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LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 06 2012 05:56 GMT
#1181
Pretty sure you missed the point. They designed a game, cut a critical chunk out, and are now selling you that chunk separately. That's wrong.

Also you can't import a face designed in ME1 into ME3. People on the forums are, understandably, extremely pissed off.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 06:00:30
March 06 2012 05:59 GMT
#1182
On March 06 2012 14:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Pretty sure you missed the point. They designed a game, cut a critical chunk out, and are now selling you that chunk separately. That's wrong.

Also you can't import a face designed in ME1 into ME3. People on the forums are, understandably, extremely pissed off.

Is it? is it wrong to treat one customer different becuase they paid more?
That's essentially what is being done, the idea that you should get all content on the disk is quite archaic considering the move to services like steam and origin where a disk necessarily isn't there. Does it stop being wrong when there are no more game systems and disks? when it's all though server emulation or downloaded service?
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 06 2012 06:06 GMT
#1183


Watch that first.

The standard, buy-off-the-shelf version, or even the standard digital download version, is not complete. It's exactly the same as buying a car that has no seats, and then being told that seats are extra. Or watching a movie with the middle ten minutes completely cut out unless you pay extra. Or reading a book with a chapter torn out. Or...

There are a lot of appropriate analogies, some more and some less dramatic. It stops being wrong when companies start releasing complete, functional products. Bioware hasn't for several years now.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 06:15:07
March 06 2012 06:10 GMT
#1184
So do you have windows 7? The same disk is used for business and ultimate(although a little bit of ultimate is downloaded due some selected services which you get off their website) different cd keys unlock different parts of the disk, it was developed all at the same time infact what likely occurred is they removed features for home user. It's called tiered service ionno why people get up in arms becuase it's a game. So when it happens everywhere else that's just fine, it's common practice outside of games yet in a game this is unheard of?
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
March 06 2012 06:16 GMT
#1185
Companies are adapting to the market in order to maintain/increase profit margins. The old models involving expansion packs don't really work for traditional AAA titles (or those titles intended to be AAA productions). I would much rather pay upfront, plus $1-$10 fees, for continued development on a game that I enjoy, rather than sacrifice the production values that AAA-titles tend to have. The end result is that I buy far fewer games than I used to, but each game that I do enjoy has a longer life. Fallout New Vegas is my favorite example of this.

To me it makes absolutely zero difference whether the DLC is floating out on the Internet somewhere, on an actual disc in a game box, or waiting patiently for months on a few hard drives before being released out into the wild. It's a huge logical fallacy to compare on-disc DLC to a car missing necessary features; it's much more similar to paying for additional toppings on a pizza. Those toppings were in the kitchen along with all the other ingredients you were supposed to get, but access is behind a paywall. The game is not unplayable without DLC, but it might taste better with the DLC. Or it might not.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 06:22:37
March 06 2012 06:20 GMT
#1186
On March 06 2012 14:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Pretty sure you missed the point. They designed a game, cut a critical chunk out, and are now selling you that chunk separately. That's wrong.

Also you can't import a face designed in ME1 into ME3. People on the forums are, understandably, extremely pissed off.


The downloadable content is in no way shape or form critical, at all. Yes, it enhances the story a little bit by providing some more background info, and it's cool, but it certainly doesn't change the story much at all, and it's not a big deal if you don't have it.

And yes, I have the downloadable content (got a digital deluxe) and yes I've seen what it contains in game.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
March 06 2012 06:21 GMT
#1187
On March 06 2012 15:06 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM

Watch that first.

The standard, buy-off-the-shelf version, or even the standard digital download version, is not complete. It's exactly the same as buying a car that has no seats, and then being told that seats are extra. Or watching a movie with the middle ten minutes completely cut out unless you pay extra. Or reading a book with a chapter torn out. Or...

There are a lot of appropriate analogies, some more and some less dramatic. It stops being wrong when companies start releasing complete, functional products. Bioware hasn't for several years now.


No, it's more like buying a car, and then being told that you can choose to pay extra to have the ability to start the car remotely and turn the heat on when you aren't in the car yet so it's nice and warm when you get into it, or that you can choose to pay extra to get a durable coating over the hood to protect it from rocks in the road that get kicked up.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
March 06 2012 06:29 GMT
#1188
On March 06 2012 15:20 Whitewing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 14:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Pretty sure you missed the point. They designed a game, cut a critical chunk out, and are now selling you that chunk separately. That's wrong.

Also you can't import a face designed in ME1 into ME3. People on the forums are, understandably, extremely pissed off.


The downloadable content is in no way shape or form critical, at all. Yes, it enhances the story a little bit by providing some more background info, and it's cool, but it certainly doesn't change the story much at all, and it's not a big deal if you don't have it.

And yes, I have the downloadable content (got a digital deluxe) and yes I've seen what it contains in game.


If you care at all about the universe (and it's pretty clear IMO that Bioware doesn't) then yeah, it's pretty important.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 06 2012 06:36 GMT
#1189
On March 06 2012 15:29 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 15:20 Whitewing wrote:
On March 06 2012 14:56 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Pretty sure you missed the point. They designed a game, cut a critical chunk out, and are now selling you that chunk separately. That's wrong.

Also you can't import a face designed in ME1 into ME3. People on the forums are, understandably, extremely pissed off.


