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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 19 2011 02:19 GMT
#41
Thank god they're going back to the roots. I was fucking disgusted with all the gunpowder garbage they were putting out. The entire point of Total War was medieval combat. MELEE and arrows. Not fucking muskets and crap. I hate that era of military history. Glad to know a lot of other people felt the same way and CA started crying when their sales went way down. Bastards.

Too bad they don't have the balls to do a Three Kingdoms: Total War, which is long past due. They've already rehashed Europe and the Middle East a million times over, and now they're rehashing Japan too, yet they've completely ignored the Asian mainland which is such an obvious, obvious hole with so much history, different kingdoms, and military units, it's just embarrassing in my opinion. Where is my Three Kingdoms: Total War!? And wth did they pick a fob ass voice to narrate? Romans supposedly speak with an English accent, but I guess Asians get a fob. The racist stereotyping of CA disgusts me for how much they claim to study history and try to get things accurate. Spit in their faces!

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Barca
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States418 Posts
February 19 2011 02:26 GMT
#42
This game looks hella dope, definitely gonna sack Tokyo fo' days
- I hate threads that end with "Thoughts?" -
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
February 19 2011 02:58 GMT
#43
On February 19 2011 11:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Thank god they're going back to the roots. I was fucking disgusted with all the gunpowder garbage they were putting out. The entire point of Total War was medieval combat. MELEE and arrows. Not fucking muskets and crap. I hate that era of military history. Glad to know a lot of other people felt the same way and CA started crying when their sales went way down. Bastards.

Too bad they don't have the balls to do a Three Kingdoms: Total War, which is long past due. They've already rehashed Europe and the Middle East a million times over, and now they're rehashing Japan too, yet they've completely ignored the Asian mainland which is such an obvious, obvious hole with so much history, different kingdoms, and military units, it's just embarrassing in my opinion. Where is my Three Kingdoms: Total War!? And wth did they pick a fob ass voice to narrate? Romans supposedly speak with an English accent, but I guess Asians get a fob. The racist stereotyping of CA disgusts me for how much they claim to study history and try to get things accurate. Spit in their faces!



lol.... that is some serious hate. You should probably relax and enjoy life a little more and worry less about the little things.


On the other hand, I agree three kingdoms would be fucking epic.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 19 2011 03:22 GMT
#44
On February 19 2011 11:58 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 11:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Thank god they're going back to the roots. I was fucking disgusted with all the gunpowder garbage they were putting out. The entire point of Total War was medieval combat. MELEE and arrows. Not fucking muskets and crap. I hate that era of military history. Glad to know a lot of other people felt the same way and CA started crying when their sales went way down. Bastards.

Too bad they don't have the balls to do a Three Kingdoms: Total War, which is long past due. They've already rehashed Europe and the Middle East a million times over, and now they're rehashing Japan too, yet they've completely ignored the Asian mainland which is such an obvious, obvious hole with so much history, different kingdoms, and military units, it's just embarrassing in my opinion. Where is my Three Kingdoms: Total War!? And wth did they pick a fob ass voice to narrate? Romans supposedly speak with an English accent, but I guess Asians get a fob. The racist stereotyping of CA disgusts me for how much they claim to study history and try to get things accurate. Spit in their faces!



lol.... that is some serious hate. You should probably relax and enjoy life a little more and worry less about the little things.


On the other hand, I agree three kingdoms would be fucking epic.


Oh the hate is strong within me. It's a love-hate thing though. I love the Total War series. I hate that I've waited so many years and each time I've been slapped in the face with a dumber and dumber game. It was bad enough when they did Empire Total War, but then they followed it up with Napoleon, and I was about ready to puke. I absolutely detest the Colonial period and gunpowder warfare in general.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 04:11:12
February 19 2011 04:00 GMT
#45
On February 19 2011 12:22 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 11:58 Darpa wrote:
On February 19 2011 11:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Thank god they're going back to the roots. I was fucking disgusted with all the gunpowder garbage they were putting out. The entire point of Total War was medieval combat. MELEE and arrows. Not fucking muskets and crap. I hate that era of military history. Glad to know a lot of other people felt the same way and CA started crying when their sales went way down. Bastards.

Too bad they don't have the balls to do a Three Kingdoms: Total War, which is long past due. They've already rehashed Europe and the Middle East a million times over, and now they're rehashing Japan too, yet they've completely ignored the Asian mainland which is such an obvious, obvious hole with so much history, different kingdoms, and military units, it's just embarrassing in my opinion. Where is my Three Kingdoms: Total War!? And wth did they pick a fob ass voice to narrate? Romans supposedly speak with an English accent, but I guess Asians get a fob. The racist stereotyping of CA disgusts me for how much they claim to study history and try to get things accurate. Spit in their faces!



lol.... that is some serious hate. You should probably relax and enjoy life a little more and worry less about the little things.


On the other hand, I agree three kingdoms would be fucking epic.


