EPTShogun: Total War 2 - Page 21
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GrackGyver
61 Posts
Edit: so I guess if you're happy with some traditional japanese music, some pretty underwhelming graphics and the obviously unfinished crash-prone game package, then this game is good. Personally I think I'll wait until it gets patched or modded quite a bit before I come back and spend some time on it. | ||
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Maggeus
France277 Posts
I'm not someone who looks at the graphics anyway, the design's more important in my eyes. As many of you, my main problem is the AI cheating, but I'm sure, as with all others TW games, mods will come out. Also thanks to the hype for this game. :D I kinda agree though that CA should really plan to change their policy of debugging the freakin game before it's out... | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On March 28 2011 02:05 Match wrote: The only problem I have with Shogun 2 is the AI cheating. It's really, really, really annoying. Every AI cheats to a certain degree unless its something simple like chess. | ||
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optical630
United Kingdom768 Posts
online play still popular too. | ||
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Tiegrr
United States607 Posts
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Zabimaru
United Kingdom132 Posts
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Tiegrr
United States607 Posts
On March 23 2011 09:34 curreh wrote: Oh and tiegrr, do you have any tips for winning disadvantaged battles? I won one decently before, was 900 v 1300 and I got attacked in the field, so I put all my army on a hill, with my archers at the front to shoot as the enemy charged up, and had a samurai hidden in the trees that flanked and broke a unit very well, that turned out okay! I lost 300 and the enemy lost 1100 ^_^ Ahhh I forgot I posted here.  Total War puts a big emphasis on positioning. Try and take down engagements as quickly as possible, and with the right units (swords vs infantry, yari vs cavalry, archers shooting infantry, you don't have to worry about naginatas as they do the same thing vs cavalry and infantry). If your archers get attacked, don't let them sit there and get destroyed. Reinforce them and move the archers back to allow them to do what they're supposed to: shoot arrows. Flanks have a huge impact on enemy morale as well. If you've got a unit in front engaging the enemy and you suddenly come in from the back, they'll be taking twice the amount of damage (surface area ) and will rout very quickly. Cavalry charges from the back are usually the best way to flank, but make sure you don't stay. Remember that your cavalry have a Charge Bonus, so double click in from the back, and get out once the charge finishes. Rinse and repeat. If you're HEAVILY outnumbered, try not to get into a Convex. Concaves are always better, meaning you're doing most of the attacking. Your units being in a Convex means they'll die much quicker and you might be surrounded when part of your wall collapses from routing. Try not to engage in the open, as you'll lose ALOT less men if you're near mountains or in a forest. If you can ambush or put your troops up against a mountain, they'll have less time to react or get hits in. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On March 27 2011 07:24 killanator wrote: Teamliquid.net is first place in clan competition! keep it up woot! how i get into this? I havent touched the multiplayer yet, still enjoying the campaigns. I am on my 4th..(?) one. I like to restart and try diff approaches/strategies to each campaign. N2m the one time where i accidentally got too powerful as the chosokabe be4 i was ready and had a group of 3 max armies (3 of my enemies allied up incl the shogunate) that took out my 3 individual max armies that i was using to conquer the map..and then my 5 vassals all turned against me and then 2 max armies landed on my island and killed my daimyo who was only bein defended by 4 groups of archers. Or when i was chosokabe and lost 3 max armies in ships ... cause i was landing them all in diff provinces... all my generals gone and i was like "eff this i quit" and started over lol BTW how do any of you get the blackship? The only time I killed it it was with 2 of my allies and all of our fleets grouped in 1 spot...and then my allie got control of it and used it to kill my fleet in the future -_-. I attacked it solo with 7-8 bow and 2-3 medium bunes and got roflstomped | ||
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unsmart
United States322 Posts
Join the Steam group, it's public so anyone can join. Then go to the clan page in game and join. I'm currently doing my best to bring us down, cause you know, I suck. I love the Avatar battles so far. You get a bit of the Warhammer paint jobs, some RPG leveling up with your avatar and vet groups, and I'm still at the point where I can unlock more units. So it feels like I'm actually doing something in each battle. Though they really need to get rid of the siege units, they have no place and only invite camping :/ In my Oda campaign I made the mistake of taking Kyoto because I could. I didn't know everyone would turn against me and my vassals. And so I wasn't prepared for a three front war. I love Oda though, cheap and better peasant units are so awesome. You never have to stop warring to build up infrastructure, because your units are so cheap. And your cheap units can do well enough against samurai. | ||
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Butcherski
Poland446 Posts
I got the the advanced battle tutorial and it just seems so slow ... the units move soooo slowly and then minute i speed up the battle my general was dead when some enemies were hidden in the little village. All the units look and move the same with the distinction of one little icon on their banners and when i finally got into the battle it seemed so bleh ... whats the appeal here ? that my archers take 20 min to kill on regiment of melee units ? I know that the turn based portion of the game is good but whats the point in playing this without real time battles ? I can boot up Civ4 wich is infinitely better in that regard. Can someone explain this game to me ? | ||