The downloadable content is in no way shape or form critical, at all. Yes, it enhances the story a little bit by providing some more background info, and it's cool, but it certainly doesn't change the story much at all, and it's not a big deal if you don't have it.

And yes, I have the downloadable content (got a digital deluxe) and yes I've seen what it contains in game.


If you care at all about the universe (and it's pretty clear IMO that Bioware doesn't) then yeah, it's pretty important.

The universe of mass effect has always been done well, it's the actual plot itself that's often undertold or full of holes, hell the collectors just seem like a filler episode between mass effect 1 and 3, doesn't mean the stories of the individual characters and the atmosphere didn't seem spot on because i sure didn't mind.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
March 06 2012 06:37 GMT
#1190
Is there any point in discussing what we did 10 pages ago? If you dont like the buissness practice dont buy the game/Dont buy the DLC. Considering the amount of entertainment a computer game gives me for its cost i can see why game companies actully try to make more money from them.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
March 06 2012 06:45 GMT
#1191
Downloaded a ME2 save from the mass effect replay site. How do I go about importing it into ME3?
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Sitinte
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States499 Posts
March 06 2012 06:47 GMT
#1192
On March 06 2012 15:45 Hoban wrote:
Downloaded a ME2 save from the mass effect replay site. How do I go about importing it into ME3?


Just put it in your Mass Effect 2 save folder. Located it My Documents --> Bioware --> Mass Effect 2 --> save


Sigh... I knew EA's servers would be down.
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 07:04:20
March 06 2012 06:48 GMT
#1193
On March 06 2012 15:45 Hoban wrote:
Downloaded a ME2 save from the mass effect replay site. How do I go about importing it into ME3?


It should be somewhere like:

"C:\Users\___\Documents\BioWare\Mass Effect 2\Save\(charname)_(level)_(class)_(date)"

edit: fixed per below post, added class field

edit2: example: "C:\Users\___\Documents\BioWare\Mass Effect 2\Save\Jenna_30_Soldier_022012\Save_0001.pcsav"
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
March 06 2012 06:49 GMT
#1194
On March 06 2012 15:47 Sitinte wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2012 15:45 Hoban wrote:
Downloaded a ME2 save from the mass effect replay site. How do I go about importing it into ME3?


Just put it in your Mass Effect 2 save folder. Located it My Documents --> Bioware --> Mass Effect 2 --> save


Sigh... I knew EA's servers would be down.

Well you also need to put it in a folder for it to be exactly the same for example
the format for the folder
Name_12_Class_Datecreated
Which becomes
German_12_Vanguard_050210
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 07:01:19
March 06 2012 06:53 GMT
#1195
Awesome thanks for the info! Was missing the name I think.

Ok so far it isn't working. Here is what I have done.

Made a folder in Documents/BioWare named Mass Effect 2 then put a Save folder in there so it looks like Documents/BioWare/Mass Effect 2/Save

Then I renamed the save file below: Jenna_30_Soldier_022012
Name Jenna Shepard
Date Added 2012-02-20 02:15:34
Gender / Alignment Female Paragon
Level / Class 30 Soldier

The file reads:
C:\Users\________\Documents\BioWare\Mass Effect 2\Save\Jenna_30_Soldier_022012.pcsav

Still not showing up
"I am a leaf on the wind."
carraway
Profile Joined March 2011
264 Posts
March 06 2012 07:03 GMT
#1196
On March 06 2012 15:53 Hoban wrote:
Awesome thanks for the info! Was missing the name I think.

Ok so far it isn't working. Here is what I have done.

Made a folder in Documents/BioWare named Mass Effect 2 then put a Save folder in there so it looks like Documents/BioWare/Mass Effect 2/Save

Then I renamed the save file below: Jenna_30_Soldier_022012
Name Jenna Shepard
Date Added 2012-02-20 02:15:34
Gender / Alignment Female Paragon
Level / Class 30 Soldier

The file reads:
C:\Users\________\Documents\BioWare\Mass Effect 2\Save\Jenna_30_Soldier_022012.pcsav

Still not showing up


C:\Users\________\Documents\BioWare\Mass Effect 2\Save\Jenna_30_Soldier_022012\Save_0001.pcsav
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
March 06 2012 07:05 GMT
#1197
I went to a midnight release and there was cake. AND HAWAIIN PUNCH.

Hell yes Gamestop knows how the throw a party got my cake and my punch.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 07:18:32
March 06 2012 07:07 GMT
#1198
Still can't get it to work. I made a folder named that and renamed the save as Save_0001.pcsav and put it in the folder. Still nothing.

Edit: Got it to work! Haha I missed a 0 somewhere. Thank you all for the help!!
"I am a leaf on the wind."
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-06 07:48:50
March 06 2012 07:42 GMT
#1199
Anyone else have issues with their imported character not having the correct facial features on the xbox version?

Edit: UGH. Apparently if you imported your character from ME1 to ME2 (which is the only way I have ever done) the face code cannot be transferred to ME3 and you have to recreate your face manually...

http://forums.xbox.com/xbox_forums/xbox_360_games/l_o/masseffect3/f/337/p/216210/1120915.aspx#1120915

Sounds like bioware was answering questions about this before release, which means they most likely cannot resolve the problem.
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34504 Posts
March 06 2012 07:54 GMT
#1200
Estimated day of delivery of my new laptop: 20th March.

2 weeks until I play ME3
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