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AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 14:19:21
February 24 2012 14:11 GMT
#861
Well nobody ever said it was a classic RPG. It's a mix of genres and somethin new. Dunno why people would call it out on not being a "real rpg" then. They never said that that was their goal.

And per wikipedia definition ME actually is an RPG. Just sayin :D
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Demnogonis
Profile Joined December 2011
Finland80 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 14:20:29
February 24 2012 14:19 GMT
#862
On February 24 2012 22:45 ZeaL. wrote:It must be hard being an RPG elitist seeing as there haven't been any "real" RPG's released in years...


Well there was Knights of the Chalice released a few years back, and it's great. Turn-based tactical combat at it's finest.

And I don't so much care that ME isn't like Wizardry or something, it's just that I don't like my action games slow and boring. Maybe if there was some tactical depth, but eh. It's one of those game series that are not terrible but the only really good thing I have to say about it is the music and the atmosphere at times.
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Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
February 24 2012 14:29 GMT
#863
On February 24 2012 22:45 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2012 22:42 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
On February 24 2012 22:31 Iyerbeth wrote:
Surprised that so many people are opposed to the multiplayer in ME3. If it was competetive and so messed with balance of single player, or poorly implemented, or taking away from the single player I would completely agree but that really doesn't seem to be the case at all. I admit I really wasn't looking forward to the multiplayer until I saw how it was implemented but why do people who know the details now still oppose it?


A lot of RPG-elitists out there


It must be hard being an RPG elitist seeing as there haven't been any "real" RPG's released in years...


that is probably what pissed off so many people about DA2. Dragon Age Origins came closer to a "real" RPG than what we have had for years. It wasn't quite Baldur's Gate, but it seemed to be what BG would be if it was programmed today and made many many people happy.

Than we had ME2 (which came a bit later if i remember it right) which had forsaken almost all RPG roots of ME1, but was still a good game if you like shooters with a bit more added in. But many people were deeply disappointed. One year or so later Bioware released DA2, which frankly didn't even come close to being as good as DA:O.

To be honest I like Mass Effect and the way these games feel, what i cannot really forgive Bioware is what they released as DA2.

Also they get a lot of flack because they advertise ME to this day as a revolutionary RPG game. If they were honest and advertised it as a shooter with some RPG elements they would have far fewer problems with the die hard fans who still hope they make pure RPGs.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 14:38:24
February 24 2012 14:37 GMT
#864
I agree with that. After DA:O the second one was disappointing from a roleplaying perspective. They completely focused on other things (probably because of the success of ME2) when they could have taken DA:O further. I was really hoping for some sort of BG2 revival. I still had fun with DA2 though...
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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
February 24 2012 14:41 GMT
#865
yea people hated DA2 but i liked alot... i wished they made a dlc because that ending... was a cliffhanger... probably gonna have to wait til DA3.
Jimmy Raynor
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
902 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 15:28:40
February 24 2012 15:27 GMT
#866
Dragon Age: Origins was amazing. If they make DA3 I hope it will be more like it
gForce.
Profile Joined January 2010
United Kingdom345 Posts
February 24 2012 19:57 GMT
#867
So... few years ago I thought to myself that Mass Effect isn't really worth my time, at college my friends always pressured me to play it, but I never gave it a try until a few days ago (till today). I had a lot of free time on my hands and I basically, no-life'd trough Mass Effect and ME2. I must admit now, one of the best game's I have ever played, amazing experience, I'm certain that I will have no regrets pre-ordering ME3 but god dammit, I have bow before Origin (need that DLC content, I'm a freak).
Johnnybb
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark486 Posts
February 24 2012 21:25 GMT
#868
Holy shit I just played the demo. It's amazing!
BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
February 24 2012 22:17 GMT
#869
On February 25 2012 00:27 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Dragon Age: Origins was amazing. If they make DA3 I hope it will be more like it


meh da:o was good but i never understood the hype around it. maybe its because of all the "omg look,they wanna revive BG style of games!" pretalk that made me expect way more then i got in the end.

didnt even care enough to fully finish it in the end. but ofcourse DA2 was jsut utter shit. it was a good business decision since they could just print money with a unfinished, rushed and at best average action game. but ofc fully deserved all the hate it got.



ME3 i dont know. i liked ME2. its a well done game that is at top level of what it wanted to be. didnt expect much, ended up really liking it. but im in no way holding my breath for ME3.


also i fully understand and support the day1 DLC complains. its a ripoff and nothing else. those companies got away with bullshit overpriced crap dlcs for years now and are just trying to push it further. be happy that there are people that atleast try to stand up against that.



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solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
February 24 2012 22:21 GMT
#870
On February 25 2012 00:27 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Dragon Age: Origins was amazing. If they make DA3 I hope it will be more like it


They are making it and they've promised to go back more to what Dragon age Origins was. Anyone with half a brian though know that's just a random promise to stem the tides.
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BeMannerDuPenner
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Germany5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 22:28:28
February 24 2012 22:27 GMT
#871
On February 25 2012 07:21 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 00:27 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Dragon Age: Origins was amazing. If they make DA3 I hope it will be more like it


They are making it and they've promised to go back more to what Dragon age Origins was. Anyone with half a brian though know that's just a random promise to stem the tides.


why? da2 was a very obvious money generating move and nothing else. doubt people there can be stupid enough to think that da2 would be well recieved carrying that name. so they got their money, still have a name (since if da3 really is good all the haters ,including me, will still play it) and now have time to make a good game.

