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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
April 20 2012 12:35 GMT
#3261
On April 20 2012 20:18 woody60707 wrote:
I have that damn harpoon gun up to level X, I don't even have the Korgen Battlemaster yet.


Battlemaster, unlike the other vanguards, is very very viable in gold.

My favorite new class.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
April 20 2012 13:11 GMT
#3262
On April 20 2012 21:35 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 20 2012 20:18 woody60707 wrote:
I have that damn harpoon gun up to level X, I don't even have the Korgen Battlemaster yet.


Battlemaster, unlike the other vanguards, is very very viable in gold.

My favorite new class.


The others are also good in my experience. Especially if you have a good novaguard on the team, and you're able to support them properly then you'll clean up.
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-10 20:34:45
May 10 2012 20:34 GMT
#3263
I feel like this is a pretty decent reason to bump this thread:

Scylla Costa, ME3 Live Producer
Hi guys,

We are discussing internally about a set of guidelines that can permit MP modding while protecting the IP, economy and other players. I ask for a little bit of patience while we move forward internally with this topic.


I've been working on a mod that rebalances the game, as well as a 'platinum' difficulty level. The people I was working on the mod with decided to post some videos of us playing the mods in their beta stages, and a week later Bioware said that any and all modding is cheating. I was very sad. Now, there's a pretty decent chance we'll get developer supported modding!

So, modding in Mass Effect 3 MP? Discuss!
imJealous
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1382 Posts
May 10 2012 23:00 GMT
#3264
On May 11 2012 05:34 Lokrium wrote:
I feel like this is a pretty decent reason to bump this thread:

Show nested quote +
Scylla Costa, ME3 Live Producer
Hi guys,

We are discussing internally about a set of guidelines that can permit MP modding while protecting the IP, economy and other players. I ask for a little bit of patience while we move forward internally with this topic.


I've been working on a mod that rebalances the game, as well as a 'platinum' difficulty level. The people I was working on the mod with decided to post some videos of us playing the mods in their beta stages, and a week later Bioware said that any and all modding is cheating. I was very sad. Now, there's a pretty decent chance we'll get developer supported modding!

So, modding in Mass Effect 3 MP? Discuss!

What kind of balance changes did you guys make in your mod? I'm just curious
... In life very little goes right. "Right" meaning the way one expected and the way one wanted it. One has no right to want or expect anything.
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
May 11 2012 00:01 GMT
#3265
I balanced ALL THE THINGS:
+ Show Spoiler +

Combos:
Reduced Biotic Explosion damage from [100-250] to [75-190].
Unlocked Fire & Ice Explosions
Fire Explosion damage over time reduced from [20-50] to [0.01-0.01] UNTESTED
Fire Explosion radius decreased from [300-600] to [0.01-0.01] UNTESTED
Fire Explosion maxtargets decreased from [4] to [1] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion damage increased from [50-125] to [100-175] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion radius increased from [300-500] to [300-700] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion freeze duration increased from [2-5] to [4-10] UNTESTED

Singularity:
Radius increased from [100] to [150]
Max targets increased from [2] to [3]
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [5300]

Cloak:
Minimum cloak cooldown time increased from [3] to [3.75]
Base cooldown increased from [10] to [12]

Carnage:
Cooldown decreased from [10] to [8]
Projectile speed increased from [2000] to [2500]
Instant damage percent increased from [0.75] to [1.0]

Incinerate:
Damage increased from [300] to [450]
Instant damage percent from [0.75] [1.25]
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [4300]

Cryo Blast:
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [4300]
Duration increased from [3] to [8]
Base damage taken bonus increased from [0] to [0.15]

Energy Drain:
Shields restored changed from [0.5] to [0.175]
Shields restored evolve changed from [0.5 to [0.175]

Shockwave:
Rank 6 Cooldown evolution changed from [0.4] to [1.15]
Lift duration increased from [2.5] to [3.75]
Range increased from [1000] to [1400]
Projectile speed increased from [1000] to [1400] not really sure if this is working
Number of pulses increased from [6] to [8]
Force increased from [600] to [1000] - overwritten by balance changes
Damage increased from [200] to [315] overwritten by balance changes
timebetweenimpacts decreased from [0.18] to [0.15] UNTESTED
Radius increased from [200] to [260] UNTESTED

