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blackberry_
Profile Joined September 2011
114 Posts
February 22 2012 19:56 GMT
#781
So I just played the demo again because I fucking love ME3. I played biotic this time around and I realized that Shepherd can do biotic-powered chain combo melee attacks. Who needs guns? Just run in and beat the shit out of everyone with your OP fists.
Live your life.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
February 22 2012 19:58 GMT
#782
On February 23 2012 04:56 blackberry_ wrote:
So I just played the demo again because I fucking love ME3. I played biotic this time around and I realized that Shepherd can do biotic-powered chain combo melee attacks. Who needs guns? Just run in and beat the shit out of everyone with your OP fists.

This is viable in multiplayer as well, vanguard with maxed finesse is pretty crazy. Boosts melee damage a ton and gives buffs by killing enemies with heavy attacks.
TALegion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1187 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 20:16:19
February 22 2012 20:04 GMT
#783
On February 23 2012 03:08 Tobberoth wrote:
I just had a weird issue where I played silver as Vanguard with two infiltrators. I'm just lvl 6, but basically, when ever they cloaked, I died since all the enemy fire focused on me. There wasn't much I could do other than spam Charge to try to keep my shield up, but yeah, seems like too many infiltrators on a team sort of breaks it for the others, unless the whole team are infiltrators ^^

Pretty much. All infiltrators, 1, or none. My main is an one and my friends almost solely use me for reviving them and objectives. They're all rather self-sufficient classes (A sentinel, a soldier, and an engineer) and can handle themselves when enemies focus on them, so I fit in well. But, on a team that's not so properly built, a reckless infiltrator will fuck you up.

On February 23 2012 04:58 Tobberoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 04:56 blackberry_ wrote:
So I just played the demo again because I fucking love ME3. I played biotic this time around and I realized that Shepherd can do biotic-powered chain combo melee attacks. Who needs guns? Just run in and beat the shit out of everyone with your OP fists.

This is viable in multiplayer as well, vanguard with maxed finesse is pretty crazy. Boosts melee damage a ton and gives buffs by killing enemies with heavy attacks.

I can't imagine that working. Honestly, I can't imagine anyone without maximum buffs to shields and health from the Fitness tree working at all at higher levels. Without them, you'll basically be one-shot by anything, and Vanguard charge has a cooldown.
A person willing to die for a cause is a hero. A person willing to kill for a cause is a madman
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 22 2012 20:11 GMT
#784
On February 23 2012 04:56 blackberry_ wrote:
So I just played the demo again because I fucking love ME3. I played biotic this time around and I realized that Shepherd can do biotic-powered chain combo melee attacks. Who needs guns? Just run in and beat the shit out of everyone with your OP fists.

Wouldn't really say that's the case on Gold, but whatever
Madkipz
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway1643 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 20:40:42
February 22 2012 20:36 GMT
#785
TotalBiscuit talks at length of what Bioware's launch DLC and how it has crossed the line of what is acceptable.

+ Show Spoiler +


For those who may not know, EA / Bioware have released a piece of Mass Effect 3 that was developed before the game was released as a 10 dollar DLC.

The closest Equalent to this is Shale / Zaeed that were given for free for bying the game new (To combat used copies).

I am honestly considering the same as he suggests.

Boikotting it. I know, i know. It sucks but if we don't stand on our consumer entitlement then the companies and publishers will keep pushing these boundaries.
"Mudkip"
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9582 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 20:57:38
February 22 2012 20:43 GMT
#786
Yeah Bronze is pretty much introduction to multiplayer. Silver shows you you can't be a rambo. You WILL need teamplay to win/survive. Gold shows you kills don't matter. Survival and teamplay above all is needed. Even as Vanguard, you want +HP +Barrier because as a human you are around 500-600 points each without it, which let me tell you is SQUISHY. I mean fucking Phantom/Nemesis/Atlas fodder squishy.
I found that heavy melee is great and powerful sure, but it has it's specific place. Cannot run around meleeing everything in sight above bronze, which is hilariously easy once you go Gold.

