and rewards exploring (looking for the right dungeons, running from some to come back later etc. | ||
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Orgondor
Sweden16 Posts
On December 18 2010 04:38 takingbackoj wrote: Did anyone else hate oblivion for the mere fact that enemies leveled with you. I think that ruined the game. Yes, it was even a very bad implementation of a bad concept. The system made it super bad to diversify your skill set, if you trained very different skills you would end up being super under powered in combat. And if you did the opposite you got way to overpowered... Oblivion was beautiful and I did spend some time playing it, Morrowind however outshines it every way apart from graphics. Fingers crossed they get it right in this iteration. | ||
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