Sticky Grenades:
Damage increased from [750] to [1250]
Radius decreased from [200] to [250]

Tech Armor:
Radius increased from [300] to [550]
Damage Reduction increased from [0.25] to [0.35]

Fortification:
Base damage reduction increased from [0.15] to [0.25]

Sentry Turret:
Will nerf the cooldown to make it feel more impactful to use.
Damage increased by 12 times. (evolve_damagebonus = 7f)
Flamethrower does 3000 * (7/12) damage/cycle (damage increased from [55] to [83 * 7]
Rocket radius increased from [150] to [350] doesn't work t.t
Rocket force increased from [600~??] to [2000]
Rocket cooldown decreased from [4] to [3.75]
Rocket minimum range decreased from [1000] to [500]
Shock power "removed"
Evolve shieldbonus increased from [0.4] to [1]
Freeze chance increased from [0.5] to [100.0]


These aren't all the changes I'm going to make, and I also intend on rebalancing the weapons. As soon as I finish writing this paper I'll get started on the mod again. The platinum difficulty takes all of these changes and also increases enemy health by an average of 40% and enemy spawn counts by 150%.
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
May 11 2012 00:08 GMT
#3266
On May 11 2012 09:01 Lokrium wrote:
I balanced ALL THE THINGS:
+ Show Spoiler +

Combos:
Reduced Biotic Explosion damage from [100-250] to [75-190].
Unlocked Fire & Ice Explosions
Fire Explosion damage over time reduced from [20-50] to [0.01-0.01] UNTESTED
Fire Explosion radius decreased from [300-600] to [0.01-0.01] UNTESTED
Fire Explosion maxtargets decreased from [4] to [1] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion damage increased from [50-125] to [100-175] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion radius increased from [300-500] to [300-700] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion freeze duration increased from [2-5] to [4-10] UNTESTED

Singularity:
Radius increased from [100] to [150]
Max targets increased from [2] to [3]
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [5300]

Cloak:
Minimum cloak cooldown time increased from [3] to [3.75]
Base cooldown increased from [10] to [12]

Carnage:
Cooldown decreased from [10] to [8]
Projectile speed increased from [2000] to [2500]
Instant damage percent increased from [0.75] to [1.0]

Incinerate:
Damage increased from [300] to [450]
Instant damage percent from [0.75] [1.25]
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [4300]

Cryo Blast:
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [4300]
Duration increased from [3] to [8]
Base damage taken bonus increased from [0] to [0.15]

Energy Drain:
Shields restored changed from [0.5] to [0.175]
Shields restored evolve changed from [0.5 to [0.175]

Shockwave:
Rank 6 Cooldown evolution changed from [0.4] to [1.15]
Lift duration increased from [2.5] to [3.75]
Range increased from [1000] to [1400]
Projectile speed increased from [1000] to [1400] not really sure if this is working
Number of pulses increased from [6] to [8]
Force increased from [600] to [1000] - overwritten by balance changes
Damage increased from [200] to [315] overwritten by balance changes
timebetweenimpacts decreased from [0.18] to [0.15] UNTESTED
Radius increased from [200] to [260] UNTESTED

Sticky Grenades:
Damage increased from [750] to [1250]
Radius decreased from [200] to [250]

Tech Armor:
Radius increased from [300] to [550]
Damage Reduction increased from [0.25] to [0.35]

Fortification:
Base damage reduction increased from [0.15] to [0.25]

Sentry Turret:
Will nerf the cooldown to make it feel more impactful to use.
Damage increased by 12 times. (evolve_damagebonus = 7f)
Flamethrower does 3000 * (7/12) damage/cycle (damage increased from [55] to [83 * 7]
Rocket radius increased from [150] to [350] doesn't work t.t
Rocket force increased from [600~??] to [2000]
Rocket cooldown decreased from [4] to [3.75]
Rocket minimum range decreased from [1000] to [500]
Shock power "removed"
Evolve shieldbonus increased from [0.4] to [1]
Freeze chance increased from [0.5] to [100.0]


These aren't all the changes I'm going to make, and I also intend on rebalancing the weapons. As soon as I finish writing this paper I'll get started on the mod again. The platinum difficulty takes all of these changes and also increases enemy health by an average of 40% and enemy spawn counts by 150%.