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Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
February 24 2012 22:29 GMT
#872
the areas were all too linear for my liking in DA:O, but I have come to expect nothing else from Bioware so I g uess my explorer heart has to deal with it :/
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2686 Posts
February 24 2012 22:36 GMT
#873
On February 25 2012 07:27 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:21 solidbebe wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:27 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Dragon Age: Origins was amazing. If they make DA3 I hope it will be more like it


They are making it and they've promised to go back more to what Dragon age Origins was. Anyone with half a brian though know that's just a random promise to stem the tides.


why? da2 was a very obvious money generating move and nothing else. doubt people there can be stupid enough to think that da2 would be well recieved carrying that name. so they got their money, still have a name (since if da3 really is good all the haters ,including me, will still play it) and now have time to make a good game.



I agree that Dragon Age: Origins was a lot better, but I have to disagree that Dragon Age 2 was just a money grabber. I thoroughly enjoyed the game and many others did as well.
Remfire
Profile Joined October 2010
492 Posts
February 24 2012 22:39 GMT
#874
I think this has potential to be a great game the first one was great. the second one what not to bad. I think a 3rd would be a great addition, I am going to keep an open mind =]
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
February 24 2012 22:43 GMT
#875
On February 25 2012 07:27 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 07:21 solidbebe wrote:
On February 25 2012 00:27 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Dragon Age: Origins was amazing. If they make DA3 I hope it will be more like it


They are making it and they've promised to go back more to what Dragon age Origins was. Anyone with half a brian though know that's just a random promise to stem the tides.


why? da2 was a very obvious money generating move and nothing else. doubt people there can be stupid enough to think that da2 would be well recieved carrying that name. so they got their money, still have a name (since if da3 really is good all the haters ,including me, will still play it) and now have time to make a good game.



Well okay, maybe it isn't. Still, I wouldn't put any money on it. Bioware isn't really a developer I have trust in.
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Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
February 24 2012 23:00 GMT
#876
On February 25 2012 07:29 Skilledblob wrote:
the areas were all too linear for my liking in DA:O, but I have come to expect nothing else from Bioware so I g uess my explorer heart has to deal with it :/

True the areas were fairly streamlined ("Schlauchlevel" not sure if you say tube levels in english). But the basic combat system and setup was pretty much a classic party based game. That is what many fans are missing nowadays.


Note that is obviously fairly off topic, as i said, i don't expect to get similar combat systems from ME games even if i might like it :D
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-24 23:23:50
February 24 2012 23:23 GMT
#877
Dragon Age:Origins was in some areas just plain bad. I am happy that Mass Effect 3 does not try to be as Hard-Core-RPGish as possible. It wouldn't fit the series at all.
I do not even know why I enjoyed DA:O so much, nor do I know why I enjoyed DA2. But I did. I guess that is good work on BioWares end.
But comparing the Dragon Age franchise to the Mass Effect franchise is IMO a bit stupid. They just are completly different from each other (apart from recruiting your allies and leading them into the battle hat decides the fate of the world blablabla).

For me a "real" or classic RPG is anyway not the turn-based kind but the third-person real-time kind simply because I started playing videogames with Gothic (a german RPG series). So arguing about the good old days isn't very helpful because most of the "younger" gamers (myself included) have other good old days.

To stay on topic: Does anyone else have the problem in the multiplayer demo, that if you host a game it seems that no one can join even though the game is public. And if so is there some way to fix it because it is truly a pain in the ass to find a game if you are just two or three.
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
February 24 2012 23:49 GMT
#878
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On February 25 2012 08:23 CrazyBirdman wrote:
To stay on topic: Does anyone else have the problem in the multiplayer demo, that if you host a game it seems that no one can join even though the game is public. And if so is there some way to fix it because it is truly a pain in the ass to find a game if you are just two or three.


Have you tried opening your ports? I had issues where I couldn't join friends' games, but once I opened the proper ports, which you can find in Bioware's forums, I had no trouble connecting to their games or inviting them to mine.
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
February 24 2012 23:56 GMT
#879
On February 25 2012 08:49 procyonlotor wrote:

Show nested quote +
On February 25 2012 08:23 CrazyBirdman wrote:
To stay on topic: Does anyone else have the problem in the multiplayer demo, that if you host a game it seems that no one can join even though the game is public. And if so is there some way to fix it because it is truly a pain in the ass to find a game if you are just two or three.


Have you tried opening your ports? I had issues where I couldn't join friends' games, but once I opened the proper ports, which you can find in Bioware's forums, I had no trouble connecting to their games or inviting them to mine.


The problem is not connecting to a friends game but random people seemingly not beeing able to join a game I hosted. I tried opening ports how it is recommended on the forums but it seems something doesn't work properly on my PC.
I hope the matchmaking will be smoother in the final game because playing the MP is a ton of fun.
It would just be so much easier if people would join our games because finding a game where there are 3 slots free is hard...
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-25 00:20:20
February 25 2012 00:19 GMT
#880
I have the exact same problem. When i play with one or two friends we can join each others games without a problem but we can never fill the open slots with public players because somehow nobody ever joins a game that we create. Really annoying. Often times we are 2 or 3 players and its hard to fill open spots.

Also joining games that a friend has entered seems to be bugged a lot. It says game is full or can't connect so many times when one of us wants to follow the other even though there are free slots. Can't tell how often we've tried to find games when there were two of us and it hasn't worked because we can never follow.

I really hope they fix all that crap before release cuz that shit is really ruining the multiplayer experience. Been trying to make this work for hours now...
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