My Krogan soldier has 1200 HP and 1600 Shields and better initial melee than a human vanguard's upgraded one. It's there to get you out of dangerous 1v1 spots, like vs a phantom or centurion.
You. Want. HP/Shields/Barriers and regeneration. AT. HIGHER. LEVELS. PERIOD.

Oh and Vanguard charge does not have a cooldown =). Wear a pistol or choose the weigh perks for a shotty and charge/nova everything to death. Also skill shockwave 1-2 levels to kill guardians up close. By the time you finish nova animation you can charge again. If you skill Nova for not wasting shields and charge for 100% shield recharge you're golden as long as you have a brain.
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Gnosis
Profile Joined December 2008
Scotland912 Posts
February 22 2012 21:37 GMT
#787
On February 23 2012 05:36 Madkipz wrote:
TotalBiscuit talks at length of what Bioware's launch DLC and how it has crossed the line of what is acceptable.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2b6dd10FAAAAAAAAAAA


For those who may not know, EA / Bioware have released a piece of Mass Effect 3 that was developed before the game was released as a 10 dollar DLC.

The closest Equalent to this is Shale / Zaeed that were given for free for bying the game new (To combat used copies).

I am honestly considering the same as he suggests.

Boikotting it. I know, i know. It sucks but if we don't stand on our consumer entitlement then the companies and publishers will keep pushing these boundaries.


I'll be boycotting. It also helps that I can't afford it at launch anyway.
"Reason is flawless, de jure, but reasoners are not, de facto." – Peter Kreeft
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#788
The mentality of selling in DLC something they made and which is ready before launch is so disgusting. -_-
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#789
On February 23 2012 05:36 Madkipz wrote:
TotalBiscuit talks at length of what Bioware's launch DLC and how it has crossed the line of what is acceptable.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM&feature=g-all-lik&context=G2b6dd10FAAAAAAAAAAA


For those who may not know, EA / Bioware have released a piece of Mass Effect 3 that was developed before the game was released as a 10 dollar DLC.

The closest Equalent to this is Shale / Zaeed that were given for free for bying the game new (To combat used copies).

I am honestly considering the same as he suggests.

Boikotting it. I know, i know. It sucks but if we don't stand on our consumer entitlement then the companies and publishers will keep pushing these boundaries.


Yeah, I'm really glad that I shelled out a little extra for the CE. The clerk told me when I did it in January that there was going to be extra DLC, but I was mostly concerned with getting the soundtrack.

I don't really blame EA and Bioware for what they're doing with the DLC. The used game market has forced their hands. Also, you have to consider the quality of what you're buying. Given the overall high level of quality of ME 1 and M2, the degree to which I enjoyed playing them, and the amount of time that I spent playing them (easily 100+ hours each), I'd gladly shell out $100 for ME3. The $60 price point for new games is arbitrary. For some games, it is too high. For some games, it is too low. The Mass Effect franchise falls into the latter category. Of course, I'm speaking from the perspective of a "gaming elitist," who only buys 2-3 AAA titles per year and won't bother with mediocre games.
Grohg
Profile Joined March 2011
United States243 Posts
February 22 2012 21:52 GMT
#790
I won't boycott the game but I won't pay for DLC either. EA orchestrates the mediocre DLC while Bioware makes a great game. I didn't play any of the ME2 DLC until my third playthrough and they weren't even integral to the game. They simply extend the ME universe more. The same will be true for ME3...DLC on day one is stupid but a few copies not sold will hardly matter with a game of this size. In all honesty they won't even notice the losses because there is no way to quantify potential sales that they didn't make because of some poorly planned boycott. Send them messages telling them you won't buy their DLC and tell them why. At least that way you know they can count one less sale. Otherwise there isn't any way they even know you had issues with it.
You can't spell slaughter without laughter.
ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 22:27:38
February 22 2012 22:27 GMT
#791
On February 23 2012 06:52 Grohg wrote:
I won't boycott the game but I won't pay for DLC either. EA orchestrates the mediocre DLC while Bioware makes a great game. I didn't play any of the ME2 DLC until my third playthrough and they weren't even integral to the game. They simply extend the ME universe more. The same will be true for ME3...DLC on day one is stupid but a few copies not sold will hardly matter with a game of this size. In all honesty they won't even notice the losses because there is no way to quantify potential sales that they didn't make because of some poorly planned boycott. Send them messages telling them you won't buy their DLC and tell them why. At least that way you know they can count one less sale. Otherwise there isn't any way they even know you had issues with it.