Korolen? ^_^

This is looking pretty good, btw, and I look forward to the weapon changes. So many need buffs or changes.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
May 11 2012 00:38 GMT
#3267
Wooo multiplayer mods!
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
May 11 2012 01:11 GMT
#3268
It actually really takes away from the game that you all are so satisfied with the mediocore multiplayer that you are excited when they annouce multiplayer DLC's barely after launch (inlcuding day 1 dlc's) but are fine with the single player (which if you remember is what mass effect 3 was about)... Maybe if we all stopped purchasing alright... not good or great dlc then they'd stop spoon feeding us this shit kool-aid and give some quality content... For instance a different ending then the single ending we all got.
FoTG fighting!
GeorgeH
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom190 Posts
May 11 2012 09:21 GMT
#3269
On May 11 2012 09:01 Lokrium wrote:
I balanced ALL THE THINGS:
+ Show Spoiler +

Combos:
Reduced Biotic Explosion damage from [100-250] to [75-190].
Unlocked Fire & Ice Explosions
Fire Explosion damage over time reduced from [20-50] to [0.01-0.01] UNTESTED
Fire Explosion radius decreased from [300-600] to [0.01-0.01] UNTESTED
Fire Explosion maxtargets decreased from [4] to [1] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion damage increased from [50-125] to [100-175] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion radius increased from [300-500] to [300-700] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion freeze duration increased from [2-5] to [4-10] UNTESTED

Singularity:
Radius increased from [100] to [150]
Max targets increased from [2] to [3]
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [5300]

Cloak:
Minimum cloak cooldown time increased from [3] to [3.75]
Base cooldown increased from [10] to [12]

Carnage:
Cooldown decreased from [10] to [8]
Projectile speed increased from [2000] to [2500]
Instant damage percent increased from [0.75] to [1.0]

Incinerate:
Damage increased from [300] to [450]
Instant damage percent from [0.75] [1.25]
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [4300]

Cryo Blast:
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [4300]
Duration increased from [3] to [8]
Base damage taken bonus increased from [0] to [0.15]

Energy Drain:
Shields restored changed from [0.5] to [0.175]
Shields restored evolve changed from [0.5 to [0.175]

Shockwave:
Rank 6 Cooldown evolution changed from [0.4] to [1.15]
Lift duration increased from [2.5] to [3.75]
Range increased from [1000] to [1400]
Projectile speed increased from [1000] to [1400] not really sure if this is working
Number of pulses increased from [6] to [8]
Force increased from [600] to [1000] - overwritten by balance changes
Damage increased from [200] to [315] overwritten by balance changes
timebetweenimpacts decreased from [0.18] to [0.15] UNTESTED
Radius increased from [200] to [260] UNTESTED

Sticky Grenades:
Damage increased from [750] to [1250]
Radius decreased from [200] to [250]

Tech Armor:
Radius increased from [300] to [550]
Damage Reduction increased from [0.25] to [0.35]

Fortification:
Base damage reduction increased from [0.15] to [0.25]

Sentry Turret:
Will nerf the cooldown to make it feel more impactful to use.
Damage increased by 12 times. (evolve_damagebonus = 7f)
Flamethrower does 3000 * (7/12) damage/cycle (damage increased from [55] to [83 * 7]
Rocket radius increased from [150] to [350] doesn't work t.t
Rocket force increased from [600~??] to [2000]
Rocket cooldown decreased from [4] to [3.75]
Rocket minimum range decreased from [1000] to [500]
Shock power "removed"
Evolve shieldbonus increased from [0.4] to [1]
Freeze chance increased from [0.5] to [100.0]


These aren't all the changes I'm going to make, and I also intend on rebalancing the weapons. As soon as I finish writing this paper I'll get started on the mod again. The platinum difficulty takes all of these changes and also increases enemy health by an average of 40% and enemy spawn counts by 150%.