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
On March 26 2011 05:38 Patriot.dlk wrote: I have two daughters that I can't marry. I have unmarried generals but when I mark a daughter it says: "marriage requires an eligible daughter" I don't understand why? They are getting to 30+ in age No incest...? See if they're the same family. If you've adopted your generals, they're considered your sons. My 17 year old daiymo adopted a 35 year old general as his son. | ||
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Inkcrow
United Kingdom215 Posts
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
On March 28 2011 08:31 Butcherski wrote: Why cant i get into the total war series ?? I've tried playing almost all of them and supposedly some of them were great games but its just seem kinda ... meh ? I got the the advanced battle tutorial and it just seems so slow ... the units move soooo slowly and then minute i speed up the battle my general was dead when some enemies were hidden in the little village. All the units look and move the same with the distinction of one little icon on their banners and when i finally got into the battle it seemed so bleh ... whats the appeal here ? that my archers take 20 min to kill on regiment of melee units ? I know that the turn based portion of the game is good but whats the point in playing this without real time battles ? I can boot up Civ4 wich is infinitely better in that regard. Can someone explain this game to me ? The general isn't a fighting unit (for the most part). the appeal is the immerse campaign and how what you do early game affects you late game. Diplomacy, alliances, backstabs. All fun stuff  | ||
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TimWeer
Netherlands65 Posts
On March 28 2011 07:25 mnofstl007 wrote: BTW how do any of you get the blackship? The only time I killed it it was with 2 of my allies and all of our fleets grouped in 1 spot...and then my allie got control of it and used it to kill my fleet in the future -_-. I attacked it solo with 7-8 bow and 2-3 medium bunes and got roflstomped Try to engage when it almost leaves the map. Most of the time it's severly damaged from other attacks. I got it this way with a single medium bune and a single trade ship... it only had 1 cannon remaining. But now repaired it can take on an entire fleet and just roflstomps 1 ship per salvo :D | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 28 2011 02:03 Patriot.dlk wrote: Make sure to get as many generals as possible, having armies with no general fight and win can lead the possibility to promote a general. Make sure to have only one general in each army, even if that general walks right next to another force. This way they all level up. It's crucial to get fast moment speed so you are flexible. I have the same experience with everyone attacking me so I tried getting kyoto fast and that helped out. Everyone declared war on me but at least I had the + things from being shogun to help me out Ah, I do have generals though. To be more specific, I had 4 armies marching around, and my generals were all 4-6 stars. I was playing Date, short campaign on normal. Besides Kyoto and Miyagi, I held every province that I needed to win, and it was only 1663. The only reason I didn't take Miyagi yet, was because it belonged to be my one and only ally, and I was being nice... I guess I could have taken Kyoto if I focus all of my armies on it, but the main issue is just that my Ashigaru armies die quicker than I can replenish them when everyone starts to attack me, as my main training hubs are usually quite some distant away due to my extremely fast expansion. Basically the other clans would start invading me from multiple locations and I just cant really stop them due to the issues mentioned above. I guess the only way to do it is just to take Miyagi early, then hold just enough before realm divide, macro out some more and take Kyoto in a flash. Should still be able to do it before 1570 I think. | ||
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nitdkim
1264 Posts
On March 28 2011 08:49 Fishball wrote: Ah, I do have generals though. To be more specific, I had 4 armies marching around, and my generals were all 4-6 stars. I was playing Date, short campaign on normal. Besides Kyoto and Miyagi, I held every province that I needed to win, and it was only 1663. The only reason I didn't take Miyagi yet, was because it belonged to be my one and only ally, and I was being nice... I guess I could have taken Kyoto if I focus all of my armies on it, but the main issue is just that my Ashigaru armies die quicker than I can replenish them when everyone starts to attack me, as my main training hubs are usually quite some distant away due to my extremely fast expansion. Basically the other clans would start invading me from multiple locations and I just cant really stop them due to the issues mentioned above. I guess the only way to do it is just to take Miyagi early, then hold just enough before realm divide, macro out some more and take Kyoto in a flash. Should still be able to do it before 1570 I think. You have to hold kyoto for 1 year to be claimed the New Shogun. So you'll have to do it before 1569 or something. | ||
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Fishball
Canada4788 Posts
On March 28 2011 09:00 nitdkim wrote: You have to hold kyoto for 1 year to be claimed the New Shogun. So you'll have to do it before 1569 or something. Yeah I know. Short campaign is before 1580, long is 1600. I was just listing the year as an indicator to how fast I'm rushing with those Ashigarus. | ||
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Serpico
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DarkwindHK
Hong Kong343 Posts
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