All ME2 DLC was free tho(release stuff), and this DLC actully inpacts the universe seing how protheans are a huge part of the lore of this game. Sad to see how EA is ruining biowares reputation of making good lore games by doing dumb moves like this
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 22:35:54
February 22 2012 22:27 GMT
#792
On February 23 2012 06:52 Grohg wrote:
I won't boycott the game but I won't pay for DLC either. EA orchestrates the mediocre DLC while Bioware makes a great game. I didn't play any of the ME2 DLC until my third playthrough and they weren't even integral to the game. They simply extend the ME universe more. The same will be true for ME3...DLC on day one is stupid but a few copies not sold will hardly matter with a game of this size. In all honesty they won't even notice the losses because there is no way to quantify potential sales that they didn't make because of some poorly planned boycott. Send them messages telling them you won't buy their DLC and tell them why. At least that way you know they can count one less sale. Otherwise there isn't any way they even know you had issues with it.


That's exactly the reason I'm so annoyed about them adding the specific character choice they did as the day 1 DLC. As characters go, that one is clearly going to be very important to a lot of ME fans, rather than just being an interesting expansion later, or a lead in to a sequel which while interesting are not integral to the story/lore.

On February 23 2012 07:27 ragnorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 06:52 Grohg wrote:
I won't boycott the game but I won't pay for DLC either. EA orchestrates the mediocre DLC while Bioware makes a great game. I didn't play any of the ME2 DLC until my third playthrough and they weren't even integral to the game. They simply extend the ME universe more. The same will be true for ME3...DLC on day one is stupid but a few copies not sold will hardly matter with a game of this size. In all honesty they won't even notice the losses because there is no way to quantify potential sales that they didn't make because of some poorly planned boycott. Send them messages telling them you won't buy their DLC and tell them why. At least that way you know they can count one less sale. Otherwise there isn't any way they even know you had issues with it.

All ME2 DLC was free tho(release stuff), and this DLC actully inpacts the universe seing how protheans are a huge part of the lore of this game. Sad to see how EA is ruining biowares reputation of making good lore games by doing dumb moves like this


Edit: Realised I missed the importance of your parenthesis, so this part of my post wasn't necessary to your post. Sorry!
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ragnorr
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 22:33:35
February 22 2012 22:33 GMT
#793
Edit nvm
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 22:42:05
February 22 2012 22:38 GMT
#794
I probably won't buy the DLC but not because I find it somehow "unethical" from BioWare/EA.
I simply learned from the ME2 DLC characters who did not fit at all in the game and I feel the annouced new squadmate would rather annoy than entertain me because I feel he does not fit into the universe.
If everyone goes on about how crazy good the DLC is I might give it a try but from what I've heard it will simply be a chararter specific mission an one guy more onboard the Normandy to whom I have no connection at all.

The hate towards the DLC is understandable. I would be also upset but I am just not such the huge lore guy so it doesn't bother me tremedously. As long as I get to know the reapers, a few homeworld and can visit a few iconic places from previous games I will be happy. You cannot blame BioWare on announcing this too late. As far as I know with the first description of the N7-Edition the announced that there will be a exclusive character with his very own mission, so everyone saw it coming. So I do not entirely understand why everyone goes crazy about this only a few week before release.
And I desperatly need Garrus, Mordin and Wrex, they are just too awesome. Legion maybe too, so i have enough character I am looking forward too.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
February 22 2012 22:53 GMT
#795
On February 23 2012 05:36 Madkipz wrote:
TotalBiscuit talks at length of what Bioware's launch DLC and how it has crossed the line of what is acceptable.