I suspect this is unlikely, but, is it possible to change the way the cover system behaves when using weapons that can be charged up? For example, as awkward as the Kishock Harpoon Gun is, I think it's quite fun to use. However, when using a chargable weapon from cover you remain exposed when charging the weapon until you discharge. I think it would be preferable if you could charge the weapon and still remain in cover, and only expose yourself when aiming.

I hope that makes sense.
Lokrium
Profile Joined March 2011
United States131 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 09:46:53
May 11 2012 09:45 GMT
#3270
On May 11 2012 18:21 GeorgeH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 09:01 Lokrium wrote:
I balanced ALL THE THINGS:
+ Show Spoiler +

Combos:
Reduced Biotic Explosion damage from [100-250] to [75-190].
Unlocked Fire & Ice Explosions
Fire Explosion damage over time reduced from [20-50] to [0.01-0.01] UNTESTED
Fire Explosion radius decreased from [300-600] to [0.01-0.01] UNTESTED
Fire Explosion maxtargets decreased from [4] to [1] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion damage increased from [50-125] to [100-175] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion radius increased from [300-500] to [300-700] UNTESTED
Cryo Explosion freeze duration increased from [2-5] to [4-10] UNTESTED

Singularity:
Radius increased from [100] to [150]
Max targets increased from [2] to [3]
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [5300]

Cloak:
Minimum cloak cooldown time increased from [3] to [3.75]
Base cooldown increased from [10] to [12]

Carnage:
Cooldown decreased from [10] to [8]
Projectile speed increased from [2000] to [2500]
Instant damage percent increased from [0.75] to [1.0]

Incinerate:
Damage increased from [300] to [450]
Instant damage percent from [0.75] [1.25]
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [4300]

Cryo Blast:
Projectile speed increased from [3000] to [4300]
Duration increased from [3] to [8]
Base damage taken bonus increased from [0] to [0.15]

Energy Drain:
Shields restored changed from [0.5] to [0.175]
Shields restored evolve changed from [0.5 to [0.175]

Shockwave:
Rank 6 Cooldown evolution changed from [0.4] to [1.15]
Lift duration increased from [2.5] to [3.75]
Range increased from [1000] to [1400]
Projectile speed increased from [1000] to [1400] not really sure if this is working
Number of pulses increased from [6] to [8]
Force increased from [600] to [1000] - overwritten by balance changes
Damage increased from [200] to [315] overwritten by balance changes
timebetweenimpacts decreased from [0.18] to [0.15] UNTESTED
Radius increased from [200] to [260] UNTESTED

Sticky Grenades:
Damage increased from [750] to [1250]
Radius decreased from [200] to [250]

Tech Armor:
Radius increased from [300] to [550]
Damage Reduction increased from [0.25] to [0.35]

Fortification:
Base damage reduction increased from [0.15] to [0.25]

Sentry Turret:
Will nerf the cooldown to make it feel more impactful to use.
Damage increased by 12 times. (evolve_damagebonus = 7f)
Flamethrower does 3000 * (7/12) damage/cycle (damage increased from [55] to [83 * 7]
Rocket radius increased from [150] to [350] doesn't work t.t
Rocket force increased from [600~??] to [2000]
Rocket cooldown decreased from [4] to [3.75]
Rocket minimum range decreased from [1000] to [500]
Shock power "removed"
Evolve shieldbonus increased from [0.4] to [1]
Freeze chance increased from [0.5] to [100.0]


These aren't all the changes I'm going to make, and I also intend on rebalancing the weapons. As soon as I finish writing this paper I'll get started on the mod again. The platinum difficulty takes all of these changes and also increases enemy health by an average of 40% and enemy spawn counts by 150%.


I suspect this is unlikely, but, is it possible to change the way the cover system behaves when using weapons that can be charged up? For example, as awkward as the Kishock Harpoon Gun is, I think it's quite fun to use. However, when using a chargable weapon from cover you remain exposed when charging the weapon until you discharge. I think it would be preferable if you could charge the weapon and still remain in cover, and only expose yourself when aiming.

