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Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
October 31 2010 04:05 GMT
#201
I just posted about planescape torment in the childhood defining video game thread. Then I click on this thread and bam, such a coincidence. I can't believe this game isn't bigger than it is. Critics loved it. It just never hit sales wise (probably due to it's ugly box). That said it is a much better game than baldurs gate 2. The only thing BG2 has over it is an improved engine. Planescape has a far better story.
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toadstool
Profile Joined May 2006
Australia421 Posts
October 31 2010 04:08 GMT
#202
Planescape Torment is probably the most epic game story-wise for me. Awesome game, it was like reading through a whole book in terms of story. Definitely one of the most under rated games ever.

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Ssin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States88 Posts
October 31 2010 04:19 GMT
#203
Some great games referenced here. Most definitely agree with Legacy of Kain series (despite it running for many years), Final Fantasy Tactics (political espionage in a story!? Hells yes). Half-Life as well has a pretty decent story, although at times it doesn't seem completely fleshed out.

One to add here is the Myth series (The Fallen Lords and Soulblighter). Pretty decent story-telling was done, and it fit with the whole atmosphere the game portrayed.

Some of the games I must admit I never actually had a chance to play. I might have to go bargain-browsing and pick up Planescape: Torment and play it on y'alls recommendation.
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 31 2010 04:24 GMT
#204
FF7 was alright. I played it before I realized that plot enhancing amnesia was a cliche. I also never really understood the idea of someone being in that much denial so it pretty much was a clusterfuck for me. I played it again recently and thought it was really fun. Story wise it was great, but not as wtfpwn as a lot of people say it is. Im also an asshole and didnt give two shits about Aeris dying (i thought tifa was better), so maybe thats another reason.

I also thought MGS2 was pretty damn good. Again though, it was a clusterfuck. I had to play it twice to really get what was going on. Not nearly as bad as a lot of people made it out to be.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 31 2010 04:44 GMT
#205
Wait, isn't this planescape: torment the one where you start as "Nameless"? Which one is it? I remember a couple of ones - there was one that didn't care what class you were, and you could even start out with a whole new custom made one... that was icewind dale... And then there was the one with the aforementioned nameless (not sure if it's planescape torment)... then of course, the baldur's gate series...


Uh, I wouldn't mind spoilers. But I thought planescape torment dealt with one guy in one city going deep into the dungeons or into various memories to find out why he could not die. Is this right? Can someone enlighten me?
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caneras
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
433 Posts
October 31 2010 04:54 GMT
#206
Here's my top 10:

1. Final Fantasy 6. I can't stress enough how amazing this story is. The balance between sub plots, back story, and the actual plot was perfect. Also, the amount of characters seems excessive to some, but each one is perfectly crafted and none of them are out of place, except maybe Umaro.
2. Bioshock. No explanation needed to anyone that's played it.
3. Dead Space. I loved the isolation elements. Being left to figure out the backstory on your own is nothing new, but it was executed so well in this game.
4. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. This was the last Zelda game where the story was almost entirely fresh and before most of the elements became too cliche. Plus the opening sequence is fantastic.
5. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (pretend that the sequels never existed). Great frame story and the narrative elements were good.
6. Lost Odyssey (The individual stories within the game). Kind of hard to explain this one to people that haven't played it. The player can unlock stories and events from the past by engaging with certain people at the right time. Each one serves as a great short story in and of itself, and there's about 3 dozen of them I think.
7. Legend of the Dragoon. Might receive some criticism from this pick, but I loved this game. This game was the alleged "Final Fantasy Killer" from Sony and was severely over-hyped, but the story delivered.
8. Tales of Symphonia. All of the Tales of the World games have a great story, but this is the one that kept me entirely engaged the longest. The voice acting had several good portrayals and never let me down.
9. Crisis Core: FFVII. I'm not as much of a fan of the entire story-arch of FFVII as I am of the early portions of it. The game serves as a prequel to the main game and touches on a wide variety of the minuscule details from the game. Plus the cinematic of the fight scene between Genesis, Angeal, and Sephiroth is one of, if not the, best I've ever seen in a video game.
10. Alien Hominid. I could've put any game from a huge selection for this spot. It's mostly to illustrate a point. Games like Alien Hominid display how the lack of a story can also be a strength. Sure, the game has a story, but the focus of the game is almost entirely the gameplay itself. There's too many games where the story drags the gameplay down too much and distracts the player. So essentially, sometimes it's better to just keep it simple.
k!llua
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia895 Posts
October 31 2010 05:10 GMT
#207
99% of all games have stories written on the same level as a crappy fan-fiction. call of duty 4? mass effect 2? final fantasy 7? jesus christ. (final fantasy 10 is worse, but let's not go there.)