Oh the hate is strong within me. It's a love-hate thing though. I love the Total War series. I hate that I've waited so many years and each time I've been slapped in the face with a dumber and dumber game. It was bad enough when they did Empire Total War, but then they followed it up with Napoleon, and I was about ready to puke. I absolutely detest the Colonial period and gunpowder warfare in general.


eh, Empire wasn't too bad

it wasn't anything compared to how good ME2 was, or especially Rome (my first and favorite)

but I didn't even bother trying Napoleon
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 04:58:19
February 19 2011 04:56 GMT
#46
On February 19 2011 11:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Thank god they're going back to the roots. I was fucking disgusted with all the gunpowder garbage they were putting out. The entire point of Total War was medieval combat. MELEE and arrows. Not fucking muskets and crap. I hate that era of military history. Glad to know a lot of other people felt the same way and CA started crying when their sales went way down. Bastards.

Too bad they don't have the balls to do a Three Kingdoms: Total War, which is long past due. They've already rehashed Europe and the Middle East a million times over, and now they're rehashing Japan too, yet they've completely ignored the Asian mainland which is such an obvious, obvious hole with so much history, different kingdoms, and military units, it's just embarrassing in my opinion. Where is my Three Kingdoms: Total War!? And wth did they pick a fob ass voice to narrate? Romans supposedly speak with an English accent, but I guess Asians get a fob. The racist stereotyping of CA disgusts me for how much they claim to study history and try to get things accurate. Spit in their faces!


Wow... although i do agree empire stunk. Napoleonic warfare is my favorite time period for warfare historically, but it just didn't make a good game. I didn't hate it that much though...

Anywhoo, from all the videos i've seen it really looks like they took a different approach graphically that i like. It seems more artistic than realistic in alot of ways.

Turenne
Profile Joined January 2011
331 Posts
February 19 2011 14:22 GMT
#47
Looks good, although I'm more interested in mods now, particularly after the shitty Empire game. Anyone here play the LOTR mod for Kingdoms, Third Age?
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
February 19 2011 14:30 GMT
#48
On February 19 2011 13:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 12:22 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On February 19 2011 11:58 Darpa wrote:
On February 19 2011 11:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Thank god they're going back to the roots. I was fucking disgusted with all the gunpowder garbage they were putting out. The entire point of Total War was medieval combat. MELEE and arrows. Not fucking muskets and crap. I hate that era of military history. Glad to know a lot of other people felt the same way and CA started crying when their sales went way down. Bastards.

Too bad they don't have the balls to do a Three Kingdoms: Total War, which is long past due. They've already rehashed Europe and the Middle East a million times over, and now they're rehashing Japan too, yet they've completely ignored the Asian mainland which is such an obvious, obvious hole with so much history, different kingdoms, and military units, it's just embarrassing in my opinion. Where is my Three Kingdoms: Total War!? And wth did they pick a fob ass voice to narrate? Romans supposedly speak with an English accent, but I guess Asians get a fob. The racist stereotyping of CA disgusts me for how much they claim to study history and try to get things accurate. Spit in their faces!



lol.... that is some serious hate. You should probably relax and enjoy life a little more and worry less about the little things.


On the other hand, I agree three kingdoms would be fucking epic.


Oh the hate is strong within me. It's a love-hate thing though. I love the Total War series. I hate that I've waited so many years and each time I've been slapped in the face with a dumber and dumber game. It was bad enough when they did Empire Total War, but then they followed it up with Napoleon, and I was about ready to puke. I absolutely detest the Colonial period and gunpowder warfare in general.


eh, Empire wasn't too bad

it wasn't anything compared to how good ME2 was, or especially Rome (my first and favorite)

but I didn't even bother trying Napoleon

Empire was pure fucking garbage at release. It wasn't the gameplay or the era though, but the bugs and crashes. Once patched it was pretty good, I'll agree. Napoleon is essentially what Empire should have been, really liked it for a while but a game with only five nations that matter and a campaign that scripted.. eh, got tired of it quickly. R:TW>M2:TW>Napoleon>Empire in my opinion, never played S:TW and M:TW though.

Looking forward to Shogun, R:TW which I probably spent most time on feels too outdated for me today, it'll be nice to play with the improved interface of newer total wars and use swords and arrows rather than gunpowder.

March is a good month, GSL with new maps, new Total War, Dragon Age 2... Arghghghg why is it still shitty and cold as hell February?
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
February 19 2011 14:31 GMT
#49
On February 19 2011 11:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Thank god they're going back to the roots. I was fucking disgusted with all the gunpowder garbage they were putting out.

You do know that Shogun: Total War had gunpowder units(2) as well?
Babaganoush
Profile Joined November 2010
United States626 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 14:44:15
February 19 2011 14:39 GMT
#50
I'm going to wait on this. My first entry into the Total War series was when I tried out Napoleon: Total War. I hated it. Strategy was nice and all but the AI was so stupid.

"oh hey, the cavalry is charging us from a distance, let's SLOWLY turn around and THEN change to square formations."

Path finding was ridiculous for cavalry too - I would tell my men to charge at a line and they go like 3993384 kilometers north then head for the unit I commanded them to attack.

I hope Shogun improves the AI and such...