I hope that makes sense.


I suspect that's theoretically possible by someone more technically skilled than I. I really don't know where I'd even begin to look, though - I did a cursory check through the coalesced file, but the coalesced is mostly just numbers. I can't change any of the core gameplay. In this case, I can change the charge-up time for, say, the Arc Pistol, but I have no idea how I'd let you charge it behind cover. Also, the DLC is stored somewhere else. Until I figure it out, I can't change anything related to the DLC - it's just not in the coalesced file.
Tula
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1544 Posts
May 11 2012 10:50 GMT
#3271
On May 11 2012 10:11 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
It actually really takes away from the game that you all are so satisfied with the mediocore multiplayer that you are excited when they annouce multiplayer DLC's barely after launch (inlcuding day 1 dlc's) but are fine with the single player (which if you remember is what mass effect 3 was about)... Maybe if we all stopped purchasing alright... not good or great dlc then they'd stop spoon feeding us this shit kool-aid and give some quality content... For instance a different ending then the single ending we all got.


Personally I enjoy the multiplayer parts, it's obvious they did not invest too much time into it, but it is fun and gives me a way to pass the time. Of course I'd enjoy it more if I could play the campaign as Co-op, but sadly that is not a feature Bioware focused on.

Yes the ending disappointed me, but the game itself is still the best of the triology, and I've loved every single minute I spent in this universe.

Also note that so far every DLC (except the Day 1 collectors edition DLC, which i still haven't bought simply because i don't buy stuff like that) has been free, so of course we are excited about it.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
May 17 2012 17:54 GMT
#3272
MP is fun
Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
May 17 2012 19:50 GMT
#3273
On May 11 2012 19:50 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 10:11 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
It actually really takes away from the game that you all are so satisfied with the mediocore multiplayer that you are excited when they annouce multiplayer DLC's barely after launch (inlcuding day 1 dlc's) but are fine with the single player (which if you remember is what mass effect 3 was about)... Maybe if we all stopped purchasing alright... not good or great dlc then they'd stop spoon feeding us this shit kool-aid and give some quality content... For instance a different ending then the single ending we all got.


Personally I enjoy the multiplayer parts, it's obvious they did not invest too much time into it, but it is fun and gives me a way to pass the time. Of course I'd enjoy it more if I could play the campaign as Co-op, but sadly that is not a feature Bioware focused on.

Yes the ending disappointed me, but the game itself is still the best of the triology, and I've loved every single minute I spent in this universe.

Also note that so far every DLC (except the Day 1 collectors edition DLC, which i still haven't bought simply because i don't buy stuff like that) has been free, so of course we are excited about it.

I dunno, I played through all 3 games in order, and I enjoyed myself in ME2 the most. Something about character development really got me into it the 2nd and 3rd times I played through. ME3 feels unfinished, story rushed, not very polished, etc. I think they wanted to get it out in 2011 but had to delay it so it wasn't complete crap, but it's still not as good/polished as ME2 or ME1.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
DarkSpectre
Profile Joined December 2011
121 Posts
May 30 2012 17:45 GMT
#3274
I finally beat ME3 last night. Wow, now I understand why a lot of people hate ME3 endings. They all suck. WTF WERE THEY SMOKING WHEN THEY WROTE THE ENDINGS?

I will never buy another Bioware game ever again. I have invested emotionally in ME series. What do I get in the end? A Big FU.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
May 30 2012 18:04 GMT
#3275
On May 31 2012 02:45 DarkSpectre wrote:
I finally beat ME3 last night. Wow, now I understand why a lot of people hate ME3 endings. They all suck. WTF WERE THEY SMOKING WHEN THEY WROTE THE ENDINGS?

I will never buy another Bioware game ever again. I have invested emotionally in ME series. What do I get in the end? A Big FU.