I can see TBs point.
But I also don't really have a problem with them getting more money for what is a great game.
I'm sure the plot is perfectly fine without the additional character.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
February 22 2012 23:01 GMT
#796
Bioware damage control on it if anyone is interested.

In this spoiler is the official announcement but it does cover what is found in the DLC including a place of some significance and giving details of a character, which some may therefore consider a spoiler.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/9403705/1

+ Show Spoiler +


As most of you know, yesterday there was a leak that revealed the upcoming DLC “ME3:From Ashes” on the
Xbox LIVE Marketplace. This leak took place before we were prepared to make an announcement about the details of that pack (slated for this Friday).

There has been a lot of discussion about the DLC offering but we wanted to clarify a few things...

- “From Ashes” includes the Prothean squad mate, an adventure on Eden Prime, a new weapon, and an alternate
appearance for every squad mate. Note that these alternate appearances are in addition to the ones already advertised in the CE.

- The Collectors Edition has been advertised from the beginning as containing a bonus character/mission, but we were not at liberty to provide the details. The Prothean is optional content that is certainly designed to appeal to long-time fans, which is why he is part of the CE offering (the version many fans would be likely to purchase). Mass Effect 3 is a complete – and a huge game - right out of the box.

- The content in “From Ashes” was developed by a separate team (after the core game was finished) and not completed until well after the main game went into certification.

- The Collectors Edition has been sold out in most places for some time now, and is becoming very hard to find (many players prefer not to purchase the digital version). As such, we wanted to make this content available so that SE buyers could also incorporate the Prothean into their game.

We’ll be releasing someimages and video about this pack in the coming days.

As always, we are extremely thankful for all of your support. We pulled out all of the stops to make Mass Effect 3 the best game ever, and we can't wait for you all to experience it.

Mike

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crc
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia256 Posts
February 23 2012 00:01 GMT
#797
Someone on the bioware forum raised this very nice and succinct point. Whatever the DLC turns out to be, it will be a let down. Spoiler if you don't know what's in the DLC.

+ Show Spoiler +
You either have:
- A Prothean squad mate who's not important to the story and is just an ordinary guy with a gun
- An important addition to the storyline that adds to the depth, but will get missed unless you pay extra money (he's not in the "complete game")
Thingdo
Profile Joined August 2009
United States186 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 01:52:36
February 23 2012 01:52 GMT
#798
On February 23 2012 09:01 crc wrote:
Someone on the bioware forum raised this very nice and succinct point. Whatever the DLC turns out to be, it will be a let down. Spoiler if you don't know what's in the DLC.

+ Show Spoiler +
You either have:
- A Prothean squad mate who's not important to the story and is just an ordinary guy with a gun
- An important addition to the storyline that adds to the depth, but will get missed unless you pay extra money (he's not in the "complete game")


Exactly. Either way it sucks.

I basically only play the ME series for the lore, as I never really felt the combat and stuff stacked up that well vs other games. Lore was the one big area where ME (especially the first game) really stood out. Relegating an extremely important lore character to day 1 DLC is really really weak.

Won't be buying this one.
atmospheric
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria49 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 01:53:40
February 23 2012 01:52 GMT
#799
bioware already shut down new member registration on their forums O__o
I guess they're trying to prevent this thread
http://social.bioware.com/forum/Mass-Effect/Mass-Effect-General-Discussion-NO-SPOILERS-ALLOWED/A-CALL-TO-BOYCOT-ME3-9406412-1.html
from getting any bigger.

wow...just wow.

btw, check out what totalbiscuit has to say about the day-1-DLC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ri0vrJ-y2zM
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
February 23 2012 02:01 GMT
#800
Pretty tired of this shit. Was also utterly uninterested by ME2, so with this new info I definitely won't be buying ME3. I just wish they'd stop talking out of their ass, they can't have it both ways:

"It's a complete game without the DLC!"

"Any true fan will want the DLC, it's important!"

It's one or the other, not both.
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