devil may cry? what are you smoking. dragon age basically steals the plot from existing stories like lord of the rings. it's a good modern rpg, don't get me wrong, but it doesn't bring anything 'new' to the table by plugging into something audiences already know and love.

starcraft? sigh. i guess it's to be expected ... but really. let's be sensible here.

in fact, there should be a general rule: all bioware/square enix games are absurdly over-rated by their downer fanboys. always have been, always will. games themselves vary from fine to quite fantastic, but the stories have more holes in them than a 2 dollar hooker.

there are some good ones obviously, but best? the different strokes principle makes it impossible for it to be universal among everyone.

so i'm going to throw out something that hasn't been mentioned (i'm not reading all 11 pages).

i have no mouth and i must scream, based off the short story by harlan ellison. he did a lot of voice-over work for the game too; it's very hammy, but i thought it fitted quite well.

gotta keep in mind there's a massive difference between a good GAME and a good STORY.

other ones that are worth playing, that might have been mentioned but deserve +1 IMO anyway:

grim fandango
silent hill 2 (forget every other game in the series)
obviously planescape torment

and while i wouldn't call it a great 'story', one of the best examples of bringing the experience of an action film to a video game has been uncharted 2 - very impressive package, although if you're looking at just the story it's fairly cookie-cutter.

(but that's what's great about gaming - you can have loads of fun without a good story, or just get immersed in the story if the mechanics aren't up to scratch. kind of like starcraft 2. :D)
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k!llua
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Australia895 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-31 05:28:04
October 31 2010 05:26 GMT
#208
On October 31 2010 13:54 caneras wrote:
2. Bioshock. No explanation needed to anyone that's played it.
3. Dead Space. I loved the isolation elements. Being left to figure out the backstory on your own is nothing new, but it was executed so well in this game.


Tried System Shock 2? (I say that because both those games basically fed off what was one of the best games of the 90s.)
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Aus.Force
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1278 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-31 05:31:30
October 31 2010 05:26 GMT
#209
hmm, PST was very good.

i will also give +1 to FFX, moreso for the hidden meanings in the game as opposed to the character plots throughout. For character story i preffered FF7. Sephiroth was such an awesome villain.

i also evjoyed the Mafia 1 story a fair bit, but only cause those style of games interest me a fair bit.

And i know i will get flamed for this, but here we go. The entire storyline of Warcraft i thought was awesome. Although i can't stand to play wow anymore due to the repetitiveness of dailies, going through the story and taking my time on my first play through was so unbelievably good. Just the details and immersion, and side stories were so much fun to do. If you haven't actually read all the text's and books within WoW and usually just plow through the grind to 80, i would recommend going back and slowly levelling up doing as many quests and chains as possible. Its actually brilliantly put together.

edit: oh crap, how could i forget chronno trigger and also the lufia series. those games were so unbelievably good back in the early-mid 90's
"no need for cinema, just watch special taktiks" - white-ra
toadstool
Profile Joined May 2006
Australia421 Posts
October 31 2010 05:53 GMT
#210
On October 31 2010 13:44 orgolove wrote:
Wait, isn't this planescape: torment the one where you start as "Nameless"? Which one is it? I remember a couple of ones - there was one that didn't care what class you were, and you could even start out with a whole new custom made one... that was icewind dale... And then there was the one with the aforementioned nameless (not sure if it's planescape torment)... then of course, the baldur's gate series...


Uh, I wouldn't mind spoilers. But I thought planescape torment dealt with one guy in one city going deep into the dungeons or into various memories to find out why he could not die. Is this right? Can someone enlighten me?