Edit: Oh and my favorite

300 units vs 20 of theirs? Auto-resolve time.

What? I lost the battle and all my men died?
Stick a fork in those buns.
shineq
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1453 Posts
February 19 2011 14:40 GMT
#51
Shogun: Total War was one of the games I loved to play as a child and after I read about Shogun 2, I got totally excited about it. It sounds like it's going to be awesome. I haven't really played any other Total War games and don't know much about them, but I am not a huge fan of the 3D world map setup, it kind of felt more realistic with moving the pawns around the map, that you could actually see that it was set out on a table. No biggie though, I still cannot wait for it to be released and me and my friend are definitely going to check out the multiplayer campaign, sounds great as well. Demo is coming on the 22nd February on Steam, can't wait!
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid`NonY, "david some do it T>T" - SlayerSBoxeR || Twitter: http://twtter.com/shineqGAMING || http://twitch.tv/shineq
vyyye
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden3917 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 15:26:10
February 19 2011 14:44 GMT
#52
On February 19 2011 23:39 Babaganoush wrote:
I'm going to wait on this. My first entry into the Total War series was when I tried out Napoleon: Total War. I hated it. Strategy was nice and all but the AI was so stupid.

"oh hey, the cavalry is charging us from a distance, let's SLOWLY turn around and THEN change to square formations."

Path finding was ridiculous for cavalry too - I would tell my men to charge at a line and they go like 3993384 kilometers north then head for the unit I commanded them to attack.

I hope Shogun improves the AI and such...

According to the PC Gamer hands on it's vastly improved, and Creative Assembly said that the AI has been a priority. As for the latter, they have been saying that every TW game and it has always been shitty until modders made it.. well, made it okay. I'm hoping it'll be good.

But the pathfinding was fine for cav in Napoleon as far as I can remember? It was horrible in M:TW and R:TW but I can't remember having any issues in N:TW, hm, might have been blinded by the fact that I was used to something much shittier.

Also, demo out Feb 22
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/02/16/shogun-2-demo-out-next-week/
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
February 19 2011 17:06 GMT
#53
Appearantly they want the focus to be on 'accessibility'. Every time I heard that word used to describe an upcoming game, it really ment the game would be easy, simplistic and without any depth. I really hope this will the exception to that rule, but I doubt it given how bad Empire and Napoleon were. The other problem is that this game will likely be much harder to mod then Rome and MTW2 which were improved 10x by the modding community.

Also, am I the only one that thinks that Medival: Total War 1 was the best one in the series (at least out of the box). That game seemed to have such incredible depth. Massive tech-trees, many nations with completely different army compostions and tons of diplomatic options...aaahh..good old times
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StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 20 2011 01:40 GMT
#54
On February 19 2011 23:31 Lucumo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 11:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Thank god they're going back to the roots. I was fucking disgusted with all the gunpowder garbage they were putting out.

You do know that Shogun: Total War had gunpowder units(2) as well?


Don't speak rubbish. Those were only good for giving xp to my warrior monks. I wasn't forced to use them in my armies at all. Their only purpose was to be there so I could cut them down and take satisfaction in killing filthy, dishonorable gun-wielding mongrel cowards.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
February 20 2011 02:41 GMT
#55
yay, it looks like battles finally look like battle again.

i was disgusted by Empire and Medieval 2s awkward shuffling of 90% of the units, watching about 5 units / formation actually fight.
puppykiller
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States3137 Posts
February 20 2011 02:45 GMT
#56
its hard to like other rts's then sc as you always fell like their is nothing to click on but it is really fun to conquer the map in total war games
Why would I play sctoo when I can play BW?
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
February 20 2011 03:02 GMT
#57
Napolean was terrible, empire was better but rome total war and m2 is the best.
hiawatha
Profile Joined December 2010
United States120 Posts
February 20 2011 03:11 GMT
#58
I actually liked Empire. I thought it was a fun new take on the old RTW/MTW formula. By extension I didn't think Napoleon was that bad, either. Super excited for STW2 though
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
February 20 2011 03:52 GMT
#59
On February 20 2011 10:40 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 19 2011 23:31 Lucumo wrote:
On February 19 2011 11:19 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Thank god they're going back to the roots. I was fucking disgusted with all the gunpowder garbage they were putting out.

You do know that Shogun: Total War had gunpowder units(2) as well?


Don't speak rubbish. Those were only good for giving xp to my warrior monks. I wasn't forced to use them in my armies at all. Their only purpose was to be there so I could cut them down and take satisfaction in killing filthy, dishonorable gun-wielding mongrel cowards.

Doesn't change the fact that they were included as well.

I just hope the game will be good. The map is a big letdown, reminds me of Civilization. I'm with shineq in that regard.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
February 20 2011 04:15 GMT
#60
Oh man, my Dad + Shogun Total War (the original stupid) is madness, utter madness. Talk about beaten the game on expert with every clan (even Oda), in full Japanese (he's white, so am I).

I hope it doesn't become too cartoony and western (english-only) that it doesn't appeal to him ^^
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