I wouldn't go as far as never buying another one of there games. Like you I got really into the ME series, and was kinda like that ending? wtf? They claim they are gonna fix it. But I personally hope they come out with a ME 4 that gets back to the roots of ME 2
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
May 30 2012 18:30 GMT
#3276
On May 31 2012 03:04 HeeroFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 02:45 DarkSpectre wrote:
I finally beat ME3 last night. Wow, now I understand why a lot of people hate ME3 endings. They all suck. WTF WERE THEY SMOKING WHEN THEY WROTE THE ENDINGS?

I will never buy another Bioware game ever again. I have invested emotionally in ME series. What do I get in the end? A Big FU.




I wouldn't go as far as never buying another one of there games. Like you I got really into the ME series, and was kinda like that ending? wtf? They claim they are gonna fix it. But I personally hope they come out with a ME 4 that gets back to the roots of ME 2


Their "fixing it", is just them adding a few more cutscenes to explain some of the things that happen in the end. They're not actually going to change anything.

Which is a shame.
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
May 30 2012 18:56 GMT
#3277
On May 31 2012 03:30 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 03:04 HeeroFX wrote:
On May 31 2012 02:45 DarkSpectre wrote:
I finally beat ME3 last night. Wow, now I understand why a lot of people hate ME3 endings. They all suck. WTF WERE THEY SMOKING WHEN THEY WROTE THE ENDINGS?

I will never buy another Bioware game ever again. I have invested emotionally in ME series. What do I get in the end? A Big FU.




I wouldn't go as far as never buying another one of there games. Like you I got really into the ME series, and was kinda like that ending? wtf? They claim they are gonna fix it. But I personally hope they come out with a ME 4 that gets back to the roots of ME 2


Their "fixing it", is just them adding a few more cutscenes to explain some of the things that happen in the end. They're not actually going to change anything.

Which is a shame.


You have to understand that in Bioware's eyes what caused the uproar with the ending wasn't failure, it was brilliance. They believe their move was so gutsy and inspired that it was only natural that the unenlightened masses reject it, being as they are raised on convenient tropes and harmless narratives. Add to that the slew of supposed critics and connoisseurs who hold up the ending to Bioware's own marketing statements and you have a recipe for their current embarrassment.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
May 30 2012 19:13 GMT
#3278
I loathed the ending when I played it, but a few months after I finished it, I started reading up on the indoctrination theory, and watching videos of it online, that it absolutely makes sense. There are way too many indications that show it - if its writing was as crappy, and if the ending was as rushed as 'fans' are saying it is - why would they include all those little details that keep on hinting towards indoctrination? Bioware's forte in RPGs has always been the minute details, and the stuff you see that hints towards indoctrination is at the end of the day, unequivocal, because these details wouldn't have been included if the ending was as crap as everyone says it is. Things such as Shepard holding a bleeding wound in the exact same place where he shot Anderson, or the little boy never being noticed by anyone else rather than Shepard, the child himself is an obvious manifestation in Shepard's mind, if you think about it.

And even so, I'm ready to give Bioware the benefit of the doubt, because their games have always been excellent. People who jump on the bandwagon saying that Dragon Age 2 was crap mostly did not play it to its entirety - the game has better storytelling than the first game - sure, the gameplay changes, and repetitive environments were for the worst, but the game was still extremely enjoyable.

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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-30 19:35:56
May 30 2012 19:32 GMT
#3279
Indoc theory has been proven false. Bioware's statements on them standing by the ending is proof. All the clues & hints are either coincidental or down to people reading too much into things. And I doubt they will use any of it since all they're doing is 'clarifying & explaining' the current shitfest.

Just go through all of Bioware's statements released after the whole furore started and you'll see.
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AgentChaos
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom4569 Posts
May 30 2012 19:37 GMT
#3280
On May 31 2012 04:32 Telcontar wrote:
Indoc theory has been proven false. Bioware's statements on them standing by the ending is proof. All the clues & hints are either coincidental or down to people reading too much into things. And I doubt they will use any of it since all they're doing is 'clarifying & explaining' the current shitfest.

Just go through all of Bioware's statements released after the whole furore started and you'll see.

can you get me bioware's statements on the ending saying that indoctronate theory is wrong? thanks
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