Yes, you start off at a Morgue and the main character is named Nameless. The whole story revolves around Nameless trying to regain his memory, and finding out the big dark secret about his immortality.
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
October 31 2010 06:11 GMT
#211
Played a tonne of games and RPG's.
Torment definitely has the best story.
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yandere991
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia394 Posts
October 31 2010 06:12 GMT
#212
Xenogears hands down.
Now if square can remake it with a PROPER adaption of the 2nd disc this time then I can forgive them for butchering the franchise I loved and cared for so much.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
October 31 2010 06:19 GMT
#213
BATEN. KAITOS.

I can't believe it hasn't been mentioned in this thread (or at least, I didn't see it). Playing as Daimon to save the world, finding out that Kalas is the traitor after all (I don't think anybody saw that coming), Melodia taking over the evil god; then, playing Origins and finding out that Malpercio was just 5 kids seeking revenge (heavily alluded to in the first one) and Daimon, the protagonist in the first one, had spent 20 years helping create the "evil empire". Just awesome, crazy stuff.

The World Ends With You really made me look at life from a different perspective. Its storyline was perfect for the setting, but I wouldn't say it was the best.
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nhika
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11 Posts
October 31 2010 07:03 GMT
#214
On October 31 2010 13:54 caneras wrote:
Here's my top 10:


8. Tales of Symphonia. All of the Tales of the World games have a great story, but this is the one that kept me entirely engaged the longest. The voice acting had several good portrayals and never let me down.


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deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
October 31 2010 07:44 GMT
#215
I honestly cannot understand how people can hail Tales of Symphonia as having a good story, the characters were bland, and the setting and overall storyline were incredibly generic.

The combat was also repetitive and boring. I forced myself to finish about half of the game, then gave up because it simply was not worth my time.
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
October 31 2010 07:47 GMT
#216
Does anyone here remember the world in conflict story? I mean, it's kind of ridiculous in terms of military dynamics, but it was impressively well told in the limits of an RTS engine of that scale and it's really the only RTS story that has actually made me feel for the characters- Starcraft included.

also GOD DAMNIT BANNON.
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vileChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada525 Posts
October 31 2010 08:26 GMT
#217
Anyone play the marathon series by bungie? Being stuck on durandal trying to save it's ass then it tries to kill you. God I hated that two timing son of a bitch mothership
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Nazza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1654 Posts
October 31 2010 09:12 GMT
#218
The first game with an actual storyline that I ever played was Wing Commander IV: The price of freedom. It had Mark Hamill being the main protagonist, with a plot that was pretty generic.

System Shock 2 was a very immersive experience. The use of audio in that game was one of its strong points.

Half-life 2 was immersive as well, but it was more due to the gameplay and less due to the story.

Tales of Symphonia: when you are 14 years old, and the plot suddenly turns upside down, it becomes pretty revolutionary to you. It's like playing pokemon and finding out that professor oak is studying pokemon for evil purposes.
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Mass Effect was a pretty bland experience to be honest. I played it because I wanted to shoot space aliens, and because I hadn't shot space aliens in quite some time. There's a ancient race of beings bent to destroy the galaxy? Seriously? Tell me more!

FF6 had a pretty good story, not in the main storyline itself, but rather in the relationships with each of the characters.

I would say that playing a game for the experience of playing the game is far better than playing the game for its storyline, especially when it comes to RPGs. I dunno, after dabbling in mmorpgs for a while, whatever RPG I come across, I immediately start thinking "what is the point of meaningless battles that you can obviously finish with no skill".

I'm keen to try Dead Space and Metro 2033. I heard that they have a very immersive feel to them.
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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
October 31 2010 09:29 GMT
#219
Grim Fandango was the best story i seen in a game. I think everyone who ever played that game liked it. I never seen a bad word writen about it.
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potatomash3r
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia417 Posts
October 31 2010 10:11 GMT
#220
Story telling in video games has always been crap. But one of the games that drove me by the story alone was neverwinter nights.... although I never got to finish it due to a bug in the second act, I was 12 years old than and since then I never mustered the will to play it again. Other than that I think FF6 had an interesting story. Thing is, I can only remember myself thinking that the story was cool but trying to recall specific events or dialog escapes me.

I guess if were talking about new games I'd pick Uncharted 2, I thought the dialog and characters were fantastic. Though it did play out more like a block buster movie, which is why it was so captivating like a good book I had to 'read' the next chapter. I played that game three times in a row right after the previous playthrough.

Games kinda suck in the story aspect. But they do excel in atmosphere like bioshock, diablo, half life, etc.
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